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Old 05-01-2023, 02:16 AM   #1
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World Heavyweight Championship Tournament

As the title suggests, who do you want to see as the first World Heavyweight Champion? The first champion will be crowned at "Night of Champions". Although it's exclusive to the RAW brand, the tournament includes Smackdown superstars.


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Old 05-01-2023, 02:36 AM   #2
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Reigns enters through nefarious means. Wins it. Throws the other two in the trash.
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Old 05-01-2023, 02:42 AM   #3
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Rollins seems like the most obvious choice. Now that Rhodes is on RAW and Reigns is on Smackdown, it doesn't seem like he's going to get another chance at the Undisputed Universal Championship unless he wins the Rumble.

Rhodes winning the World Heavyweight Championship would feel very anticlimactic since his goal was to win the title that alluded his father.
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I was thinking Lashley, but now he is on Smackdown. Maybe it is time they complete the 3 Man Band Trifecta and bring back Heath Slater to win it!

Or Xavier Woods, complete the Unicorn Stampede of all 3 of them winning.
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HHH said it would be a title that will be defended all over the world, any time.

Clearly that means it's finally time for The Truth to be set free.
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They're probably gonna give it to Drew McIntyre.
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I don’t think it really matters. They need a top guy to help establish the belt which is why this is all backwards as you should be using the belt to cement the guy. For this reason you don’t want an Austin Theory type to win it. You don’t want Cody because it’s a shit end to his story. Rollins or Drew are probably your best bets. Maybe Brock if they can get him to do a prolonged run of appearances otherwise it’s just the same deal as Roman.

How the fuck have they managed to book SmackDown guys into this tournament immediately after doing a draft?
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How the fuck have they managed to book SmackDown guys into this tournament immediately after doing a draft?
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Haha glad I stopped watching.
Apparently the “smackdown guys in the Raw championship tournament” was one of the commentators misspeaking. Not sure that’s enough to get you to start watching again but wanted to clarify.
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Apparently the “smackdown guys in the Raw championship tournament” was one of the commentators misspeaking. Not sure that’s enough to get you to start watching again but wanted to clarify.
You're correct. Michael Cole misspoke and Heyman essentially clarified it during his promo on RAW where he suggested that Reigns couldn't compete for the strap since he was exclusive to Smackdown.
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Apparently the “smackdown guys in the Raw championship tournament” was one of the commentators misspeaking. Not sure that’s enough to get you to start watching again but wanted to clarify.
I watched Mania this year and I think I might just do that each year, watching the video packages was the best part although some of the matches were really enjoyable too.
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Apparently the “smackdown guys in the Raw championship tournament” was one of the commentators misspeaking. Not sure that’s enough to get you to start watching again but wanted to clarify.
Or not then.
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Old 05-01-2023, 08:00 AM   #13
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I kinda hope this is all part of a storyline where Reigns is going to steal it/trash it/whatever, which will lead to some kind of storyline where Triple H is trying to get him to defend it more. Or something.
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Old 05-01-2023, 09:09 AM   #14
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I'm trying to think of someone different here. At first I was thinking it's time to give Finn another run...but then it hit me. Have Dom win it and it be the thing that leads to a power struggle between him and Finn for the leadership of Judgement Day.
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Plus Dom and Rhea power couple would be tits.
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Dominic Mysterio World Heavyweight Champion. Oof.
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They realistically should put it on Gunther now that he is on Raw, but I am pretty sure they want him to break the longest reign as IC Champ record, which would be sometime after Summerslam.

I don't think they will want to make McIntyre the first champion unless he signs a new deal.

I think it has to be somebody that hasn't already lost to Reigns multiple times the last 3 years, or they immediately are a consolation champion.

Rollins fits that build, but he would need to become far more serious to be champion.

If Sheamus gets drafted to Raw, he would be a good option as well, and could revisit the fued with Gunther once Gunther drops the IC Title.

A dark horse would be if they have Damien Priest do something truly dastardly to Bad Bunny, like trying to actually cripple the dude, and ride him as a fully unlocked truly evil heel.

