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Old 01-12-2019, 09:24 PM   #41
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Old 01-12-2019, 11:06 PM   #42
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Seth’s a good one, actually. I enjoyed him for a really long time, but ever since he went face his promos are always the same and, frankly, so are his matches. Sells the knee every match but somehow still has the energy to get all of his cool shit in.
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Old 01-12-2019, 11:11 PM   #43
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John Cena. liked his 2002-2007 run, hated his 2008-2013 run.

Now i appreciate him more as he is putting more people over, not being crammed down our throats every week. plus his U.S open challenge is what really made me change my tune.
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Old 01-13-2019, 05:48 PM   #44
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Seth seems like a weiner IRL. There's a difference between being a company guy and drinking the Kool-Aid. Really hated it when he jumped on Meltzer over the Peyton Royce thing. And then you go and work Saudi Arabia? Twat.
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Old 01-13-2019, 05:51 PM   #45
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His ring work is really good, but there are things about him that just rub me the wrong way too. Like his superplex into a Falcon Arrow. Like, save a kick-out from that for the WrestleMania main event. Although I'm sure he won't be hitting that on Brock.
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Actually, I do wonder what move Seth is going to beat Brock with at Mania? The Curb Stomp is his main finish now, yeah? For some reason, I just can't see that being the move that keeps Brock down. It just looks funny in my head. Maybe in the heat of the moment it will come off as really epic?
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:28 AM   #49
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Actually, I do wonder what move Seth is going to beat Brock with at Mania? The Curb Stomp is his main finish now, yeah? For some reason, I just can't see that being the move that keeps Brock down. It just looks funny in my head. Maybe in the heat of the moment it will come off as really epic?
Technically, he did defeat Brock Lesnar in a match at Wrestlemania and also used the Curb Stomp to score the pinfall and win his maiden WWE Championship.
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He defeated Lesnar?

Wait, you mean that cash in?
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:55 AM   #51
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Actually, I do wonder what move Seth is going to beat Brock with at Mania? The Curb Stomp is his main finish now, yeah? For some reason, I just can't see that being the move that keeps Brock down. It just looks funny in my head. Maybe in the heat of the moment it will come off as really epic?
This is the problem I have with rasslin these days. They have diluted finishers by letting everyone kick out so they come up with these other moves, ie superplex/falcon arrow that should be finishers as they are more devastating but they are filler moves. So many times a huge devastating move means nothing because it’s not the designated finisher.
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Old 01-14-2019, 04:30 PM   #52
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He won with the Suoerplex/Falcon Arrow anfew week’s back didn’t he? They just need to do that occasionally and not have everybody kick out of it.
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Old 01-14-2019, 04:57 PM   #53
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I saw an Al Snow interview where he said that most of the stuff identified as a false finish aren't really false finishes because for it to be a false finish, you have to actually think the match is going to end. Crowds don't bite on those moves.

But worse yet, every big match now you have guys kicking out of the actual finish and when it doesn't happen it leads to confused response. I remember Brock beating Braun after one F5 and everyone's reaction was "wait, that's all it took?" We should've never been conditioned to expect more.
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Old 01-14-2019, 05:14 PM   #54
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Always thought the AJPW/NOAH main event scene had it right. Guys have several moves that could potentially end the match, but don't always get the job done. It creates tension at every pinfall/submission. Then they have one "super move" that they only break out once in a while, but it's a one hit killer.
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Old 01-14-2019, 06:22 PM   #55
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Technically, he did defeat Brock Lesnar in a match at Wrestlemania and also used the Curb Stomp to score the pinfall and win his maiden WWE Championship.
He pinned Roman in that match, but he's hit the move on Brock before. He did it in the build to the Rumble Triple Threat with Cena too. And Brock's a genius, so I'm sure he can take it. For some reason I just find it odd to imagine Brock stumbling around in position and a dude the size of Seth stomping his head into the ground in epic fashion, haha.

I could see a more desperate version of the move or one onto the title belt being used for the finish or something. It's just an odd visual to imagine Brock "co-operating" for a move that much.

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This is the problem I have with rasslin these days. They have diluted finishers by letting everyone kick out so they come up with these other moves, ie superplex/falcon arrow that should be finishers as they are more devastating but they are filler moves. So many times a huge devastating move means nothing because it’s not the designated finisher.
It's only when they start hitting these moves that people wake up and get into things too. They'll only start popping after the first "finisher" only gets a two and the offending wrestler holds their head in disbelief that the same thing that happens every match is happening in this match.

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I saw an Al Snow interview where he said that most of the stuff identified as a false finish aren't really false finishes because for it to be a false finish, you have to actually think the match is going to end. Crowds don't bite on those moves.

But worse yet, every big match now you have guys kicking out of the actual finish and when it doesn't happen it leads to confused response. I remember Brock beating Braun after one F5 and everyone's reaction was "wait, that's all it took?" We should've never been conditioned to expect more.
Yeah, the conditioning is a major gripe of mine. I saw people complaining because Jeff Hardy only uses one Swanton Bomb to win matches.

I like the way Brian Last describes modern wrestling. It's a bunch of junior heavyweights wrestling All Japan style.
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Elias.

He was nothing of interest in NXT, and surprised he got called up. His matches are still nothing special.

But each week he goes out there, particularly when he was heel, and just managed to get a reaction every time. Nothing special, just classic heel tactics of insulting the local team etc but he just managed to get it right each time.
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Elias.

He was nothing of interest in NXT, and surprised he got called up. His matches are still nothing special.

But each week he goes out there, particularly when he was heel, and just managed to get a reaction every time. Nothing special, just classic heel tactics of insulting the local team etc but he just managed to get it right each time.
So what you mean is you're impressed with how he remembers which teams are in which towns?
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Seth Rollins.

Used to hate him for that stupid hair. He stopped that is now prolly my favorite, even though I don't watch much.
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I saw an Al Snow interview where he said that most of the stuff identified as a false finish aren't really false finishes because for it to be a false finish, you have to actually think the match is going to end. Crowds don't bite on those moves.

But worse yet, every big match now you have guys kicking out of the actual finish and when it doesn't happen it leads to confused response. I remember Brock beating Braun after one F5 and everyone's reaction was "wait, that's all it took?" We should've never been conditioned to expect more.
That was part of the effort to make the F5 a one hit kill that was building to Roman kicking out if it, and all that work lead to a crowd of




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