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Old 01-11-2019, 10:05 PM   #1721
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:06 PM   #1722
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Twitch stream keeps saying "AND NEWWWWW SUBSCRIBER... [username of new susbcriber]" in large font on the screen repeatedly...
gonna turn this off in like 2-5 mins unfortunately... why the fuck would they think this is a good idea... insane...
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I'll be watching on Pursuit. Might open up the Twitch stream to see how it's doing.
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:08 PM   #1724
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Twitch stream keeps saying "AND NEWWWWW SUBSCRIBER... [username of new susbcriber]" in large font on the screen repeatedly...
Checked it out, didn't think it was that big but could see how it'd be a distraction. Pursuit looks good.
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:08 PM   #1725
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:11 PM   #1727
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:13 PM   #1728
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It shouldn't be a problem once the new subscriber's level out. Seems Impact might need to get 15k to stay on Twitch maybe.

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Old 01-11-2019, 10:17 PM   #1729
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:36 PM   #1730
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Match was good, maybe a bit long. These GWN flashbacks are way too long though.
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:44 PM   #1731
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:44 PM   #1732
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:46 PM   #1733
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Lol, TNA. They got 7,000 on Twitch? I thought this was supposed to be their new revolution that would make their TV deal completely redundant or something?
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:58 PM   #1735
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Lol, TNA. They got 7,000 on Twitch? I thought this was supposed to be their new revolution that would make their TV deal completely redundant or something?
Why would it make the TV deal completely redundant? Does that make sense to you? It allows those who don't get Pursuit to watch, not make it redundant. Being on Pursuit put everything in house for Anthem which seems to have been their plan to begin with seeing as how they do with their channels in Canada. You have unrealistic expectations for this company man.
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Has been steady at like 9.8K most of the night
Seems pretty decent to me for the first show. Good thing about being on Twitch though is it'll be there for those that can't watch live. Going to have to amp things up a notch if they want to reach 15k subscribers though.
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I'm all for AEW but are they're not on TV yet. I dont think Steiner is there long though, said to just be for the premiere on Pursuit. He doesn't need to be heavily involved in anything, random appearances like that are probably best. He should have more mic time when he does show up though.
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Match was good, maybe a bit long. These GWN flashbacks are way too long though.
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Yeah a bunch of kitchen knife commercials.
I'd much rather have the old TNA clips from the GWN than the Pursuit commercials. It's a knife sharpener and a sock commercial every commercial break.
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Why would it make the TV deal completely redundant? Does that make sense to you? It allows those who don't get Pursuit to watch, not make it redundant. Being on Pursuit put everything in house for Anthem which seems to have been their plan to begin with seeing as how they do with their channels in Canada. You have unrealistic expectations for this company man.
Your words, not mine. You've literally said "TV ratings don't matter."
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I mean, they don't. Especially if you're on your own network now. That doesn't make it redundant though, its a national TV spot that alot of promotions would love to have.
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Overall I like the switch to Pursuit. It's a channel I already watch and it doesn't look like its from the 90's anymore. Twitch simulcast seemed to be a success aside from a few audio issues but I think they where universal. Commentary faded out a few times but mainly when entrance music was playing.

Sami Callihan needs a championship. Think he'd be a great X Division champion and they may be going that way. Going back to LAX vs OVE wouldn't make for bad matches but Impact needs more tag teams, bring in Pillars of Destiny full time. Would be a good contrast to the fast paced high flying tag teams they already have. Kinda think it should have been Kross vs Johnny at Homecoming instead of the face vs face match with Cage that didn't come out right. Could see Cage turning and aligning with Moose and Kross.
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I mean, they don't. Especially if you're on your own network now. That doesn't make it redundant though, its a national TV spot that alot of promotions would love to have.
1. They do.

2. No, they're not redundant. Although if they didn't matter they would be redundant.

3. I'm not so sure about that. I really do think it comes with a lot of perception problems and stunts the level you can compete at.
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Impact isn't trying to compete with anyone really. As they've shown they are willing to work with anybody from WWE to small Indy promotions. Sure there is natural competition between promotions for talent and such but they're also collaborating with one another like never before. It's one of the reasons All In was a success and I really think AEW should continue to work with everyone who wants to work with them. For them to take the petty route like WWE would be a mistake in my opinion. If you're not trying to compete against WWE there is really no one else to compete with and AEW is the only one trying at the moment.
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Meltz was saying that the ratings for Impact are almost impossible to get a hold of because so few people watch that channel and that it is "very, very bad" for them. Whoops.
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I think they knew that going into the deal, reason they brought the twitch simulcast in. Numbers for it seemed pretty decent for the start but like I said they going to have to do something if they want to reach 15k subs by March.
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I go to the pursuit streaming ch still no impact every other show is on there streaming content but impact, so they better get other tv.
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I think they knew that going into the deal, reason they brought the twitch simulcast in. Numbers for it seemed pretty decent for the start but like I said they going to have to do something if they want to reach 15k subs by March.
They didn't want this deal, Simple. They didn't want the shit time slot either. They don't want to go backwards. The Twitch stream getting 15,000 viewers is not going to be enough to compensate for their drop.
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Based on some estimates, Impact's debut episode on Pursuit did less than 60k since that was around what the lowest ranked show did for Showbuzz's report last week. Worst part is nothing from Pursuit ranked either so nothing to use as a basis for how Impact did compared to Pursuit's other shows.