I still think Lashley would have been the best choice since he twice lost the WWE title while remaining fully protected, but they sent him to Smackdown.
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Kinda personally hope Orton is involved. I really want him.to break the record.
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* Seth Rollins is knocked out of the tournament by Finn Balor. The two finalists in the Universal Title crowning. Logan Paul costs Seth, setting up a Night of Champions match between the two.

* Cody defeats Drew McIntyre.

* Brock Lesnar defeats Matt Riddle in an actual Raw match.

* Gunther defeats Dominik Mysterio. He’s offered a bye because he’s IC Champ, but refuses to take it and demands to defend his title every step of the way.

* Cody is attacked by Judgment Day. His arm/pec is targeted. JD McDonagh joins Judgment Day and teaches Balor a hold to target Cody’s injury.

* Brock tells Gunther he doesn’t want his shitty IC Title.

* Night of Champions sees Balor beat Cody. Brandi throws in the towel when Balor gets Cody in his new submission. Gunther beats Brock Lesnar in a slobberknocker.

* Judgment Day try to get involved in the main event between Gunther and Balor. Imperium (+ Ilja Dragunov) hit the scene to battle them off. Cody comes in, nails Balor with a steel chair. Gunther wins the title.
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If you want to expand the tournament, Seth can beat Miz, Balor can beat Woods, McIntyre can beat Sheamus, Brock can beat Kofi (who should be back soon), Gunther can beat Dominik first round and Priest second, Priest beats Apollo.
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Rest of Night of Champions:

* Street Profits defeat lWo, Los Lotharios and Shelton Benjamin/Cedric Alexander in a Tag Team Showcase. Ziggler & Ali jump them after the match.

* Braun Strowman/Ricochet/Liv Morgan/Raquel Rodriguez defeat Alpha Academy/Alba Fyre/Isla Dawn for bragging rights. Braun presses Raquel onto everybody at some point.

* Rhea Ripley defeats Shayna Baszler w/ Ronda Rousey to retain the SmackDown Women’s Titlr. Rhea wants Ronda, who looks like she considers it, then backs down.

* Bobby Lashley defeats Austin Theory to retain the US Title. Lashley wins the US Title at Backlash, pinning Bronson Reed. Theory tries to get Reed onside by promising him a shot at the belt if he helps him beat Lashley. Reed fools Theory’s attempt to cheat at NoC and Lashley gets Theory in The Hurt Lock for the win. Theory yells at Reed after the match and gets laid out and Splashed.

* Mansoor defeats The Miz. MMM reject Miz, who takes offense to set this up.

* Logan Paul defeats Seth Rollins with help from Omos.

* Bianca Belair vs. Becky Lynch vs. Trish Stratus vs. Indi Hartwell - 2 Fall Match. 1st is NXT title, 2nd Raw. Trish hits Becky with a Chick Kick while Becky has Indi in the Dis-Arm-Her. Trish pins Becky to win NXT title. Becky pins Trish to win the Raw title, exiling Bianca from the show and making her SmackDown full-time.

* Edge/Owens/Zayn/Rey defeat The Bloodline. Edge returns and declares his intent to capture the Universal Title. This is elimination rules. Solo gets himself disqualified when it goes 20 minutes deep and there is no one gone. Zayn kicks out of whatever is done to him and tags in Owens. Stunner, Helluva Kick, Spear and Frog Splash ends Jey Uso. Owens is pinned after a Frog Splash is countered with knees and he’s cradled by Jimmy Uso. Rey is distracted by Jimmy and Reigns Spears him to eliminate him. Edge then Spears Reigns out of nowhere to hand Reigns his 1st pin in however many years. Jimmy Uso manages to find a way to eliminate Edge. Zayn gets Jimmy in the Koji Clutch for the submission.
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I just realized that Belair has been the RAW Women's Champion for over a year at this point. It would be absolutely mental to have her lose the title just because she moved to a new brand.
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But even more mental to have them swap the belts again.
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Old 05-01-2023, 05:46 PM   #27
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I wonder if Rhea will just drop her belt on the ground like Charlotte did
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How do they get out of this situation?

