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Old 03-23-2019, 01:13 AM   #41
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To be fair, Batista is the one who kept repeatedly pushing for this match. Not Triple H.
That's true.
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Old 03-23-2019, 06:34 AM   #42
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Triple H has only put over one person in the industry, and the only reason this match is happening is because his ego is happy to get that win back.
So we're just completely ignoring Daniel Bryan then? It's your turn to be on the spot and prove someone else wrong. But we both know you're better off not playing that game (pun intended) because we both know I'm right and have exposed your lie.
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So we're just completely ignoring Daniel Bryan then? It's your turn to be on the spot and prove someone else wrong. But we both know you're better off not playing that game (pun intended) because we both know I'm right and have exposed your lie.
Daniel Bryan didn’t get a thing from beating Triple H. He should have been in the main event of Mania from the start. Remember how pissed off people were after the 2014 Royal Rumble. Also, Bryan was opening Mania in a Ladder Match the year after. Swing and a miss, dingus.
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Daniel Bryan didn’t get a thing from beating Triple H. He should have been in the main event of Mania from the start. Remember how pissed off people were after the 2014 Royal Rumble. Also, Bryan was opening Mania in a Ladder Match the year after. Swing and a miss, dingus.
Right. It's not like he became WWE World Heavyweight Champion or anyth--OH, WAIT.
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Right. It's not like he became WWE World Heavyweight Champion or anyth--OH, WAIT.
Don’t be such a mark. First of all, that completely sidesteps my actual point that the win didn’t get him any more over, nor did it put him in any better position in the company. Ooh, he got belts. He was working with Kane in the Benoit cool-off spot. Fuck you. Secondly, even if champ actually did mean things the way you’re claiming them, then it’s not like he had been champ three times prior to — OH, WAIT.
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Yeah. Been very good. Emphasis on storytelling.
I generally enjoy HHH's WrestleMania matches depending on opponent. The storytelling can get out of hand some years like with Sting and Daniel Bryan but he usually puts on a clinic at WrestleMania.
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Don’t be such a mark. First of all, that completely sidesteps my actual point that the win didn’t get him any more over, nor did it put him in any better position in the company. Ooh, he got belts. He was working with Kane in the Benoit cool-off spot. Fuck you. Secondly, even if champ actually did mean things the way you’re claiming them, then it’s not like he had been champ three times prior to — OH, WAIT.
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I enjoyed his work with Ronda Rousey last year. Before that the Bryan match was really good. Before that you had the decent stuff with Undertaker that felt very heavy-handed at the time. In my opinion he was overshadowed in his performances with Taker and Lesnar circa 2012/2013 by CM Punk.
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I wanna root for DAMN iNATOR. But Noid knows what he’s talking about. Triple H is cool and all. I don’t mind him as a wrestler. But he’s definitely always sure to put himself in a position where you understand he’s more important than he actually is. He had no business going over Brock Lesnar. Ever. He let Brock go over in the rubber match at a B PPV so that his defenders could say “he lost the feud though!”. But history will show that he triumphed over the beast at the Granddaddy of Them All.
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The shit with Ronda last year was cool. I though he might tap to her but whatever. I understand why he didn’t. Either way, he was in a position where he came off as a bigger star than he actually is though. Is that intentional or is it just a bi-product of WWE not being able to create stars and thus making attitude era co-star Triple H a “star” by comparison to the current crop?
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Old 03-24-2019, 05:24 AM   #52
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He’s not an awful wrestler, but his misses are really high for someone who you can just tell wants to be considered an elite worker. He knows he needs bells and whistles a lot of the time, but other stuff he does just doesn’t reach the heights he is going for. The dude has been part of three underwhelming main events that couldn’t follow the show before it. This is especially true of Mania X-8 and Mania XXV. He just can’t shine in the star position, and he never has been able to. He got interest in early 2002, but it faded really fast.

In modern times, the H will lose, but make no mistake about who is going to be the bigger issue going forward. What did Seth get out of beating him? The following year, Seth’s opening the show in an IC Title match (just like Bryan). Beating him at Mania statistically means you are more likely to open the next year than main event.

He’s hit-and-miss, he doesn’t draw, it’s still all about him. How many people get turned off the product when they try and tune and be forced lies about this dude being one of the greatest of all-time? By what metric? He’s pushed way beyond his station, and WWE has suffered a serious case of dysphoria since he’s been pushed that way since about 2003. He really wants to be a star heel, but his only sustained value was circa 2000 when he was a great working heel for Rock. But he has to try and make himself the Flair, or the Vince.
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YYYYYIKKKKKES That was uncomfortable lol....

But hey if you're gonna have a camera on you most of your life you will have some moments. Goddamn that was awkward.
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He’s not an awful wrestler, but his misses are really high for someone who you can just tell wants to be considered an elite worker. He knows he needs bells and whistles a lot of the time, but other stuff he does just doesn’t reach the heights he is going for. The dude has been part of three underwhelming main events that couldn’t follow the show before it. This is especially true of Mania X-8 and Mania XXV. He just can’t shine in the star position, and he never has been able to. He got interest in early 2002, but it faded really fast.

In modern times, the H will lose, but make no mistake about who is going to be the bigger issue going forward. What did Seth get out of beating him? The following year, Seth’s opening the show in an IC Title match (just like Bryan). Beating him at Mania statistically means you are more likely to open the next year than main event.

