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Old 06-19-2020, 02:26 PM   #81
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Not sure if WWE should be happy or not that Carmella is randomly trending due to the dirt people found out about her although its way more tamer than the stuff going around elsewhere in wresting.

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I heard the apparent clip that is being talked about dumbasses are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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Old 06-19-2020, 02:50 PM   #82
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I don't like to often go against the victims, but the Riddle acquisition is a different situation.

This girl was cheating willingly with a married man, posted some edited/cropped screenshots, and according to her, Riddle assaulted her while he was driving a van with 3 other wrestlers who were asleep. So while this assault is going on not a single one of them woke up?

No, she gave him a consensual blowjob because she didn't want to have sex with other people in the car, her words.

Also, she continued the relationship for up to a year after that??

I am sorry, even if it happened like she said, they continued to have a consensual relationship by all accounts well past that day. Just because dude ended the affair doesn't mean previous consensual acts are suddenly sexual assualt.

It's the same thing Chris Hardwick's ex tried, and AMC cleared him fairly quickly. Even if the act is degrading, if you are a willing participant you can't change your mind years after the fact.

I'm all for holding people accountable, but something being ok enough enough to do at the time, again her words, she choose to do one sexual act instead of another, should not be able to change after the fact cause dude wouldn't leave his wife for her.
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Old 06-19-2020, 03:27 PM   #83
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Did you skip past the bit where she claims he grabbed her by the throat?
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Can someone get Austin added to the list.
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Austin only beat women, so unless he honked a titty while doing it, it is off topic!
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Isn’t Devlin on the list for “just” domestic violence?
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Did you skip past the bit where she claims he grabbed her by the throat?
No, again maybe that was a part of their relationship. Why is it only an issue way after the fact. I know people don't come forward until later a lot of the time, but this was a man she continued seeing. It's just a much harder sell, they were in a relationship, then it was an issue only after it ended.
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Isn’t Devlin on the list for “just” domestic violence?
Is there a full list I've only seen bits and pieces around... wonder if there is a wiki on this yet.
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Wrestling has always evaded this sort of scrutiny. Probably a combination of it being filled with workers and going under the radar. Most of the names popping up don’t surprise me. Heartbroken if the Cornette stuff is true, but he’s apparently already on the phone to Stephen P. New, haha. I haven’t gone down the fill rabbit-hole, but the corroborating story comes from a guy with one or no legs who claims he was approached, turned them down, then headlined OVW shows. Is there someone else? Because it sounds like this guy wasn’t pressured into doing anything. His main beef seems to be that Cornette trashed legless wrestlers, but I actually seem to recall him putting over a guy named “Michael Hayes” who worked without legs because he was able to do so believable. Even sexual allegations misquote Cornette.
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Joey Ryan was named somewhere, and can we talk for a moment about how getting paid employees to touch your dick publicly is very obviously shitty?
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Wrestling has always evaded this sort of scrutiny. Probably a combination of it being filled with workers and going under the radar. Most of the names popping up don’t surprise me. Heartbroken if the Cornette stuff is true, but he’s apparently already on the phone to Stephen P. New, haha. I haven’t gone down the fill rabbit-hole, but the corroborating story comes from a guy with one or no legs who claims he was approached, turned them down, then headlined OVW shows. Is there someone else? Because it sounds like this guy wasn’t pressured into doing anything. His main beef seems to be that Cornette trashed legless wrestlers, but I actually seem to recall him putting over a guy named “Michael Hayes” who worked without legs because he was able to do so believable. Even sexual allegations misquote Cornette.


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No, again maybe that was a part of their relationship. Why is it only an issue way after the fact. I know people don't come forward until later a lot of the time, but this was a man she continued seeing. It's just a much harder sell, they were in a relationship, then it was an issue only after it ended.
There’s definitely “murky water” around some of these circumstances, and the “power dynamic” in relationships can lead to some questions being asked, as it is in a lot of these cases. Being in a relationship doesn’t mean you can just do wtf you like, some people end up in violent/abusive relationships for years before they conjure the courage to leave, or kill their partner, or often end up dead themselves before they get there.
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There’s definitely “murky water” around some of these circumstances, and the “power dynamic” in relationships can lead to some questions being asked, as it is in a lot of these cases. Being in a relationship doesn’t mean you can just do wtf you like, some people end up in violent/abusive relationships for years before they conjure the courage to leave, or kill their partner, or often end up dead themselves before they get there.
Definitely very true. There are power dynamics in all sorts of relationships. There’s obviously domestic abuse and control, that sort of thing, but there are external power dynamics too. If you are an employer, you shouldn’t be having sex with employees. It’s just way too dicey. Fame also comes with power.
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Personally, I believe the wrestlers I like are being falsely accused and deserve to have their accusations face heavy scrutiny.

However, the wrestlers I don’t like absolutely did it and should be banned for life.

Thank you.
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And I join Slik in praying Kip and Finn make it through this unscathed.

