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07-25-2022, 08:03 AM | #201 |
fire walk with me
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07-25-2022, 09:21 AM | #202 |
President of Freedonia
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Vince should become a Twitch streamer.
He already loves yelling into headsets and looking at monitors. |
07-25-2022, 09:29 AM | #203 |
Trickster Demon
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07-25-2022, 09:30 AM | #204 |
They/Them
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God damn it slik! I was coming to post that.
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07-25-2022, 09:33 AM | #205 |
It's a blood match!
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Okay time to give WWE a shot again.
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07-25-2022, 09:39 AM | #206 |
They/Them
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The coup was a success lol. I really hope we get all the juicy details one day about what actually happened behind the scenes and how this all got put in motion.
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07-25-2022, 09:43 AM | #207 |
Trickster Demon
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07-25-2022, 09:49 AM | #208 |
3 Dicks Out For Trips
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Bray Wyatt please and thank you Papa Haitch.
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07-25-2022, 09:50 AM | #209 |
Trickster Demon
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07-25-2022, 09:50 AM | #210 |
3 Dicks Out For Trips
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Can we please push KO again too? Thanks again Papa Haitch.
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07-25-2022, 09:50 AM | #211 |
Trickster Demon
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Shayna Baszler's jobber era to end
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07-25-2022, 09:55 AM | #212 |
It's a blood match!
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Just remember how fucking good NXT was at one point. There is certainly now a lot of hope for a creative revival in WWE. Just as Tony Khan is slipping on his own drool over the WWE releases he's signed as well.
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07-25-2022, 09:56 AM | #213 |
3 Dicks Out For Trips
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Ciampa main roster push plz
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07-25-2022, 09:57 AM | #214 |
3 Dicks Out For Trips
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MJF incoming
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07-25-2022, 09:57 AM | #215 |
3 Dicks Out For Trips
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I honestly wonder how Cody feels about this?
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07-25-2022, 10:01 AM | #216 |
It's a blood match!
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Triple H is his favorite wrestler, I think they are on good terms from anything I've read. Cody has a lot of reverence for H, despite the thrown smashing I guess.
I know H has his H-Attack but never say never, Cody and H at a Mania would be huge. |
07-25-2022, 10:10 AM | #217 |
Resident drug enabler
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07-25-2022, 10:14 AM | #218 |
Shelly Martinez = Ratings
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07-25-2022, 10:18 AM | #219 |
Trickster Demon
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07-25-2022, 10:37 AM | #220 |
They/Them
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Looks like the market is optimistic at least for now.
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07-25-2022, 10:41 AM | #221 |
Trickster Demon
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Probably safe to say the days of the RAW/SD scripts getting torn up an hour before airtime is over under the HHH era
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07-25-2022, 10:49 AM | #222 |
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Vince was trying to push them out and then they had someone look into the companies finances to create the scandal and took him out.
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07-25-2022, 10:58 AM | #223 |
It's a blood match!
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I am not saying it's going to happen over night but this is certainly going to affect AEW, negatively. I was on the F4Wonline forum and there are so many "ALL OR NOTHING" AEW fans that refuse to see the threat to the growth that AEW has made, which really isn't growth but the steady audience of 750-900k viewers.
We know that it's smart for the structure of WWE to remain similar, you don't want to "change the whole show" but there are a thousand micro changes that can amount to great revival for WWE. Because of the level of potential viewership, if WWE does "get better" over time, you'd think that on all levels their views would increase. USA, Fox, Peacock and internationally. They are already doing very good business with live gates, though that number is so insignificant to the rights deals they have. Triple H is also keen on "debuts", from watching his NXT creative. Not on the level of Tony Khan but, I'm saying there are a ton of talents that WWE could either "bring up" from NXT or UK, as well as the vast amount of talents that were released. Though, remember that Nick Kahn was credited for a lot of those releases, perhaps he wants to keep the talent budget at a certain level. We shall see. Even without a lot of returns, there is a lot of potential. The biggest turn here would be if for the sake of God, Raw is reduced to a two hour show. Unlikely, I know but you never know. |
07-25-2022, 10:59 AM | #224 |
President of Freedonia
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I am hopeful there will be noticeable differences in creative with time.
