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Old 03-13-2018, 01:07 AM   #40401
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Was just thinking they should have random finishes to matches way more often. Let guys score a pinfall off the superplex, or a powerbomb or a spine buster sometimes. Protect the finishers more, don't make them a requirement to end every match. Don't have people kicking out of finishers nearly as often. Make them the last ditch effort to put away your opponent during a big match. Make the kick out of a finisher a super big deal again. Seems like it would increase the suspense a little bit to me.
Not only that, but sometimes, the some of the transitions, placeholders, and high spots look more devastating than what is actually supposed to end the match.

So, a guy takes a top-rope death valley driver through a flaming table that's on an unpadded floor, and they're fine enough to just get up and continue the match in the ring, but some spinning elbow "knocks them out" dead just because that's the guy's finish? C'mon... it wasn't like you got hit with a Steiner Screwdriver. A flurry of kicks to the temple makes you dizzy for a couple of seconds, but one superkick to the chin, and you're prone just because it's a superkick (unless it's a Young Bucks match, because you have to eat about 12 more of them for no reason).
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Old 03-13-2018, 01:09 AM   #40402
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I dunno about you but I'm gonna be watching a lot of Thunder!
We can finally re-live the Lance Storm hat trick!
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:25 AM   #40403
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Just ran across this. Anyone that's been keeping up with Being the Elite and knows Chico should like it.

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Old 03-13-2018, 02:33 AM   #40404
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Is Thunder on the Network now?
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:35 AM   #40405
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Besides early brand split era, Smackdown was also pretty good to great during 08-11 especially when compared to RAW.

NXT from 2012-15 was also pretty great overall. Has the rise of NXT in general and start of the rise of women's wrestling in the WWE.
The Coach just joined Smackdown's announce team on the first episode of Smackdown from 2008. Are you fucking with me right now?
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:36 AM   #40406
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I'm looking at Hornswoggle accompany Finlay into a Beat the Clock Challenge, and I'm almost overcome with regret immediately.
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:50 AM   #40407
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Alright, the Chuck Palumbo/Jamie Noble feud is budding, and I remember enjoying that quite some bit.

Also, Michelle McCool was pretty fucking good.
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:51 AM   #40408
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Hated the Chavo of this era, though.
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:52 AM   #40409
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Disgusting promo about wanting Eddie to be alive still. Fuck that. Really bizarre how they exploited that.
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Old 03-13-2018, 04:41 AM   #40410
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The Coach just joined Smackdown's announce team on the first episode of Smackdown from 2008. Are you fucking with me right now?
As far as I can recall, Michael Cole and Jonathan Coachman called the WM 24 main event of Edge versus Undertaker for the World's Heavyweight Championship.
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Old 03-13-2018, 04:44 AM   #40411
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Naomi seems like a genuinely cool and fun person. Glad she got a run with the title and a wrestlemania moment.
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Old 03-13-2018, 04:50 AM   #40412
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Here's a random nugget from Smackdown during the original brand split. Lesnar, who had just won the 2002 Royal Rumble, got pinned by then WWE Champion Kurt Angle after the "switch". They would meet again in the main event of Wrestlemania 19.

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Old 03-13-2018, 04:53 AM   #40413
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Now that I think about it, Smackdown has "main evented" Wrestlemania only on two occasions.

WM XIX - Kurt Angle versus Brock Lesnar for the WWE Championship
WM XXIV - Edge versus Undertaker for the World's Heavyweight Championship
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Old 03-13-2018, 05:06 AM   #40414
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Technically, the main event of Wrestlemania 25 was a dual-branded affair. Randy Orton stayed on RAW (after the winning the Rumble), while Smackdown's WWE Champion Triple H also showed up on the flagship show for the storyline to progress. As far as I can recall, Hunter wasn't an official member of the RAW roster until the draft lottery after Mania.
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Old 03-13-2018, 11:19 AM   #40415
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I think eventually WrestleMania will be two days long, a Sat and Sun show. WWE is very pro-profit and it'd double their money as the show keeps getting bigger and longer.
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Old 03-13-2018, 11:37 AM   #40416
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I mean, between the HoF and NXT, it kind of is anyway
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Old 03-13-2018, 11:48 AM   #40417
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Old 03-13-2018, 11:49 AM   #40418
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move the HOF to Thurs, NXT to Friday,
WrestleMania night 1 - 3 1/2 hrs Saturday
WrestleMania night 2 - 3 1/2 hrs Sunday
RAW - Monday
SmackDown - Tuesday


Boom, sell double the tickets to WM, fans don't have to sit thru a 7 hr show (though some will spend double to attend both days, like a music festival of sorts) and they can charge even more for their travel packages by adding the extra show day.
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I bet nobody has ever thought or talked about this before, Slik. So original.
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Vader revealed he is having heart surgery today to fix his on-going heart problems.

In a bit of irony, him being involved in a car crash 2 years ago actually saved his life since it was only discovered as part of the routine medical check in the hospital.