He’s hit-and-miss, he doesn’t draw, it’s still all about him. How many people get turned off the product when they try and tune and be forced lies about this dude being one of the greatest of all-time? By what metric? He’s pushed way beyond his station, and WWE has suffered a serious case of dysphoria since he’s been pushed that way since about 2003. He really wants to be a star heel, but his only sustained value was circa 2000 when he was a great working heel for Rock. But he has to try and make himself the Flair, or the Vince.
And it gets really wiggy having the "mind for the business". Even giving him the benefit of the doubt and saying the majority of the success that NXT enjoys is due mostly to him, he can still be both a top-tier coach and a mediocre talent. And I will continue to call him mediocre, no matter how much it hurts James Steele's feelings specifically. He's pretty much on the other end of the "perception is reality" lens, and it feels painfully obvious to everyone that he never was as good as he is perpetually made out to be. He could have absolutely been top dog in a shitty indy/regional fed. Hell, if things went a totally different way for his career trajectory, he may have even been actual, earned upper eschelon of ECW.

Rafer Alston made it to the NBA. He had the talent to make roster. Played for a few teams over a number of years. But he never had the fame and noteriety he had like when he played on the AND1 tour. But imagine if the league decided to push the narrative that Skip To My Lou belonged in the same debates as Jordan or Magic or Iverson or LeBron? They would be outside their minds, and everyone would see how big of a lie that is.
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As someone who works in video production, to me that looks like Paul (Triple H) is annoyed with the production crew, not necessarily his wife, or perhaps just her by extension. The video is being horribly produced, and you can tell by the way he stops them on their "caffeine rant" at the beginning and has to question how they are going about doing this video ("are we just walking out of the store?") then the fact that the host doesn't know the answer and is actually asking him back ("what do you want to do? is there anything you wanted to focus on?") on-site is unprofessional and shows zero pre-production was done for this video. After that they have to wait for "Casey" who then shows up and gives a very crappy throwaway, car salesman-like message at the camera, which Triple H knows they'll never use because it makes their brand look like shit.

Paul is a busy guy and it looks like he loses his cool very early on because it's absolutely clear nothing about this video has been thought out beforehand, and so he sees its going to be a waste of his time.
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Lol, Triple H is such a dick. He’s probably been roiding for the Batista match. He’s got a rep for being annoying for business people to deal with, and seeing him act like this elaborates why that might be. Triple H isn’t doing his job properly here. This guy won’t be able to handle the stresses of running WWE.

And when you want to talk about the success of NXT: what success? Don’t they run at a major deficit? I don’t think the Halftime Heat video had even a million views last I checked. I think there’s a reason they don’t have a TV deal. It’s well-received, critically, but only by the niche of the niche that watch it.
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I wanna root for DAMN iNATOR. But Noid knows what he’s talking about. Triple H is cool and all. I don’t mind him as a wrestler. But he’s definitely always sure to put himself in a position where you understand he’s more important than he actually is. He had no business going over Brock Lesnar. Ever. He let Brock go over in the rubber match at a B PPV so that his defenders could say “he lost the feud though!”. But history will show that he triumphed over the beast at the Granddaddy of Them All.
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Lol just like at WM29, Triple H is putting his career on the line at MetLife

You know, just to kill any suspense that he might lose
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Man, HHH was in a mood indeed
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YYYYYIKKKKKES That was uncomfortable lol....

But hey if you're gonna have a camera on you most of your life you will have some moments. Goddamn that was awkward.
Incredible 🤣😂
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Lol just like at WM29, Triple H is putting his career on the line at MetLife

You know, just to kill any suspense that he might lose
Wasn’t the plan to babyface himself?
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Old 03-26-2019, 04:55 AM   #65
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The globalists, the internet wrestling fans, hate anybody who's as powerful as Triple H, anybody that believes in the individual's on screen persona. And, the fact is, those people promote vitriol, blind tweener worship, and that's why they've got to be eradicated. What a horrible world if the system is successful.
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Old 03-26-2019, 08:04 AM   #66
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Batista should have had to put his acting career on the line too.
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Old 03-26-2019, 09:24 AM   #67
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I would love if H lost and had to 'retire'

then this would build to Hunter coming out of retirement for 'one more match' at WM36, and that could be his big swan song.
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Saw the promo yesterday... wow this build sucks.
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I would love if H lost and had to 'retire'

then this would build to Hunter coming out of retirement for 'one more match' at WM36, and that could be his big swan song.
Only if it’s against Baron Corbin.
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In fact, Corbin could have the next Mania Streak of ending people’s careers.
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In fact, Corbin could have the next Mania Streak of ending people’s careers.
The reason there's so many Corbin haters now is because it's a chemical warfare operation, and I have the government documents where they said they're going to encourage homosexuality with chemicals so that people don't have children. Eliminating Corbin haters in the process.
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I've been thoroughly disappointed with the buildup. With the exception of Batista's return and that "give me what I want" segment, everything seems lackluster and forced. The two solo promos that Hunter cut were subpar considering what he's capable of. Using Reid's death in his promo right after he cracked something funny didn't sit well with me. This whole "feud" feels like Hunter is doing a favor for Big Dave and it has certainly not lived up to the initial hype.
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Serious question: Is anyone that might be remotely interested in Batista wrestling in WWE, that might have been charmed by his charming appearance in some of the highest grossing films ever, seriously going to have their interest piqued by seeing him lose to a babyface Triple H? This would be like bringing Rock back as a heel just to put over Cena in 2012.

This company has gone completely tone-deaf when it comes to capturing any cultural zeitgeist.

And how detrimental is this shit to business? It’s hard to measure audiences that might be interested in you but aren’t, but how many people tune into WWE and see a wrinkled and roided Triple H still on top when they weren’t that into him 16 years ago? This is like if WCW had won the war in 1998 because Austin couldn’t come back and were the only thing going for two decades, and they could just do whatever they want, but people think it’s healthy because they get killer TV backing.
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