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Old 06-12-2020, 12:11 PM   #55881
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That's the sort of thing you can expect from a man who's entire audience is attracted by outrage.
Pretending to be a moron will make you richer than your wildest dreams.
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Old 06-12-2020, 12:28 PM   #55882
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This is what I keep saying. People viewing anything other than WWE as minor league
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Old 06-12-2020, 12:31 PM   #55883
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That's the sort of thing you can expect from a man who's entire audience is attracted by outrage.
Pretending to be a moron will make you richer than your wildest dreams.
What not being aware of a 2nd rate company that's only popular to internet nerds?
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Old 06-12-2020, 12:47 PM   #55884
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It doesn’t need to be that way, but these “alternatives” make it so.
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Old 06-12-2020, 01:20 PM   #55885
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Feels like there is no good way to do it TBH.


Do stuff that isn't like WWE - you aren't good enough


Do stuff like WWE - get off their nuts.




What would make it NOT that?
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Old 06-12-2020, 01:43 PM   #55886
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Nothing. That's why I've maintained that AEW hit its ceiling in week 1. It's a niche audience of a niche audience.
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Old 06-12-2020, 02:35 PM   #55887
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So what makes it that then? Strictly the talent?
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Old 06-12-2020, 03:12 PM   #55888
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Old 06-12-2020, 06:30 PM   #55889
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Old 06-12-2020, 07:23 PM   #55890
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Old 06-12-2020, 07:26 PM   #55891
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As far as AEW goes...

It's been a yr. They have a solid base, but Gertner is mostly right. They've peaked for now with their audience.

They could potentially grow but it's going to take years and they need something different to gain a bigger audience or take War's loyalists away. I have no idea how they do that.
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Old 06-12-2020, 08:19 PM   #55892
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Honestly, I thought Covid 19 was going to be a boon to AEW's and NXT's ratings, but it really hasn't done anything
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Old 06-12-2020, 08:24 PM   #55893
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The lack of crowd did them no favors. The energy just isn't the same and because AEW was limited on talent, the amount of storytelling they could do was limited. I don't recall the tag or women's titles being used at all.

I also think covid took a lot of eyes away and moved them to getting news via tv and social media.
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Old 06-12-2020, 08:29 PM   #55894
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I figured the lack of sports alone would have drawn more eyes
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Old 06-12-2020, 08:36 PM   #55895
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The lack of crowd did them no favors. The energy just isn't the same and because AEW was limited on talent, the amount of storytelling they could do was limited. I don't recall the tag or women's titles being used at all.

I also think covid took a lot of eyes away and moved them to getting news via tv and social media.
Pretty much this.

AEW and NXT being more action oriented meant they had the most to lose with the loss of crowds. AEW tried to mitigate that with wrestlers as the crowd but that was more of a stop gap than a real solution.

Combine that with news saturation on a level not seen in a long while and you end up with the perfect condition for people being pre-occupied or in no mood for wrestling even with the lack of sports. It did seem like things were starting to turn around a bit but then another major wave of news saturation hit with the police brutality protests and riots.
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Old 06-12-2020, 08:41 PM   #55896
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I figured the lack of sports alone would have drawn more eyes
That was the big assumption from the Observer and others but outside of the first week or two, that ended up not being the case at least in terms of live viewers. DVR numbers held up better for a while before crashing down.

Didn't help WWE resisted adapting to the situation until it was way too late which just made everything worse. That's the one downside of WWE having an iron grip over US wrestling and the mainstream equating them with wrestling.
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Old 06-12-2020, 08:52 PM   #55897
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Lol didn't the Korean Baseball League on ESPN draw something like 175,000 viewers on a 2am spot on a Tuesday last month
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Old 06-12-2020, 08:56 PM   #55898
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I mean, that's baseball. Teams are getting 100s of millions of dollars annually plus ad revenue on regional sport networks. The average baseball attendance live gate is like 20k I think. You can't compare wrestling to that.

I also think there was a thirst for the sports deprived fan from not having anything to watch. I'm too lazy to see if I heldupbut I wonder if the KBO ratings moved at all one way or the other.
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Old 06-12-2020, 09:06 PM   #55899
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Probably not at least in regards of viewership gains since ESPN stopped revealing their ratings numbers for KBO games after the first night or so.
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Old 06-12-2020, 10:22 PM   #55900
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Old 06-13-2020, 12:26 AM   #55901
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A few thoughts.

1. Chris Champion looks like he'd fit right in with the AEW crowd.
2. I get this feeling that, after this match, Kevin told Rick to do that nasty looking clothesline more often. And the Steiner-line was born.
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A video where Bret Hart is actually laughing (something i don't think I've ever seen before), instead of being a miserable old prick which seems to constitute 99.9% of vids he's in.
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A few thoughts.

1. Chris Champion looks like he'd fit right in with the AEW crowd.
2. I get this feeling that, after this match, Kevin told Rick to do that nasty looking clothesline more often. And the Steiner-line was born.

Lol Rick was probably concussed from that fucking kick Champion gave him. Not the first time Champion has done that.
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Old 06-13-2020, 05:25 PM   #55905
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Lol Rick was probably concussed from that fucking kick Champion gave him. Not the first time Champion has done that.
Probably. But that was NOT a bump he took off the clothesline.
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Old 06-13-2020, 07:12 PM   #55907
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Old 06-13-2020, 08:11 PM   #55908
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Kind of surprised that Haku is not yet in the WWE Hall of Fame.
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For that dance alone.
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Old 06-13-2020, 09:18 PM   #55910
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For that dance alone.
Michael Jackson, Fred Astaire, Usher, all of them pale in comparison of the smooth moves of Haku.

He's in the room with me, SEND HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-13-2020, 09:21 PM   #55911
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I keep reading Lashley going to win the title because they want to do Lesnar vs Lashley.

Brock gonna end another Black wrestlers first championship reign lol

Plus it makes no sense unless Lesnar is suddenly a face, and face Brock is dumb
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Not even Fandango and Alex Wright can stand toe-to-toe with Meng's mastery of the art of the dance.
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Old 06-14-2020, 12:56 PM   #55913
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Jimmy Carter wanted Mr. Wrestling 2 to make appearances with him, but the Secret Service wanted him to take his mask off, and he wouldn't.

Also, I chased the picture down because of a reference to it in a comment in a Corny video.
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Old 06-14-2020, 04:21 PM   #55914
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What not being aware of a 2nd rate company that's only popular to internet nerds?
No, I was referring to his penchant for commenting on things he has no knowledge of...
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Chris Champion is another one of the perverts of wrestling.
Kissing the young girls while dressed as a ninja turtle and all that shit.
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Old 06-14-2020, 05:53 PM   #55917
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Jamie Dundee maintains that the charges were bullshit because you can't get an erection through the Ninja Turtle costume
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Apparently some new details regarding the plane incident from WWE's Crown Jewel event last year got revealed from a revised lawsuit currently against the company.

Mostly reveals who was the origin of the rumor of this being caused by a money issue and the plane's staff hinting this incident wasn't caused by them.

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Jamie Dundee maintains that the charges were bullshit because you can't get an erection through the Ninja Turtle costume

Brian Hildebrand did it all the time
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Old 06-14-2020, 11:47 PM   #55920
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Macho Man vs. Steamboat, Bret vs. Austin, and Punk vs. Cena as my choices.
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lol at Gargano and Cole being on that list
I'd almost agree with Smeat entirely, *but* instead of Punk vs. Cena, I'd scratch the Cole/Gargano match and vote Zayn vs. Nakamura in its stead. Its one of those that are insanely re-watchable and stands the test of time.
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