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Old 11-11-2019, 10:06 PM   #41
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Whoever in Creative came up with this segment and feud in general probably should have been tossed out of a window or the room right afterwards.
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That was the worst segment in WWE all year
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:14 PM   #43
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Whatever is in that mysterious bag is probably going to be something that ends up being very anti-climatic when its revealed.
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:16 PM   #44
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Can we collectively agree Paul Heyman is 'not good' anymore at creative?
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:20 PM   #45
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Can we collectively agree Paul Heyman is 'not good' anymore at creative?
He pretty much peaked in terms of putting on very good shows after his first one as RAW's Executive Director.

Even with Vince's usual stuff dragging things down, the stuff he's supposedly been in charge of hasn't been consistently good either and at times even worse.
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:25 PM   #46
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Using NXT UK guys in theory was cool but ultimately pointless if RAWjust squashes them all
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Honestly, most of the NXT UK guys aren't going to come out of this looking good to casuals.

Walter had the best showing of the bunch.
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:26 PM   #48
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That was such a waste of an appearance by Webster & Andrews. Maybe even the worst match they've had as a team in WWE and NXT.

For some reference, it was only about a month ago that Webster & Andrews were NXT UK tag champs even if the build for their title win was very rushed and had a very short title reign.
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A lot of sexual tension between Ricochet and Orton
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Guess WWE finally realized their generic ads for NXT were not helping at all to get people interested in watching the show and finally put some real effort on making those ads actually interesting.
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:33 PM   #51
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This is honestly one of the worst RAWs of 2019
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The 5x5x5 men's match

Assume NXT will be Cole, Lee, Riddle, Gargano and Ciampa

SD should be Reigns, Strowman, G, Cesaro and Corbin
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:37 PM   #53
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Read the results, seems like a classic phoned in episode being taped in U.K.

Also read Sin Cara 2 aka Hunico asked to be released with 3 years left on his deal but WWE said no.

I get not doing releases and all with AEW, but it is especially stupid in this case. Why can't they just get a 3rd person to be Sin Cara?

Why not throw that gimmick on a NXT guy like Raul Mendoza? They are both 5'7" and about the same weight. Mendoza is 13 years younger and would allow the gimmick to continue.

Seems win win for both Hunico and Mendoza. Vince needs to not be such a dickhead.
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:38 PM   #54
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The 5x5x5 men's match

Assume NXT will be Cole Kieth Lee Riddle Gargano and Ciampa
If that's the actual case, then last week's NXT ending was even more dumb.

Cole randomly decided to attack Ciampa after already interfering and attacking Styles. Then the show ended with him staring down Balor on the ramp who interfered earlier to attack Riddle. Rest of UE didn't even bother to show up at all.
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:44 PM   #55
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If that's the actual case, then last week's NXT ending was even more dumb.

Cole randomly decided to attack Ciampa after already interfering and attacking Styles. Then the show ended with him staring down Balor on the ramp who interfered earlier to attack Riddle. Rest of UE didn't even bother to show up at all.
Well the rest of UE are in the Tag and Secondary Title matches so..it could be Cole/Balor/Riddle/Ciampa/? But that makes even less sense
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:47 PM   #56
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Still doesn't explain why they went the way they did for last week's ending. Had Cole just attacked Styles as revenge earlier, it would have made sense and led to a better ending in terms of the NXT vs. main roster war.

Or even just have all of UE beat up the OC and Ciampa & Pals and it would have done a better job of working in both War Games and Survivor Series builds.
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:02 PM   #57
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6-man tag match was pretty good overall.