Another belt swap? Ergh.
Have Bianca drop to IYO and Rhea drop to Zelina? That’s a year + reign ended and someone’s momentum halted.
Rebrand the belts: WWE Women’s Champion and Women’s World Heavyweight Championship? Do women even tend to have a heavyweight division?

See if they’d not invented this new men’s belt they could have just done a unification and had a Men’s, Women’s and Tag champ(s) that go between brands.

It’s like they enjoy tripping themselves up.
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How do they get out of this situation?

Another belt swap? Ergh.
Have Bianca drop to IYO and Rhea drop to Zelina? That’s a year + reign ended and someone’s momentum halted.
Rebrand the belts: WWE Women’s Champion and Women’s World Heavyweight Championship? Do women even tend to have a heavyweight division?

See if they’d not invented this new men’s belt they could have just done a unification and had a Men’s, Women’s and Tag champ(s) that go between brands.

It’s like they enjoy tripping themselves up.
Oof. Looks like it’s not the first time it’s been suggested. Noid using my ideas like HHH uses the (3 x Booker of the Year) Tony Khan playbook.
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Just have them defend their belt on that show until they lose them, then they go to the show they were drafted to.
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Just have them defend their belt on that show until they lose them, then they go to the show they were drafted to.
Guess that’s a nice loop hole to have some of the top stars go between brands.
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Just realised IYO got drafted to SmackDowm so even if she did defeat Bianca we’d still be in the same situation.
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Another option is to have the lineages jump with the champs, give them new belts and change the name of the titles. Rhea’s SmackDown Women’s Championship becomes the Women’s World Title, Bianca’s Raw Women’s Title becomes the Women’s Universal Championship.
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That's a sound and reasonable solution.

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That’s almost what I said. Good job.
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Point of the idea isn’t to be innovative anyway. I’m pretty sure I suggest it every draft lol.
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I just spat out a random 32-man tournament using the names on Raw. You can get some pretty fresh stuff going with some surprising match-ups. It does end up face-heavy, but I kind of used Drew as a spoiler for that. He knocked out Braun Strowman and Kevin Owens. Nakamura, Rollins and Miz are all big names I had going out first round. I managed to get Apollo Crews, Odyssey Jones and Riddick Moss through to the second round by winning some lower seeded matches. Gable also went out first round, unfortunately.

The big stories were Dominik going deep. He ended up making the semi-finals against Cody. Gunther and Drew was the other semi-final. It ended up being between Gunther and Cody for the big gold. I think that plays off their Rumble finish.

Kofi was back for my tournament. He and Woods both won in the first round and were then seeded against each other in a friendly match-up. Kofi won that and Woods seems conflicted. Kofi actually had a pretty good tournament.

Zayn and Riddle getting knocked out earlier than you think would be a bit of a shocker. Zany beat Jinder, but then had Gunther as a tough next opponent, who becomes the man to beat. Riddle beats JD McDonagh then Ciampa (who beat Gargano as a surprise opponent for Johnny, but I’ve got no clue if he’s ready.

It was just shot off the top of my dome, but I think it’d be nice to give some of the “extras” on Raw some time to shine, with some of the top guys having tougher matches and storyline reasons to be knocked out. I don’t think anyone looks like a real joke. I did have Reed getting counted out against Odyssey Jones in a first round battle of the big men, but he can be nursing an “injury” from his US Title match.
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That being said, I can’t be completely engaged with this roster split. I find myself largely “not caring.” It diminishes everything. Ugh.
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I did have the thought: If Gunther vs. Sheamus is added, they could keep the US and IC Titles situated by having Sheamus “complete his story” against Gunther and Bronson Reed win the US belt. I’m not the biggest fan of having Gunther lose, but I did just propose he win the World Title and vacate the IC belt, so I guess it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world if you’re planning on moving Gunther up to main event status.
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There’s a guy who apparently has insight into what’s going on. He was right on the money with the San Juan Street Fight between Priest and Bad Bunny (I would have called a tag with Rey and Dominik). He says Bray Wyatt is coming back. Fuck.
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