Fandango too.
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Investigate them all. But even if Joey Ryan turns out to be innocent, he should still be blackballed.
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Fandango is pure, concentrated sex, so I’m not sure if he can even be put on trial for human crimes.
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We already covered that Trips. C’mon man!
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UK police supposedly investigating all claims and now telling anybody who hasn’t shared stories to go right to the police so as to not risk jeopardizing the case.

Because as we all know, pigs take domestic violence/sexual assault accusations so seriously.
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I don’t think it’s so much about the profile pic being new as the screenshot being old. The message says “today.” The earlier ones say 2017 though. They’ve obviously gone back through their messages as opposed to the screenshot being old.
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UK police supposedly investigating all claims and now telling anybody who hasn’t shared stories to go right to the police so as to not risk jeopardizing the case.

Because as we all know, pigs take domestic violence accusations so seriously.
I don’t think the police are going to be ready for that workload.
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I don’t think it’s so much about the profile pic being new as the screenshot being old. The message says “today.” The earlier ones say 2017 though. They’ve obviously gone back through their messages as opposed to the screenshot being old.
Yep. Shame JC didn’t know that before his “gotcha” tweet.
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Interesting that Cornette’s response seems to imply that it is fake though. Like, he obviously thinks that either it’s not true or there isn’t enough evidence of a genuine conversation. I guess if there was something to it, what else would you say (if you were going to say something)? But it’s weird he thought this would be a “gotcha!” moment.
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Yep. Shame JC didn’t know that before his “gotcha” tweet.
Oh yeah. People just go on about the profile pic though. I think it was more that the dialogue was recent in some contexts, so it’s possible that the idea of this being an “old screenshot” would have been what set off that.

But Cornette isn’t a big internet guy outside his business and Twitter, so it’s possible Stacey just said “Look, that’s my new photo” and Jim didn’t understand how Facebook works, haha.
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Old 06-19-2020, 05:16 PM   #107
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It’ll be devastating if more OVW stories come out. Lots of talk about lots of people knowing something, but so far the only people I can find talking are the guy with no legs (who basically says it didn’t affect his career) and The Bolins who...well...

If there’s anything to this, it’s going to be a tense few days for the Cornettes, because those stories are going to start coming out.
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Wrestling has always evaded this sort of scrutiny. Probably a combination of it being filled with workers and going under the radar. Most of the names popping up don’t surprise me. Heartbroken if the Cornette stuff is true, but he’s apparently already on the phone to Stephen P. New, haha. I haven’t gone down the fill rabbit-hole, but the corroborating story comes from a guy with one or no legs who claims he was approached, turned them down, then headlined OVW shows. Is there someone else? Because it sounds like this guy wasn’t pressured into doing anything. His main beef seems to be that Cornette trashed legless wrestlers, but I actually seem to recall him putting over a guy named “Michael Hayes” who worked without legs because he was able to do so believable. Even sexual allegations misquote Cornette.

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Hard to comment on these things. Statistically false claims are rare. People often don't go to police because they're not always helpful and because this shit does mess with your compass. The fact her life seems like a mess makes her more susceptible to this sort of shit, yet people are going to talk about her credibility. Just a gross mess.
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We already covered that Trips. C’mon man!
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Blah, blah, blah, I’m shit.
First of all, you are a completely worthless cunt. This has already been established.

Second of all, what’s even the point there? What about those posts is even contradictory?

Thirdly, you seem obsessed with me. Don’t make me need a hashtag for you, creep. #TworuDave
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Individuals are responsible for their own personal actions. WWE has zero tolerance for matters involving domestic violence, child abuse and sexual assault. Upon arrest for such misconduct, a WWE talent will be immediately suspended. Upon conviction for such misconduct, a WWE talent will be immediately terminated.

WWE’s ability to fine, suspend or terminate a WWE talent will not be, however, limited or compromised in any manner in the event incontrovertible evidence of such illegal misconduct is presented to WWE.
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Old 06-19-2020, 05:33 PM   #114
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Did this lawyer really print an official statement meant to be shared worldwide by a famous celebrity on a sheet of label paper?

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Add Jack Gallagher's name to the growing pile of accused.



The joke tweet earlier about NXT UK being down to just 4 guys after this is all done might end up being true with the way things are going since Gallagher worked there a few times.

Also can probably remove Tyler Bate from the list since his accusations mostly boil down to him trying to hook up with a random girl at a bar who already had a boyfriend. He tried to push his luck by asking for sex, got told off, and that was pretty much the end of that story.
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First of all, you are a completely worthless cunt. This has already been established.

Second of all, what’s even the point there? What about those posts is even contradictory?

Thirdly, you seem obsessed with me. Don’t make me need a hashtag for you, creep. #TworuDave


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Personally, I believe the wrestlers I like are being falsely accused and deserve to have their accusations face heavy scrutiny.

However, the wrestlers I don’t like absolutely did it and should be banned for life.

Thank you.

I believe it should be based on workrate.

It's like the whole Arn Anderson v Sid stabbing incident. Let's be honest, people side with Arn because he's a better wrestler, even though both were equally at fault.
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What is it about the UK? Was this Brexit?
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Interesting statement from WWE. More of a “this is what we’re going to do and when we’re going to do it” response than their usual ones.
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