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Old 10-28-2019, 10:29 PM   #961
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Honestly, even if it’s a work, Vince should announce that he is stepping away from creative. That alone would alter the perception of WWE.
He sort of did that with their last investor's meeting about how Heyman and Bischoff would be taking over more creative duties while he slowly moves to the side in order to focus on the XFL's revival.

Considering things got a lot worse since that announcement, investors probably would have very mixed feelings if he actually left creative either for real or as a work. Think they also still have very mixed feelings on the idea of Triple H and Steph running the company in the future.
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Old 10-29-2019, 12:57 AM   #962
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Old 10-29-2019, 05:29 PM   #963
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RAW:

Hr 1 - 2.33
Hr 2 - 2.15
Hr 3 - 1.93

Avg - 2.14 million viewers
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Rusev crushed - 3.2 million
Seth vs Rowan - 1.1 million
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Old 10-29-2019, 05:39 PM   #964
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Thanks. I’ve been hanging out for this number. It’s the good goss in wrestling right now.
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Old 10-29-2019, 06:52 PM   #965
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Not surprised at all the 3rd hour tanked that badly. Whoever came up with the idea for the divorce court segment probably should get removed from creative.

Also not surprised that segment has a huge lead in the Most Watched category since I'd assume the majority of those views are due to morbid curiosity and not because it was a great segment.
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Old 10-29-2019, 07:01 PM   #966
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As someone who has all but given up on even keeping track of Raw, I can honestly say that’s the only segment that might draw a curiosity view from me. Especially since “Seth vs. Rowan” sounds like a jobber match and I have no idea who Humberto is.
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Old 10-29-2019, 07:04 PM   #967
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It can not be overstated, as a lifelong wrestling fan, how sad it is to choose “just turn the TV off” over wrestling on a Monday night.
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Old 10-30-2019, 02:04 AM   #968
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It's not like WWE all of a sudden began producing boring tv recently.

For me I think it goes back to the big speech of "we are gonna listen and change", and the multiple times since then that they tried to put out how "here is the new change" with things like bringing in Heyman/Bischoff, changing channels, the draft, etc. Calling attention to the "bad product" but then continuing to deliver they same bad product just burns any benefit of the doubt they had.

You then combine that with them seemingly throwing in the towel and downgrading quality elsewhere (The shitty WWE Network upgrade, WWE 2K20) and it just proves they have no pride in their product and/or are to lazy to give a shit.

I honestly don't see them turning it around. It feels like they are just going through the motions. I think they will ride out their current TV deals, and maybe with a year or so left cash out to something like Disney who will just stick the tape library on ESPN+ and call it a day.
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Old 10-30-2019, 03:51 AM   #969
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It’s been a long time coming. The product has been conditioning is to expect the worst forever.
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Old 10-30-2019, 04:43 AM   #970
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It's not like WWE all of a sudden began producing boring tv recently.

For me I think it goes back to the big speech of "we are gonna listen and change", and the multiple times since then that they tried to put out how "here is the new change" with things like bringing in Heyman/Bischoff, changing channels, the draft, etc. Calling attention to the "bad product" but then continuing to deliver they same bad product just burns any benefit of the doubt they had.

You then combine that with them seemingly throwing in the towel and downgrading quality elsewhere (The shitty WWE Network upgrade, WWE 2K20) and it just proves they have no pride in their product and/or are to lazy to give a shit.

I honestly don't see them turning it around. It feels like they are just going through the motions. I think they will ride out their current TV deals, and maybe with a year or so left cash out to something like Disney who will just stick the tape library on ESPN+ and call it a day.
dude come on. It's been awful since mid-2001
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Old 10-30-2019, 04:52 AM   #971
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Yeah, I don’t even know what “we are gonna listen and change” speech xrod’s referring to but I’m sure it was way, way WAY past the point of rescue.
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Old 10-30-2019, 05:00 AM   #972
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As someone who has all but given up on even keeping track of Raw, I can honestly say that’s the only segment that might draw a curiosity view from me. Especially since “Seth vs. Rowan” sounds like a jobber match and I have no idea who Humberto is.
Rusev and Lana video currently has 4.4 million views on YouTube... second highest is the Rollins match at 1.4m and everything else is mostly far below 1m.

Everyone is shitting on the angle and it is not necessarily "good" but it was also the only interesting thing on Raw to me, like you said...
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Old 10-30-2019, 01:27 PM   #973
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dude come on. It's been awful since mid-2001
But they didn't come out and admit it and promise to be better until lately.


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Yeah, I donít even know what ďwe are gonna listen and changeĒ speech xrodís referring to but Iím sure it was way, way WAY past the point of rescue.
This bs where they didn't do anything but get worse.

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Shane McMahon came out in 2016 and said Raw sucked and he was going to bring change. Then...failed.

WWE might be the only TV show in the world that tells you it is awful. It’s so weird coming from a wrestling promotion.
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Live TV Ratings for AEW and NXT are in and as predicted, both took a big hit from the World Series, which had 23 million viewers.

AEW - 759k
18-34: .19
18-49: .33

NXT - 580k
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Only real bright side is AEW just missed out being in the Top 5 by 0.01 in the key demo ratings. Unlike last week, the boost they got from the 18-34 demo to offset losing older viewers didn't happen.

