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Old 01-27-2020, 11:59 PM   #1801
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Marty Scurll showed up at tonight's show in North Carolina and challenged Jay White to a match at Supercard of Honor.
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Old 01-28-2020, 08:08 PM   #1802
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So either NJPW got hit with some bad luck or someone put a Papa Shango curse on their USA tour.

Fourth time this past week something has gone terribly wrong for the tour.

Ibushi got very ill right before the tour started, Fredericks got hurt on Sunday, Monday's show had a concessions issue, and Nagata revealed today that he recently suffered a neck injury.
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Old 01-30-2020, 04:40 AM   #1803
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Oh man, a neck injury at Nagata's age is not good.
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Old 01-30-2020, 08:42 PM   #1804
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Apparently NJPW had been in talks with MSG regarding them holding an event there this year but those talks seem to have ended after NJPW lost their tv deal in the US and WWE pulling a power play in order to lock out other promotions from the venue.

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We do know that MSG and New Japan were at one point talking about a summer date but that appears to have fallen through as noted by NJPW not announcing any major arena U.S. shows on 1/5 at the Dome when they did the underwhelming schedule announcement. There is a lot of talk that WWE has managed to lock up the building by promising more and better dates. Vince has a thing, because of his father where MSG was the big arena historically for the company, that he’s more adamant about nobody else ever getting in.
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Old 01-30-2020, 08:44 PM   #1805
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Sinclair could probably help them open it back up.
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Old 01-30-2020, 09:23 PM   #1806
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Doubt Sinclair would care since the relationship between ROH and NJPW is still pretty shaky even with Scurll's attempts to improve the relationship partially due to personal reasons.

Only reason Sinclair got involved with the G1 Supercard show was due to WWE's attempts to wreck the show which would have damaged ROH finances. They still holdg a grudge against WWE for trying to raid ROH talent via illegal means and using the NXT brand as their attack dog to hurt ROH.

Based on past sheets and interviews from ROH's COO, seems ROH isn't that fond of NJPW running shows in the US, especially since some of those shows are in ROH hotbed areas and competing against ROH shows. Also despite the demise of their tv deal in the US, NJPW still is in no rush to use ROH talent for their shows and have been loaning out talent for Mania weekend shows mostly just to maintain their presence in the US.

This year's Best of the Super Jrs tournament will be a good indication if that ROH-NJPW relationship improved or not depending if or who from ROH gets invited.
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Old 01-31-2020, 07:24 AM   #1807
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Was looking over the upcoming schedule and barring any surprising results from the New Beginning tour Naito could be set for an interesting year. He will face Hiromu at the anniversary show then his next challenger will be the winner of the New Japan Cup. If SANADA follows his pattern of getting one step further each year, he should win the Cup this year. I'm sure that would then "rile up" EVIL enough to challenge and then Shingo won't be left out either. Clearly building to Naito vs BUSHI in the dome.

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Apparently NJPW had been in talks with MSG regarding them holding an event there this year but those talks seem to have ended after NJPW lost their tv deal in the US and WWE pulling a power play in order to lock out other promotions from the venue.
Would have been cool if NJPW got the Garden to themselves. But figures that WWE would muscle in and shut them down since they're back at MSG at a regular basis. The no TV deal also hurts, but not so much.

Which makes me wonder if they'll go somewhere else. Perhaps try Boston. Or go halfway and go to Connecticut and pull both markets . Philly too is a possibility.

If their run through New England back at the end of Summer was any indicator, they'll sell out up here. Anywhere else might be tricky. Speaking of which, how'd the New Beginning tour in the South do for attendance?
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Would have been cool if NJPW got the Garden to themselves. But figures that WWE would muscle in and shut them down since they're back at MSG at a regular basis. The no TV deal also hurts, but not so much.

Which makes me wonder if they'll go somewhere else. Perhaps try Boston. Or go halfway and go to Connecticut and pull both markets . Philly too is a possibility.

If their run through New England back at the end of Summer was any indicator, they'll sell out up here. Anywhere else might be tricky. Speaking of which, how'd the New Beginning tour in the South do for attendance?


There's no way New Japan sell out MSG without the help of ROH and some big stars and big hype at the right time of year. WrestleMania weekend had wrestling fans everywhere and the novelty of being other promotions in Vince's venue.
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Old 01-31-2020, 07:19 PM   #1811
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Seems Chase Owens is leaving NJPW since he mentioned his contract expires after today but won't potentially be leaving till after tomorrow since that is when NJPW's current US tour ends.

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He's working the Osaka show on the 9th too and was working a little angle with Ibushi (before Ibushi got sick) based on them teaming up together during the Elite split from Bullet Club. If he is actually leaving I think they will be giving him a send off there.

Note sure why he would leave though unless hes received a big money offer from somewhere. The question then is: why would anybody offer Chase Owens big money? Dude could probably have a steady job for life with New Japan, maybe he wants to spend more time with his family but then why not stay on for the US tours? They need bodies there. Maybe he thinks he could go higher? I dont see it but I do like him in his role as an overconfident lower card mook.
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Chase Owens is the Crown Jewel

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He's working the Osaka show on the 9th too and was working a little angle with Ibushi (before Ibushi got sick) based on them teaming up together during the Elite split from Bullet Club. If he is actually leaving I think they will be giving him a send off there.

