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Old 03-13-2018, 05:24 PM   #1
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Big Match Jon vs The Undertaker

Does this excite anyone? The build up seems like a desperate Cena vs an uninterested Taker. Cena is just coming off whiny, and in all honesty it doesn't accomplish anything for either man.

A Taker win you could say he came back to New Orleans and avenged the loss that broke the streak. That also mean Cena has lost 3 PPV's in a row, he has buried himself

A Cena win means, he is the guy who broke the s.......no wait Brock did that.......he showed Taker that this is his y.......nope that was Roman last year......all is shows is how old and ordinary Taker has become, after 21 wins in a row Taker would be 1-3 at Wrestlemania.

I almost would have rather had Cena win at Fastlane, and go on the WM and have a passing of the torch match with Nakamura (Have AJ team with Shane to take on KO and Zayn, then run the AJ vs Nakamura program to headline the first Duel branded PPV)

But I digress, I just don't find this match appealing, at all as someone who grew up on the myth and mystique of the Undertaker, let the streak of Undertaker match at Wrestlemania end.
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Old 03-13-2018, 05:30 PM   #2
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Another idea: Let Taker come out with a spiritual successor to his Wrestlemania Legacy, and have the Demon King Finn Balor start his own WM streak (let it be the only time of year he dresses up in his Demon King gear special entrance etc.
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Old 03-13-2018, 05:33 PM   #3
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Old 03-13-2018, 05:34 PM   #4
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It's gotta be a handicap match.

Undertaker comes out in a wheelchair, Cena in a metal straightjacket and maybe on of his legs in a cast.
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Old 03-13-2018, 05:41 PM   #5
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Not really excited about the match. Taker returning as Biker Taker would peak some interest. Kind of makes sense after the guy leaving all his stuff in the ring the last couple years and Kid Rock going into the HOF.
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Old 03-13-2018, 05:47 PM   #6
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Maybe that’s what they’re going for with the “worked shoot” theme? We’re getting Mark, rather than The Undertaker.
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Old 03-13-2018, 06:12 PM   #7
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I'm extremely excited for this one. Probably more hyped for this than anything else on the card. And no way they're gonna have him be biker taker, they have to do the deadman taker entrance, it's mania.
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Old 03-13-2018, 07:07 PM   #8
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I'm extremely excited for this one. Probably more hyped for this than anything else on the card. And no way they're gonna have him be biker taker, they have to do the deadman taker entrance, it's mania.
He done the biker taker entrance at a few mania's. Not sure what the significance of the event is in that regard.
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Old 03-13-2018, 07:21 PM   #9
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That was before Mania revolved around him
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Old 03-13-2018, 07:54 PM   #10
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I'm hyped because it's one of the dream matches we haven't seen and also because I think the crowd will be really hot.
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Old 03-13-2018, 10:01 PM   #11
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I was really hoping that Braun was going to answer the Cena last night and challenge him to a match at WM, since Strowman was without an opponent at the start of the show too. Would have been something different, and Super Cena vs Monster Among Men would have been a fun dynamic in the build-up.
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Old 03-13-2018, 10:28 PM   #12
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Old 03-13-2018, 10:58 PM   #13
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Old 03-13-2018, 11:35 PM   #14
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I'm not that into Taker, but I'll take whatever I can get of Cena. He's going to work his ass off to prove that he can deliver with Taker. Low expectations means it will likely exceed them. I hope JR is on commentary.
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Old 03-13-2018, 11:55 PM   #15
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this would have excited me 5 years ago
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Old 03-14-2018, 12:56 AM   #16
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I have zero interest in this match, but I believe the correct decision here would be to have Undertaker go over Cena. This would achieve the following:

1) Make Reigns and Brock look even more special since they would be the only two guys to have beaten Taker.
2) Demonstrate to the fans that Undertaker still has heart and still has the ability to overcome all odds.
3) play into Cena’s, “do I still got it?” angle.

My hope is that Braun Strowman will be the one to definitively retire Undertaker later this year at Summerslam or something.
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Old 03-14-2018, 01:37 AM   #17
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Casual fans and kiddies aren't sitting there thinking to themselves "gee, Cena couldn't beat Undertaker, but Reigns and Brock did. Guess Cena isn't on their level". It's never mentioned. Add that Reigns and Lesnar have already beaten Cena clean as a whistle.

