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Old 06-15-2020, 04:23 PM   #55921
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Old 06-15-2020, 05:51 PM   #55922
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Charlotte's been averaging almost 1 title match every month from the women's side while Rollins has been averaging at least one per month on the men's side.

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Old 06-15-2020, 07:40 PM   #55923
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Not title shots, but title matches... which would include when they were champ defending the belts
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Old 06-15-2020, 07:53 PM   #55924
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My bad, fixed the mistake. Not sure why I kept thinking it was just title shots and not also them defending their belts. Probably because of how many reigns Charlotte has had where she barely defended them successfully.


Meanwhile, seems WWE dropped their plans for the Forgotten Sons since they got pulled again from SD tapings.

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You may have noticed the Forgotten Sons missing in action for the last two weeks. As of Monday morning, they weren't expected to be on the next two episodes of Smackdown either.

The team of Jaxson Ryker, Steve Cutler and Wesley Blake were primed for a push within the WWE Tag Team division, before a pro-Donald Trump tweet landed him in hot water with the locker room. Most of the WWE wrestlers that we've spoken to say that he was well liked ahead of that and very respectful. They also note that Blake and Cutler distanced their stances from his following the tweet, and even came in for a meeting with Mark Carrano, as well as other wrestlers.

However, the vignettes have stopped for the trio. They weren't on the last couple of episodes of Smackdown, and were not figured into plans for the tapings on Monday and Tuesday. The team was originally set to enter a program with New Day, which seems off the table considering Big E and Kofi lost to Cesaro and Shinsuke Nakamura. They could always be called in to film vignettes after the fact, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Based on what we've heard, there's no heat on Wesley Blake or Steve Cutler, but they are catching the backlash from Ryker's tweet. It's worth noting that Ryker hasn't wrestled since the call-up.

Most we've talked to on the roster feel bad that Blake and Cutler are being lumped in with Ryker after the time they put in NXT to get called up.
NXT ref Drake Wuertz (former indie wrestler Drake Younger) is very lucky he didn't catch similar backlash since he also had a very ill timed and tone deaf tweet recently in support of Ryker's controversial tweet.
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Old 06-15-2020, 09:31 PM   #55925
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Anyone that can logically relate Randy Marsh to The Undertaker is to be listened to carefully.
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Old 06-15-2020, 11:58 PM   #55926
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While the focus of that post is a very valid, the writer's validity gets called into question when it refers to Michelle McCool as both "legendary performer" and "architect of the Women's Revolution" with no way to discern if this is sarcastic hyperbole or a thing that the OP wholeheartedly believes.
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Old 06-16-2020, 03:26 AM   #55927
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It sucks for Blake and Cutler. I hope they find something else for them to do.
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Old 06-16-2020, 04:27 AM   #55928
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While the focus of that post is a very valid, the writer's validity gets called into question when it refers to Michelle McCool as both "legendary performer" and "architect of the Women's Revolution" with no way to discern if this is sarcastic hyperbole or a thing that the OP wholeheartedly believes.
I think the sarcasm is pretty clear.
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Old 06-16-2020, 04:36 AM   #55929
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But then I think the OP has misunderstood the documentary. It’s not about how he feels obliged to come back for the fans (although he might tell himself that). It’s about how he’s stuck in this cycle, that he knows he needs to break but, like many before him, he can’t let go.

He goes from “I can’t do this like I used to/disappointed in the match” to “I must redeem myself” to “that was pretty good/I feel good”, then has another stinker (tag match vs. DX, match vs. Goldberg), and the cycle starts again.

Honestly, it’s a pretty sad thing to watch as a fan, but I think McCool comes off pretty well in the doc; she knows she can’t tell him not to, and that he has to reach his own conclusion. She let the guy leave their family weekend at Mania to fly back from New York to Texas to get his gear to do a 5 minute throwaway segment on Raw the night after.
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Old 06-16-2020, 02:00 PM   #55932
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God I wish they would bring back that belt. It's a clean and classic look that never goes out of style.
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Old 06-16-2020, 02:46 PM   #55933
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Old 06-16-2020, 03:31 PM   #55934
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I wouldn’t want to sit in Nassau Coliseum for a wrestling show either. The upper deck seats were ungodly cramped and uncomfortable. Sitting there for three 20-minute periods was hard enough, never mind a 3 hour show.
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Old 06-16-2020, 04:35 PM   #55935
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WWE does have some shitty belts these days. I don’t mind the Raw Women’s. But they could all do with a re-design.
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Old 06-16-2020, 08:32 PM   #55936
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Christian's facial expressions are so good. Pain combined with a "Fuck, I did trust Ric Flair, didn't I?"
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Old 06-17-2020, 12:43 AM   #55938
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I think the sarcasm is pretty clear.
I don't. Mainly because we live in a world where the Bella Twins are going into the HoF and people really believe HHH is one of the greatest of all time in hindsight when his career either setting others up for their moment or a lot of "get off my TV" heat when he was the focus. Some people might actually believe this shit.