Outside of the women's tag match, rest of RAW wasn't that good overall.
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Orton gonna turn on Team Raw at SS so he can get traded because SD has no main event heels
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:27 PM   #59
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Is this show still on?
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What a piece of shit television show.
Remember when there used to be fights over which thread was the official RAW post? And now, it's late and barely two pages. Like a junior high book report. How the mighty have fallen.
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So Lana's whole problem is because she never bothered to tell an extremely horny Rusev to wear a condom.
It's not "Rusev". it's "RRRRRusev", because she ditched the russian accent yet seems to keep forgetting that while saying his name.
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Remember when there used to be fights over which thread was the official RAW post? And now, it's late and barely two pages. Like a junior high book report. How the mighty have fallen.
Now it's embarrassing to be the unlucky soul to give in and create em
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Ratings should be interesting...

on YT (so far) the Lana segment has 1.3 million views and the next most watched is under 500k...which is very low for WWE RAW the next day on YT
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Becky Lynch in-ring promo has the least views of any video other than the Aleister Black promo...

Seems like people don't really care about her anymore due to her not doing anything interesting in months...
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Old 11-12-2019, 02:17 PM   #68
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Being Seth's fiance during a time when everyone's turning on Seth probably doesn't help either.
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Becky Lynch in-ring promo has the least views of any video other than the Aleister Black promo...

Seems like people don't really care about her anymore due to her not doing anything interesting in months...
Yeah its likely a mix of her not having enough interesting and quality opponents to feud with as champ and being associated with Seth dragged her down a bit like Vito mentioned. Wasn't till her feud with Sasha that she actually had something very interesting to work with.

Also became somewhat obvious after a few weeks that WWE never had any real plans for her as a double Women's champion and Ronda was the only reason why she and the women's division got as big of a focus it did during Mania season. If it wasn't for FOX, WWE also likely would have went right back to Charlotte being the only top star for the division.
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Seems WWE went beyond their usual tactics when it comes to dealing with crowds not reacting the way they wanted.

Got called out again for blatantly messing around with the crowd's audio and using old crowd footage as reaction shots for last night's show.

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It's looking more and more like WWE made significant edits to this week's RAW segment with Seth Rollins, due to the negative live crowd reactions ...

Our live spoiler recap from Friday's coverage post also mentioned the negative reactions for Rollins. Our correspondent for the post wrote, "Seth Rollins comes out to a very mixed reaction. The boos takeover and Rollins looks like he loses his train of thought for a few seconds. He tells the crowd to keep that same energy when... it's hard to hear him at points. He talks some about Triple H and the WWE NXT crew. Rollins issues a challenge to the best that the UK has to offer. Imperium appears on the stage to a massive pop. It's WWE UK Champion WALTER, Fabian Aichner, Marcel Barthel and Alexander Wolfe. WALTER accepts the challenge and the crowd goes mad."

Alex McCarthy of talkSPORT also tweeted about the crowd reaction edits after attending and watching RAW.

"Just watching #RAW back. Anyone in attendance will back me up here: Seth Rollins' line 'I think I am the best wrestler on the planet' was roundly booed. Yet, they've made it sound like a majority cheer on the broadcast. Weird that they do that," McCarthy wrote. He continued, "And this isn't about Seth (I've been roundly abused before for arguing he is, in actual fact, very good and in the convo of best in the world), I'm just not big on crowd noises being adjusted to fit a narrative."

Another fan tweeted about the edits and wrote, "One of the things I've found hilarious about last weeks and last nights @WWE RAW was that there were several times the audio (fans booing and cheering) didn't even closely match what the audience was doing on TV. LMFAO wtf did WWE play with the audio?!?! #WWE"

Furthermore, a reader named Jeremie sent word that Monday's taped Rollins segment from Manchester also included footage from the October 28 RAW episode from St. Louis. Jeremie knows this because he and his friend, who attended the recent RAW in St. Louis together, were also seen in screenshots from this week's taped RAW. WWE likely used footage from the October 28 RAW to make Rollins look better in the segment where he was heavily booed at Friday's tapings.

The St. Louis RAW featured a promo from Rollins and a Falls Count Anywhere win over Erick Rowan.
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The old footage crowd shots are awesome. I hope they use really old footage with some Chris Benoit signs lol
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The 5x5x5 men's match

Assume NXT will be Cole, Lee, Riddle, Gargano and Ciampa

SD should be Reigns, Strowman, G, Cesaro and Corbin
Missed SD by one with Ali over Cesaro

I missed NXT by at least one since Gargano is hurt
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