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Old 05-07-2022, 08:42 PM   #3921
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Remember when TK tweeted that he chose the Rampage slot? Like anyone chooses Friday at 10 for their TV.

I also love it when people suggest the show gets a 7pm time slot instead. TK didn’t choose to go on at this time. He doesn’t have the weight or leverage to promote his show when it is underperforming as it is.
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Old 05-08-2022, 06:51 AM   #3922
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The overnight number for Rampage, which will probably increase, is 319k. Compare that to the third hour of Raw. Fucking yikes.

If Kathleen Finch is looking for reasons to get wrestling off TNT and TBS, Rampage failing is a good way to make it “their fault.” That and some of their content for morality purposes. But I remember the $45 million deal AEW signed being for Dynamite and what would become Rampage. If Rampage underperforms and AEW isn’t living up to their end of the bargain in generating viewers—WBD probably has a very clear path to cancelling their asses.

Rampage getting that death slot may have always been a planned out for Warner if the time ever came for it.
Does a broadcaster have to be so Machiavellian as to have purposefully planned to pay for extra content only to air it in a bad timeslot so that they have a reason to dump the show? Can’t they just go “nah, we don’t want it anymore and we don’t even need to justify it”?
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Old 05-08-2022, 10:08 AM   #3923
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Well, the other option was that they gave AEW a new weekly show and a bunch of TV specials because they were pleased with what they were already getting and wanted more.

And THAT can’t possibly be the case so... elaborate sabotage.
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i cant take the idea "we like you here's a friday slot" too seriously. more like "here's the worst slot we have. if you can make this work we'll talk."
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The one thing I feel pro wrestling really can't get away with anymore is taped shows. We saw it with last week's Smackdown, and we see it with the majority of Rampage episodes. If the wrestling is not a live show, the ratings are significantly lower.

Yes the 10:00pm timeslot is never going to get a large audience, but at least the live episodes get an additional 150-200k more viewers. The problem is that it is hard to justify renting out a 2nd arena for a 1 hour show, and the ad rate difference between 500,000 and 350,000 viewers is likely not very different.

It is cost effective to tape everything on the same night, but when they base so much of their bragging rights on ratings, it does hurt their case when they are doing much lower than they could do by not running Rampage live every week.
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True. Rampage was a bad idea altogether. Too much, too soon.
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i cant take the idea "we like you here's a friday slot" too seriously. more like "here's the worst slot we have. if you can make this work we'll talk."
Yeah, it was most likely a “fuck it, see if wrestling nerds follow you into this” scenario.
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Does a broadcaster have to be so Machiavellian as to have purposefully planned to pay for extra content only to air it in a bad timeslot so that they have a reason to dump the show? Can’t they just go “nah, we don’t want it anymore and we don’t even need to justify it”?
Sure, they could always cancel it without justification. Wrestling fans are an educated and understanding lot. Having justification is always nice though. But that’s always a game of perception. They could use low ratings or morality, as I said. It’s just fun stirring up the apologists.

I don’t put it past broadcasters to be Machiavellian at all though. But it was likely a crapshoot because they had to give them a slot and gave them the worst one to see if it could turn empty space into something. And that got a big, fat foghorn.
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True. Rampage was a bad idea altogether. Too much, too soon.
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Something else I’ll throw out there: Kevin Riley made the deal with AEW, right? We’ve been led to believe it was for the two shows with an ad revenue split. I don’t know how that’s changed over time with the TNT specials being thrown into the mix, but Brett Weiz would end up taking Riley’s place at some point. It’s definitely possible that buyer’s remorse or some form of passive aggressiveness coming out of the shakeups has informed how AEW is programmed too.
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AEW fanboys are predictably quiet on this one.
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CM Punk draws attention at first, then he loses it. This has been the pattern since 2011.
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1.65 million for RAW
To clarify, the first hour of Raw got 1.73 million viewers. The second got 1.63 mil. The third hour got 1.593 mil viewers.

If you want to compare third hours of each company’s programming outside of prime time, Rampage got 292k. Granted, it was out of its usual time slot. That’s because it’s not important, but nevertheless. If you’re someone who pays attention to Meltzer’s bullshit about demo — Raw’s third hour got 0.43 compared to Rampage’s 0.11. Raw actually increased over the third hour.

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Old 05-12-2022, 07:27 PM   #3948
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Old 05-12-2022, 07:30 PM   #3949
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the business was super hot though. live wire pulled better numbers
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Old 05-12-2022, 09:22 PM   #3952
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That’s even if the ratings pop. People are seeing through this shit now.
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Doesn’t really matter if it does if it’s not sustained. Would those debuts/returns have captured interest?
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