On the flip side, the boost NXT got this week from the 18-34 demo wasn't enough to cover the losses elsewhere. Also even with NXT getting a recap show as the lead-in, the fallout from Balor's heel turn, and hyping up Poppy making an appearance, it still was ineffective in regards to closing that big gap in the key demo.
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Live TV Ratings for Takeover: Smackdown are in:


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Hr 1 - 2.61
Hr 2 - 2.48

Avg - 2.55 million
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Smackdown is the most watched wrestling show of the week


Most Watched on YT:
Brock Lesnar quits - 2 million
HHH declares war - 567k
Shayna attacks Bayley - 524k
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Not only was it larger than last week's special occasion on FS1, which was expected, it also was larger than 2 weeks ago on FOX which is good for both WWE and FOX.

Mix of NXT surprises and general curiosity of how WWE was going to handle missing most of SD's roster ended up paying off very well. Also helped that it arguably was the best show SD has had since it moved to FOX.
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Better rating than I expected. Will be interesting to see if this segues into bigger things for NXT. As AEW is on the cool-off, they are now giving NXT its initial “main roster” push.
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RAW:



Hr 1 - 2.35
Hr 2 - 2.21
He 3 - 1.85

Avg - 2.13 million viewers
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Most Watched on YT:
Brock Attacks Dio - 1.7 million
HHH tempts Seth - 1.3 million
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RAW numbers barely being up overall and also dropping big for the 3rd hour is not that good of a sign for the level of interest people have towards this NXT invasion storyline. The bulk of NXT related stuff last night happened during the 3rd hour.

Smackdown had the benefit of both the surprise factor and missing the bulk of their roster which meant Creative had to do things different than usual and resulted in a pretty great show overall.
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I’d blame Seth for this. He’s been ratings poison lately.
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2.13 and not lower is NXT mitigating it.
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2.13 and not lower is NXT mitigating it.
While I respect you, I feel like you're essentially sucking HHH's and/or NXT's metaphorical dick. Even if it tastes "just as bad" or worse than any WWE/NXT "competition".

WWE's entire product is trash. WWE's entire product is going to be trash. At this point, nothing matters. Until Vince is dead and in the ground. The End.
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Old 11-06-2019, 11:01 AM   #985
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Considering Monday Night Football was up 40% from last week, I’m surprised the hit was so low.
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Old 11-06-2019, 07:36 PM   #986
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While I respect you, I feel like you're essentially sucking HHH's and/or NXT's metaphorical dick. Even if it tastes "just as bad" or worse than any WWE/NXT "competition".

WWE's entire product is trash. WWE's entire product is going to be trash. At this point, nothing matters. Until Vince is dead and in the ground. The End.
I wasnít being completely sincere, but I honestly would blame Seth and Rawís humdrum vibe before I laid the blame at new guys most people havenít seen before to even decide if they donít like them yet.

Iíve been hyper-critical of Triple H in the past. Iíve called the WWE/NXT machine out on what I thought it was: promises that they canít keep. That being said, theyíve been super-smart in their approach to AEW, which has been trash outside its main event scene, and I think theyíre going to kill off its buzz soon. I donít even watch NXT every week, so I wouldnít say itís a horse Iím backing. Itís more a prediction than a wish.
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Old 11-06-2019, 07:41 PM   #987
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Bet FOX and/or FS1 officials are not happy at all with how badly their new WWE Backstage show tanked.

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The official WWE Backstage premiere on FS1 drew just 49,000 viewers last night at 11pm ET, according to an update from Showbuzz Daily.

We noted before that viewership wasn't released because the show didn't make the Cable Top 150 list. Showbuzz Daily released an update and noted that Backstage also drew an 0.02 cable rating in the 18-49 demographic.
For some reference, the two preview shows drew 597,000 viewers on Oct. 15 and 426,000 viewers on October 25th.
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That’s an awful fucking rating. I mean, I didn’t expect it to do well. Actual wrestling shows are struggling with wrestling. It wouldn’t surprise me if this becomes a one-hour studio wrestling show at some point, or something. They’ll need to do something.
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Old 11-06-2019, 07:52 PM   #989
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Turn it into a show where the talent basically call their own shots. Like Talking Smack but with some wrestling too. This is where you can do things like Daniel Bryan vs. Drew Gulak without disrupting the flow of your SmackDown shows.
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I can't imagine they expected much for an 11:00pm cable show, but 49,000 is very low.
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This week's AEW vs NXT ended in favor of AEW but also had the smallest gap of just 9k viewers.

AEW got 822k viewers and a #8 ranking while NXT got 813k viewers and a #12 ranking.

18-49 demo ratings were 0.35 for AEW and 0.30 for NXT. AEW also held the advantage in the 18-34 demo while NXT held the advantage of 50+ demo.
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According to this week's Observer Newsletter, only reason AEW won this week was solely due to the starting gaps between both shows.

Also more signs pointing to the viewers AEW has been losing are not directly switching over to NXT based on the recent trends for quarter-hour breakdowns.

Also the over-run once again has been the biggest boost for NXT's numbers.

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The key take on the show is AEW’s numbers opened well ahead and mostly declined, even with a hot show. NXT opened behind, and largely grew. By saying that, you’d think it was an audience switch as the two hours were going. Yet, an examination of the quarters tells you that wasn’t the case. While the AEW audience was tuning out, for the most part they were not switching to NXT.

In the overall, AEW started with a solid lead, 976,000 for Pac vs. Trent vs. 819,000 for the OC Invasion and TV main event build and the beginning of Pete Dunne vs. Damien Priest.
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Smackdown:

Hr 1 - 2.73
Hr 2 - 2.51

Avg - 2.62 million viewers
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Smackdown going up despite being taped and in the UK feels like that might be a first for WWE.
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Surprised to see SmackDown do that well. There seems to be interest a-brewing.
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New low for RAW

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Hr 1 - 2.36
Hr 2 - 2.06
Hr 3 - 1.75

Avg - 2.06 million viewers
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