Note sure why he would leave though unless hes received a big money offer from somewhere. The question then is: why would anybody offer Chase Owens big money? Dude could probably have a steady job for life with New Japan, maybe he wants to spend more time with his family but then why not stay on for the US tours? They need bodies there. Maybe he thinks he could go higher? I dont see it but I do like him in his role as an overconfident lower card mook.
Probably simply feels like Lance Archer where he just wants to go in a new direction for his career.

After Trent Beretta left, think NJPW gave Trent's planned push to Chase but that didn't really work out or materialize the way both sides expected by now.
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Owens ended up revealing he recently signed a new multi-year contract with NJPW so last night's stuff was just him playing things up for the drama.

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Moxley & Okada vs. Suzuki & Taichi match at New Beginning Sapporo Night 1 was great. Next weekend's Moxley vs. Suzuki match is going to be amazing based on what those two did tonight.

The post-match stuff was just pure brutality from the other 2 in the match.
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Taichi pretty much utterly destroyed Okada albeit with some help from Zack Sabre Jr.

Taichi even started doing Suzuki style laughs near the end of it.
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Add El Desperado to the ever growing list of people who can do a spear better than Edge.

Just busted one out against YOH during the IGWP Jr Tag title match at tonight's New Beginning show in Osaka.
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Taguchi convincing Rocky to team up and go after Roppongi 3K's jr tag belts was pretty cool.

at the team name being the Mega Coaches.

Only 2 matches into the card and New Beginning in Osaka is already shaping up into being upper tier quality for NJPW shows this year.
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NJPW confirmed they are returning to MSG.

Wrestling Dynasty event on August 22nd.
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I will be there certainly.
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Old 02-09-2020, 03:16 AM   #1824
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I really hope they keep ROH out of it. But I doubt that will happen.
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I really hope they keep ROH out of it. But I doubt that will happen.
Meltzer mentioned in this week's Newsletter that they want to run the show by themselves but could see Marty Scurll potentially be there as a ROH rep since he wants to keep the door open to NJPW for himself.
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Meltzer mentioned in this week's Newsletter that they want to run the show by themselves but could see Marty Scurll potentially be there as a ROH rep since he wants to keep the door open to NJPW for himself.
I'm okay with 1-2 matches featuring ROH talent.
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SANADA's lucky he didn't suffer a serious neck injury.

Was bad enough that right after he took a snap suplex that also boinked his head.
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Holy shit at the chests of Hiromu and Ryu Lee. Both starting to turn a shade of purple after like over 5 minutes of just chest massacring chops.
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Yeup this might be the craziest match I've seen since Moxley vs Omega at AEW Full Gear and its only been around 10 minutes soo far.
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Lee vs. Takahashi is right up there with this year's Wrestle Kingdom's IWGP Heavyweight and IC matches in terms of greatness.
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Suzuki might have officially snapped.

Moxley vs. Suzuki has been great soo far. Expected a nice brutal brawl and its delivered big time.
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Next US Heavyweight title match is going to be weird based on the pairing.

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Zack Sabre Jr who specializes in chain wrestling and submissions
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Holy shit, Naito got busted open badly.
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KENTA vs. Naito was great. Started off slow but the latter half of the match was amazing.

Last 3 matches were amazing and must watch tier quality.
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I wonder if Mox or Jericho will be on the WRESTLING DYNASTY at MSG?
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I’m definitely going to that. With G1 having to be later in the year I think this might be their big event for the summer and I’d expect it to be the whole crew or close to it.
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New Japan probably had help to get into the Garden from Sinclair. Reading between the lines, this is a further sign of the New Japan/ROH relationship being strong, and Sinclair being willing to break bank.

Could see Wrestle Dynasty being a permanent edition to their calendar. I hope they treat it like a Wrestle Kingdom-sized event.
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I wonder if Mox or Jericho will be on the WRESTLING DYNASTY at MSG?
My first thought was “no,” since AEW retain NA rights to them, but I could see Tony Khan being pushed over into letting them work it to try and “build the bridge,” even if it ultimately goes nowhere.
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Glad we have experts like Noid here to show Meltzer how to dish out the cold hard facts.

Absolutely no way this is going to be a permanent addition, it takes place during what would be the regular G1 schedule, which has been pushed back this year due to the Olympics. Nothing suggests ROH has any involvement in this show and that's a good thing since general consensus is that ROH shit the bed last time. As a card I'd guess it would be on the level of King of Pro Wrestling since that's what its effectively replacing (same as MSG Super Card replacing Sakura Genesis last year), meaning we can expect a lot of title defences but nothing is going to have any huge ramifications on WK since the G1 hasn't happened yet.

Can't see Mox or Jericho being involved, but that relationship could always change between now and then.
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