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But then I think the OP has misunderstood the documentary. It’s not about how he feels obliged to come back for the fans (although he might tell himself that). It’s about how he’s stuck in this cycle, that he knows he needs to break but, like many before him, he can’t let go.

He goes from “I can’t do this like I used to/disappointed in the match” to “I must redeem myself” to “that was pretty good/I feel good”, then has another stinker (tag match vs. DX, match vs. Goldberg), and the cycle starts again.

Honestly, it’s a pretty sad thing to watch as a fan, but I think McCool comes off pretty well in the doc; she knows she can’t tell him not to, and that he has to reach his own conclusion. She let the guy leave their family weekend at Mania to fly back from New York to Texas to get his gear to do a 5 minute throwaway segment on Raw the night after.
At this point, Taker isn't much different than Terry Funk. Although I don't mean that insultingly, because that's good company... that isn't exactly a compliment, either.
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Old 06-17-2020, 05:03 AM   #55939
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Yep. Definitely in the Funk/Flair territory. Though to be fair, unlike either of those guys, Taker has never actually said he’s retired.
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Also who's forcing this stupid bastard to sit and watch?
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That's how I feel too.

It's a good doc series but I can't 'feel bad' for Taker/Michelle, it's all his own choice.
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Feel the same.

Had the series been just the first episode, it would have been among the best documentaries ever made by WWE. Had the perfect storybook ending for Taker's career and more people would have remembered the defining moment of him leaving with his hat and gear in the ring than the quality of the match itself.

The latter episodes, while good, makes it hard to feel sorry for Taker's dilemma since he's had several chances to redeem himself and go out on his own terms but stubbornly keeps learning the wrong lessons. He's like the Brett Farve of wrestling in that regards.
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Old 06-18-2020, 08:45 AM   #55946
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Feel the same.

Had the series been just the first episode, it would have been among the best documentaries ever made by WWE. Had the perfect storybook ending for Taker's career and more people would have remembered the defining moment of him leaving with his hat and gear in the ring than the quality of the match itself.

The latter episodes, while good, makes it hard to feel sorry for Taker's dilemma since he's had several chances to redeem himself and go out on his own terms but stubbornly keeps learning the wrong lessons. He's like the Brett Farve of wrestling in that regards.
It is what it is though. Yes he should have retired much earlier, but the story is what it is. I guess this all leads to one final match with AJ.
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Old 06-18-2020, 12:48 PM   #55947
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Mustafa Ali was been moved to Raw. He was heavily tipped to be the hacker on SmackDown. Guess they scrapped that.
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Old 06-18-2020, 05:06 PM   #55948
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It is what it is though. Yes he should have retired much earlier, but the story is what it is. I guess this all leads to one final match with AJ.
Would have to be next year though since he sort of already gave it away that the documentary doesn't end with him saying his match at Mania 36 was his last.

He still wants to wrestle again at Mania but won't do so next year if no crowds are around. All depends on what happens with Round 2 of the coronavirus.
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Old 06-18-2020, 06:44 PM   #55949
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So, Corny posted an audio clip of a thing I saw a few years ago, on the Freedom Fighters, Steve and Jim, and Regional Legend Phil Hickerson. Mainly talking up Phil Hickerson, because the guy had some fire to him. He had one of the top 50 lines I have ever heard. And Phil was strong as an Ox.

I wonder what ever happened to ol' Steve and Jim...

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Old 06-18-2020, 06:57 PM   #55950
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Charlotte coming for dat title


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Old 06-18-2020, 07:03 PM   #55951
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Old 06-18-2020, 07:37 PM   #55952
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Charlotte coming for dat title


I'd put money down on Charlotte winning via DQ.

She already has a pin and countout win over Asuka with the only thing missing is a DQ win to complete the trifecta of lame finishes from their matches.
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Old 06-19-2020, 12:14 PM   #55953
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We should prob merge these related posts with the "British wrestlers #MeToo" thread and change the name or something.
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Old 06-19-2020, 12:27 PM   #55954
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Yeah I will do that...
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Old 06-20-2020, 10:44 AM   #55955
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Mike Chioda was on Talk is Jericho this week .

Really interesting interview. Check it out.
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Old 06-20-2020, 10:51 AM   #55956
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Really interested to hear that. Has he quit smoking? Not judging either way.
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Old 06-20-2020, 11:20 AM   #55957
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Lol he doesn't sound like it
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Old 06-20-2020, 01:08 PM   #55958
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That's how I feel too.

It's a good doc series but I can't 'feel bad' for Taker/Michelle, it's all his own choice.
Honestly, I find most wrestling (especially WWE) docs to be the drizzling shits. Even Taker's I was bored within a few minutes.

If you think about it, none of the "revelations" are surprising.

Best one I've seen by far is Beyond the Mat because it wasn't completely sanitized. Though, that's obviously not WWE produced, which is why they hated it, cuz it at least was somewhat honest.
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Old 06-20-2020, 01:19 PM   #55959
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Old 06-20-2020, 04:05 PM   #55960
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