That also seems to be about the threshold range for getting ranked since Lucha Underground had a similar situation happen to them last season.
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LolTNA. They lost nearly half their existing audience, at best. But they're doing great if you listen to Simple Fan.
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I get Pursuit but Impact wasn't even listed on my guide last Friday (AT&T Uverse.). I DVRd whatever was in Impact's spot, just in case, and it still wasn't Impact.

Looking now, they have it listed for this week but it's broken up into 4 half hours, instead of just a two hour block. Weird. Could be an AT&T thing but it still should've aired last week regardless of what the guide said, since I have the channel.
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Pretty sure the drop was expected. Is it the deal they wanted, no but its the deal that works best for them at the moment. Being in house allows Impact some freedom and could also help Pursuit grow as a channel. TV is just part of the equation and they are doing well in other areas, not great. They're in a rebuilding process and its not going to happen overnight but they did a good job in 2018. Now I don't think it'll ever get back to what it used to be but its a solid alternative and that all they should try to be.
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Pretty sure the drop was expected. Is it the deal they wanted, no but its the deal that works best for them at the moment. Being in house allows Impact some freedom and could also help Pursuit grow as a channel. TV is just part of the equation and they are doing well in other areas, not great. They're in a rebuilding process and its not going to happen overnight but they did a good job in 2018. Now I don't think it'll ever get back to what it used to be but its a solid alternative and that all they should try to be.
Expecting getting fucked up doesn’t mean you’re not getting fucked up. What do you even mean by “works best for them at the moment?” They have nearly halved their audience in a week. That’s not “best for the moment.” Rebuilding would mean they get more fans, not less. I don’t understand your reasoning process.
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Pursuit is best for them at the moment because it keeps them on TV. As I said it also brings everything in house for Anthem and allows Impact some freedoms. They have gained fans if you'd get past the TV numbers. This is a company that sold no tickets to shows for almost 2 years straight in Orlando and are now back to touring and selling tickets.

It's small steps yeah but this company was pretty much dead filming 3 months of TV in a week to a free audience not knowing if they'd be able to put on 2 PPVs. They now film about 2-4 weeks per taping to paying crowds all over and have the money to put on PPVs and Twitch specials. They've rebult how the company operates and have rebult the perception of the company to an extent. There are still people like Noid who'll hold stuff that happened with former regimes against them and that's part of the rebuilding process. I just find it weird to be a wrestling fan and hata a promotion so much that you don't even follow.
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Pursuit is best for them at the moment because it keeps them on TV. As I said it also brings everything in house for Anthem and allows Impact some freedoms. They have gained fans if you'd get past the TV numbers. This is a company that sold no tickets to shows for almost 2 years straight in Orlando and are now back to touring and selling tickets.

It's small steps yeah but this company was pretty much dead filming 3 months of TV in a week to a free audience not knowing if they'd be able to put on 2 PPVs. They now film about 2-4 weeks per taping to paying crowds all over and have the money to put on PPVs and Twitch specials. They've rebult how the company operates and have rebult the perception of the company to an extent. There are still people like Noid who'll hold stuff that happened with former regimes against them and that's part of the rebuilding process. I just find it weird to be a wrestling fan and hata a promotion so much that you don't even follow.
That is like saying that getting your arm cut off is good because it means you get to keep your head. Not getting your arm chopped off would be even better. Is being on TV necessarily a good thing? There’s some debate to be had there. Someone could argue that being on TV with 60,000 viewers is a big, big perception problem. Can you cultivate a star, for example, on a show Which existence proves that no one watches that individual? It’s a valid question. Are they spending money or making money on this TV? Just having TV and calling it good is very simplistic.

You still haven’t explained what more freedoms even means? Can Sami Callihan and Eddie Edwards now try to kill themselves in a forest...more? Is Scarlett going to actually get fully naked and start using a dildo? What does that mean? And what does it mean if 60% of the audience you had stick around?

Have they managed to get 40,000 people to pay for attendance? Because if so, I’s Like to know how they got almost everyone that watches them on TV to go and see them. That is the only way they could be perceived to have grown fans, by the way. They just lost 40,000. Do you know what growing means? And is TNA making this money, or are they getting it from another parent company?

Yes, they have a stigma to overcome. It’s their stigma. They have earned it. They have burnt out over 90% of people willing to give them a chance. That there are previous regimes at all says something. And they further pushed the Vince McMahon monopoly. That is why I hate them. You want to buy TNA, you buy everything that comes with it, including brand perception.

And I tried to give them a shot and I saw Eddie Edwards and Sami Callahan moaning in the woods as music played over the top. Fuck them. You can enjoy it, just don’t tell me that it’s good or that it is fucking growing when they are getting more than decimated in their main business metrics.

Also, you’re not a smart or reasonable guy, Simple. Don’t play that card.
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