Cena v Taker is nothing more than a special attraction match. Regardless of who wins it'll lead nowhere because Taker isn't sticking around and Cena very well may not be either.
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Old 03-14-2018, 04:47 AM   #18
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Fair enough, but I think Taker jobbing again would start to tarnish his legacy a little. Taker should go over Cena at Mania in my opinion. Cena then continues his “do I still got it?” Schtick, while a guy like Braun can be the one to officially end Undertaker later in the yyear. Cena doesn’t need that notch on his belt.
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Old 03-14-2018, 10:28 AM   #19
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Taker already is tarnishing his legacy. He's been in meaningless go nowhere matches for years. Cena should win for the sheer fact that he'll still be around in some capacity after Mania. Taker will not be. We also both know that Cena won't go anywhere with the "do I still got it" shtick because it's being used to force an angle and match.
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Old 03-14-2018, 11:25 AM   #20
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Im not excited but the match will deliver
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Old 03-14-2018, 11:30 AM   #21
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Old 03-15-2018, 09:40 AM   #22
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Old 03-15-2018, 11:05 AM   #23
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I fthey are as serious as they seem to be with Strowman, they should have him DESTROY Undertaker at Mania.... like under 5 minutes. Then he has bragging rights over both Reigns & Lesnar, "You may have beaten Undertaker before, but I beat him quicker and more decisively, give me a title match". Easy post-mania feud.
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Old 03-15-2018, 11:58 AM   #24
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I am not excited about this match and I don't think it will deliver.
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Old 03-15-2018, 08:08 PM   #25
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Old 03-17-2018, 01:36 AM   #26
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Random prediction: Crowd is surprisingly into John Cena. I think we're about to enter a point in time where even the detached and habitual Cena hate melts away. But that might be a bit bold to predict it so soon.
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Old 03-17-2018, 01:46 AM   #27
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The crowd has gone nuts the two promos Cenas has done mentioning the idea of a Taker match. Cena will be able to pull a good match out of Undertaker, and hopefully Taker’s surgeries allow him to be better than his showing last year. This match will deliver because it will be a brawl like no other and the atmosphere and emotion will push it over the top. This is the last dream match left for WWE, and it is going to be tremendous.

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Old 03-17-2018, 01:48 AM   #28
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I'll watch it.
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The crowd has gone nuts the two promos Cenas has done mentioning the idea of a Taker match. Cena will be able to pull a good match out of Undertaker, and hopefully Takerís surgeries allow him to be better than his showing last year. This match will deliver because it will be a brawl like no other and the atmosphere and emotion will push it over the top. This is the last dream match left for WWE, and it is going to be tremendous.
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:31 AM   #30
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The only problem is that Cena often works to the level of his opponent, and Taker is pretty...yeah. I think it will be better from a spectacle perspective, and if Cena breaks his back though.
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Old 03-18-2018, 11:17 AM   #31
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The only mediocre Taker Mania match since the Casket match at WM 22 was his match against Bray Wyatt at WM 31, and even that wasn't terrible. This match is going to be incredible, probably on par with the Triple H-Taker Mania classics. Which reminds me, I just watched Taker-HHH from Mania 27 and holy fuck what a classic match. That one seems to be forgotten because of all the other classics Taker had over that course of Manias, but that one is just amazing.
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Old 03-18-2018, 09:20 PM   #32
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I liked Punk vs. Taker and I'm sure some of his stuff with Brock was good, but their Mania match kind of sucked. I enjoyed Reigns vs. Taker more than it was good because JR was on commentary, but Taker was...not in form.
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Old 03-19-2018, 12:44 AM   #33
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That promo this week, seriously bad.
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Old 03-20-2018, 11:38 AM   #35
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I dont watch the weekly shows...elaborate?
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Old 03-21-2018, 05:53 PM   #36
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Was it Taker or Cena? Taker's always been an awkward talker in the gimmick.
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You probably would have heard or read by now if Undertaker appeared on Raw, no?
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I dont watch the weekly shows...elaborate?
They're having Cena take the route of calling Taker a coward in order to get Taker to accept the challenge, but it's been coming off really hokey and cheesy and of course, transparent.
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Old 03-22-2018, 07:47 AM   #39
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With Daniel on the card, the AJ Dream match, The potentially awesome Cruiserweight Title match, the Usos match, the Askua match, the Finn Balor Seth Rollins Miz Match....

Yeah, I'm not really excited about John or Taker right now.
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You probably would have heard or read by now if Undertaker appeared on Raw, no?
Probably not. I haven't been reading reports or anything. I've been going by the dirt sheet thread.
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