06-27-2019, 02:19 PM | #41 |
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Baby Boomer isn't just about age it's about how many babies explode
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06-27-2019, 02:22 PM | #42 |
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Going to be interesting in five years when WWE has continued to drop in eyeballs and attendance to the point they really only exist as a 1 hr 'from the vault' show on Fox Sports and a company that does two tours a year in Saudi Arabia after Vince sells the joint because the XFL flops, SD flops on FOX (note, I predict it will do ok for a few months before tanking) and Stock eventually plummets for a multitude of reasons.
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06-27-2019, 02:22 PM | #43 |
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Of course, the opposite of all that could happen too.
IDK, guess we'll see what the future holds |
06-27-2019, 02:25 PM | #44 |
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I dunno what theyre doing to increase they gate but they should be very concerned. Granted for the first time ever the gate isnt paying the bills but thats a huge revenue stream to have hemorrhage like that.
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06-27-2019, 02:29 PM | #45 |
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I think they've got to lower ticket prices.
I don't know what they pay to rent buildings but ticket prices have gone up considerably the last few years it seems. I think lower prices would help attract people who want to bring their kids to a show, more parents/kids = more butts in seats. |
06-27-2019, 02:31 PM | #46 |
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Just imagining Road Wild 2020 resulting in actual Amish Roadkill.
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06-27-2019, 02:34 PM | #47 |
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Heyman was never going to AEW unless Brock did. Bischoff maybe, but that's a giant maybe.
Heyman thinks outside the box and is creative. Bischoff understands story structure and continuity better than just about anybody in wrestling. Vince overseeing them is the problem. If he shoots down all of their ideas then what is the point? If he lets them have creative freedom, both shows will improve greatly. Also wildcard rule has to end immediately. |
06-27-2019, 02:48 PM | #48 |
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I don't want a heel authority figure because it's a very played out trope but I still think Bischoff was the best GM they've had. He's a really great on-screen performer.
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06-27-2019, 02:50 PM | #49 |
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I don't know if AEW would of signed these guys anyway to be honest. maybe Heyman to act as a consultant, but i think the AEW guys are fine on their own. But it is funny seeing the WWE keep on going to the well to make something work. We've had the 24/7 title, Taker/Golderberg and now this announcement recently.
I don't really see these two helping at all. Vince is still running the show and his creative has been pretty shit for a while and he doesn't seem to want to change. They're still a billion dollar company though so i guess why would he? he probably doesn't give a fuck about Monday Night Raw or Tuesday Night Smackdown anymore |
06-27-2019, 02:56 PM | #50 | |
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06-27-2019, 02:58 PM | #51 |
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Vince only listen to Russo
hire vince russo,,,,, |
06-27-2019, 03:28 PM | #52 |
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Paul Heyman has been involved with creative for a long time and it's fucking sucked. Bischoff has exposed himself as a hack time and time again. This is going to be pretty funny. Guess they have to do something.
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06-27-2019, 03:45 PM | #53 |
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Honest question: who would you hire instead?
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06-27-2019, 03:47 PM | #54 |
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Honestly, I'm not sure and I wouldn't want to be in that position at all. I think it's way too messy and you probably couldn't pay me enough to want to take on the stress of working with Vince. I'd take a much lower-paid but possible job somewhere else.
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06-27-2019, 03:53 PM | #55 |
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06-27-2019, 03:56 PM | #56 |
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At least he got wrestling people and not some writers from Temptation Island or whatever.
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06-27-2019, 04:00 PM | #57 | |
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If these two guys arent the guys who you think are fit for the job then who is more qualified then them? |
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06-27-2019, 04:02 PM | #58 |
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Gulp.
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06-27-2019, 04:12 PM | #59 |
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I don’t think Seth as a main eventer is a bad thing in theory. Just give him interesting people to work with. Aka not following up a fun match win AJ with throwing him into a multi-PPV program with Baron fucking Corbin.
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06-27-2019, 04:12 PM | #60 |
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Seth is a good rassler and a boring face character
Maybe Paul can spice him and Drew up IDK |
06-27-2019, 04:25 PM | #61 | |
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Everything hings on how Vince is going to act once things start going into motion. If this plan is actually modeled after NXT, then it has a very good chance of succeeding. If not, then they will eventually just become like Bruce Prichard, who has been very ineffective as the top guy in Creative and as the mediator or "voice of Vince" to Creative. |
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06-27-2019, 04:43 PM | #62 |
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To be fair, every face in WWE is brutally boring. They make them single-note and hammer that note into the fucking ground.
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06-27-2019, 04:50 PM | #63 | |
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I would let Smackdown have the bigger stars, since Bischoff will give their characters actual story arcs. I would let Raw have the upper mid card guys, if Paul Heymans tenure as Smackdown head writer in the early 2000's proved anything, it's that Paul can take upper mid card guys and get them to top guys. They need to get rid of the wildcard, and not have any superstar shakeups for at least 3 years. Making the the shows truly different brands is the only way to get the ratings up for both shows. They also need to go back to brand exclusive PPVs. |
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06-27-2019, 05:17 PM | #64 |
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06-27-2019, 06:20 PM | #65 |
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06-27-2019, 06:22 PM | #66 |
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I'm pretty sure Bischoff will have usurped Triple H to claim Steph and NXT before the year is out. He'll then give NXT to Kevin Nash.
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06-27-2019, 06:27 PM | #68 |
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More importantly, how will former TPWW poster, Poit react to this?
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06-27-2019, 06:31 PM | #69 |
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06-27-2019, 07:17 PM | #71 |
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They really do these days.
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06-27-2019, 07:27 PM | #72 |
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I'm honestly not sure. It's not that I don't think either has the qualifications, but I'm not sure either is the right guy to pull WWE out of its spiral.
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06-27-2019, 08:22 PM | #73 |
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06-27-2019, 08:34 PM | #74 |
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According to the Observer, FOX was caught by surprise from WWE's announcement and it turns out they rather have Heyman than Bischoff had WWE actually gave them the choice beforehand.
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06-27-2019, 10:16 PM | #75 |
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Some conflicting reports regarding why Triple H wasn't picked to head either RAW or Smackdown.
Voices of Wrestling reported that Triple H refused the offer, Pro Wrestling Sheet speculating he didn't want to split time between NXT and a main brand due to the rumors of NXT moving to FS1 later this year, and Fightful debunking both of those reports. |
06-27-2019, 10:58 PM | #76 |
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06-27-2019, 11:01 PM | #77 |
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True. Outside of the fact that they're feuding or pitted against WWE's similar awful boring, single-note idea of "heels", I don't think they even register or qualify as faces. Though I guess, in theory you could say the same thing about the heels too in a lot of respects.
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06-27-2019, 11:38 PM | #78 |
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06-27-2019, 11:49 PM | #79 |
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If anyone fails it will be Heyman.
The Bisch has a glorious head of hair. |
06-27-2019, 11:57 PM | #80 |
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Gonna just post this as my only comment
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