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These will not be accurate predictions, but look at the potential length of this card from RAW matches alone. You can almost do two WrestleManias:

Triple Threat Match for the Universal Championship
Kevin Owens (c) vs. Chris Jericho vs. Finn Balor

Goldberg vs. Brock Lesnar III

The Undertaker vs. Roman Reigns

Triple H vs. Seth Rollins

Big Show vs. Shaquille O'Neal

Braun Strowman vs. Samoa Joe

RAW Women's Championship
Emmalina (c) vs. Charlotte

Cruiserweight Championship
Neville (c) vs. Kota Ibushi

RAW Tag Team Championship
The Hardys (c) vs. The New Day

Sasha Banks vs. Bayley

United States Championship
Sami Zayn (c) vs. Rusev

Cesaro vs. Sheamus

Gallows & Anderson vs. Enzo & Cass

12-Man Cruiserweight Kickoff
Austin Aries, The Brian Kendrick, TJ Perkins, Noam Dar, Drew Gulak & Ariya Daivari vs. Akira Tozawa, Tajiri, Rich Swann, Cedric Alexander, Gran Metalik & Mustafa Ali
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SmackDown's counterpoint could be:

WWE Championship
Bray Wyatt (c) vs. Randy Orton

AJ Styles vs. Shane McMahon

Mixed Tag Team Match
John Cena & Nikki Bella vs. The Miz & Natalya

SmackDown Women's Championship
Alexa Bliss (c) vs. Becky Lynch

TLC Match for a SmackDown Tag Team Championship shot
The Usos vs. The Fashion Police vs. The Ascension vs. The Vaudevillains

Triple Threat Match for the Intercontinental Championship
Dean Ambrose (c) vs. Baron Corbin vs. Luke Harper

Hair vs. Mask Match
Dolph Ziggler vs. Kalisto

WWE UK Championship
Tyler Bate (c) vs. Jack Gallagher

Kane vs. James Ellsworth

Hardcore Match for the honorary ECW Championship
Rhyno (c) vs. Heath Slater

Mickie James vs. Naomi

Apollo Crews vs. Mojo Rawley

SmackDown Tag Team Championship
The Revival (c) vs. American Alpha

Kickoff Match
Pete Dunne vs. Trent Seven


Admittedly that's not the most heavyweight card, but if you throw in things like Alpha being accompanied by Hulk Hogan and you really let AJ Styles, it could deliver and help some of those undercard guys who are struggling find places. Kane vs. Ellsworth would just be a squash. Rawley has got heel potential. The TLC match seems like it has odd placement and is a generally weird addition, but I think it would call back to that time they first gave Edge & Christian and The Hardys a ladder and gave them the chance to try and get over. It also allows you to place The Revival in the actual title match without politically stepping over everybody else's spot. I suppose you could not do Slater vs. Rhyno and have them in there if you want a babyface team people care about, but you could also call up The Dudleys and just trim The Ascension and Vaudevillains from the match, but I think it would be kind to give them a shot here. Overall, that means you'd be getting 26 main show matches across a weekend.
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Rather than make it a two day show why not just stop trying to plug every worker you can think of into a match? 10 solid matches is enough, anything else is too much.
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My fingers are crossed for Kurt. He looked so bad in his return matches and I really hope he's been training as hard as he can to make it work.
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Rather than make it a two day show why not just stop trying to plug every worker you can think of into a match? 10 solid matches is enough, anything else is too much.
2 main belts
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So either some title doesn't get defended or there aren't any non title matches
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Rather than make it a two day show why not just stop trying to plug every worker you can think of into a match? 10 solid matches is enough, anything else is too much.
Yeah definitely this! Wrestlemania used to be the "showcase of the immortals". The best of the best. Now it's all about cramming everybody into the show, even if it means cramming them into filler matches that nobody cares about.
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Old 03-14-2018, 07:57 AM   #40429
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I mean when it started it was just as much about cramming everyone onto the show. Lots of stupid matches.

Ricky Steamboat faced Matt Borne for Christ's sake.
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Old 03-14-2018, 08:06 AM   #40430
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Alfred hayes was clearly coked out of his mind.
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I hated Alfred as a commentator but fuck that guy could work, esp as a heel.
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Old 03-14-2018, 08:28 AM   #40432
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Video maker of the Reigns roid allegations story now claiming the full video exposing Roman buying illegal roids is arriving this Friday. Then again the video maker promised and delayed this video a couple times already.

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I hated Alfred as a commentator but fuck that guy could work, esp as a heel.
Lol awww come on, Hayes and Gorilla were fun together.
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Old 03-14-2018, 01:54 PM   #40436
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Immediately thought of the old N64 wrestling games from Shane's sell of getting thrown into the post. All that was missing was a "ding" type sound and it would have been a perfect reenactment by Shane.
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Old 03-14-2018, 07:08 PM   #40440
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Immediately thought of the old N64 wrestling games from Shane's sell of getting thrown into the post. All that was missing was a "ding" type sound and it would have been a perfect reenactment by Shane.
I bet that's where it came from too. Good call.
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