The skeptic in me however feels there isn't any actual incentive for WWE to change anything because what they've been doing has been incredibly profitable. |
07-25-2022, 10:59 AM | #225 |
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Now that Vince has free time I think he should do podcasts weekly
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07-25-2022, 11:02 AM | #226 |
It's a blood match!
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07-25-2022, 11:07 AM | #227 | |
Hey Mister!
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At the end of the day, triple h is still answering to the investors, and he's not going to have the freedom to run things like he did NXT. I'm hoping for positive change, but I am in no way optimistic about it. |
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07-25-2022, 11:08 AM | #228 |
They/Them
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I would bet on things changing creatively. Vince was a terrible booker. Any change would probably be better also. He ran out of ideas in like 1989.
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07-25-2022, 11:12 AM | #229 |
It's a blood match!
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All of the talent that WWE is pushing right now is totally ready to let the shakles off. These guys like Roman, Brock, Lashley, Drew, Becky, Charlotte, Auska, Profits, Riddle, MVP,
Styles, Uso's, New Day, KO, Zayn... like they can all do their own thing. They don't need to be shackled to scripts and bad creative. I think Triple H is old school, and he is a wrestling fan. Yes there is a wider audience and we shouldn't expect something like NXT, but NXT should show that he really cares about wrestling and know what a great product can look like, and he can produce that. Who cares that Vince didn't agree? NXT could have "beaten" AEW with the right game plan and circumstances. But unfortunately NXT had been raided of all it's hot stars and all that was left on the scene was signed to AEW. I don't view the state of NXT as Triple H's fault. I don't view AEW beating NXT as Triple H's fault. There was a hot new promotion with big stars that a bunch of people wanted to watch. And NXT was in a small venue every week with great wrestling but no real care behind it, from Vince. |
07-25-2022, 11:17 AM | #230 |
They/Them
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I would also expect the type of talent who gets pushed to change as well. HHH likes workers, regardless of size or build.
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07-25-2022, 11:28 AM | #231 |
Hellraiser Extraordinaire
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And with all this news about H taking over creative, Little Jimmy Steele's gotta have his nut so broken, he needs clear epoxy to put it back together.
Right? XD |
07-25-2022, 11:32 AM | #232 |
In His hands...
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I sincerely hope this leads to big changes, it'd be a breath of fresh air and definitely renew my interest.
This, combined with the upcoming "TV14" rating change COULD be interesting. Cautiously optimistic. |
07-25-2022, 11:43 AM | #233 |
They/Them
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WWE stock is up 9.5 percent at the moment.
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07-25-2022, 11:49 AM | #234 |
They/Them
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Wall Street likes the idea of Triple H being in charge apparently. I guess even they know Vince was bad creatively lol.
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07-25-2022, 11:53 AM | #235 |
Resident drug enabler
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07-25-2022, 12:42 PM | #236 |
RoBOT Reigns
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The issue with NXT happened way before AEW, and it was how badly Vince handles the callups. Vince killed any incentive for fans to be invested in NXT or the roster. It got to the point where even the wrestlers themselves did not want to get called up because they knew it would be doom. Even guys who by all accounts fit Vince's vision of what a wrestler should look like such as EC3 or Karrion Kross, were intentionally devalued immediately. They were literally called up not to improve Raw or Smackdown, they were called up to devalue NXT.
Triple H's creative upstaged Vince's by a mile, and instead of Vince trying to make improvements to the main roster's creative, he pulled Triple H's best pieces and buried them, then tried to put the blame on Triple H for NXT's failures. I don't know for certain Triple H will be able to have large scale success, but at the very least if he and Steph can do simple things like not doing mass firings or having people walk out, not renaming everybody and not intentionally killing anybody getting over, well that itself would be far better. |
07-25-2022, 01:29 PM | #237 |
King of Love and Piss
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I bet this retirement was in the works for a while and someone fast forwarded it. Probably why Cody went back to WWE and why Bray has not signed with anyone else.
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07-25-2022, 01:31 PM | #238 |
RoBOT Reigns
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07-25-2022, 01:36 PM | #239 | |
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07-25-2022, 01:40 PM | #240 |
Trickster Demon
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Wrestler about to have first names again in the HHH era
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