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Old 10-12-2018, 10:45 PM   #2281
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I can explain why the Impact viewership is down. Internet wrestling fans are nerds. We live in a bubble. We talk to each other and reverberate the same, often completely misguided, opinions to each other. There are people who thought the "Woken" Matt Hardy stuff would be huge. Why? Because nerds on the nerdiest corners of the wrestling's internet forums liked it, because they have been brow-beat into liking shit just because it's not the bland vanilla they are being served up by WWE.

But they confuse dog shit with chocolate. All the time. "Broken" Matt fucking SUCKED. He was a weird-sounded goof with putting on a weird voice saying words over and over again playing with a drone. It was bush league as fuck and the only people who like that sort of thing are the only people who like that sort of thing. Wrestling nerds. Some of them are in the business, some of them are on the message boards, but NO ONE outside that cares.

Impact Wrestling SUCKS. It is awful. It has been that way for years, and it was that way when it was officially TNA, and the combined efforts of the brain trust over there literally -- fuck, not even decimated, that means destroying 1 in 10 -- they destroyed 9 in 10 of their fans. And it is awful now. Eddie Edwards and Sami Callihan had a fight to Final Cut Pro mood music. It's bush league. Hey, just like Broken Matt Hardy. That worked though, right? Wrong. They had about 300,000 viewers then, and all the people it appealed to never made a damn bit of difference. By the way, The Hardy Boyz return at WrestleMania 33 and that YouTube video has more hits in a hour than all of the Broken stuff ever got put together.

We live in a bubble. We get excited about stuff. It's cute. But it does not reflect reality. TNA is still fucking terrible. It's still burning out its audience and it still has no clue what it really wants to be, and the stuff it is sure about SUCKS. Eli Drake, Sami Callihan and Eddie Edwards, Moose, Don Callis on commentary (probably) -- it's awful. I saw one YouTube clip and it made me want to punch my computer it was that bad. And when people watch that on TV, they think "Oh, this is fucking awful. Isn't wrestling a waste of time," and they turn off their TV.

TL;DR: TNA is losing viewers because it continues to suck. Bad television turns people off.
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Old 10-12-2018, 10:49 PM   #2282
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Fucking Vince Russo with a new podcast. I liked Matt Koon enough too. "It was all about getting ratings, bro!" How did that go for ya, you fucking dumb cunt?
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Old 10-13-2018, 12:41 AM   #2283
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I can explain why the Impact viewership is down. Internet wrestling fans are nerds. We live in a bubble. We talk to each other and reverberate the same, often completely misguided, opinions to each other. There are people who thought the "Woken" Matt Hardy stuff would be huge. Why? Because nerds on the nerdiest corners of the wrestling's internet forums liked it, because they have been brow-beat into liking shit just because it's not the bland vanilla they are being served up by WWE.

But they confuse dog shit with chocolate. All the time. "Broken" Matt fucking SUCKED. He was a weird-sounded goof with putting on a weird voice saying words over and over again playing with a drone. It was bush league as fuck and the only people who like that sort of thing are the only people who like that sort of thing. Wrestling nerds. Some of them are in the business, some of them are on the message boards, but NO ONE outside that cares.

Impact Wrestling SUCKS. It is awful. It has been that way for years, and it was that way when it was officially TNA, and the combined efforts of the brain trust over there literally -- fuck, not even decimated, that means destroying 1 in 10 -- they destroyed 9 in 10 of their fans. And it is awful now. Eddie Edwards and Sami Callihan had a fight to Final Cut Pro mood music. It's bush league. Hey, just like Broken Matt Hardy. That worked though, right? Wrong. They had about 300,000 viewers then, and all the people it appealed to never made a damn bit of difference. By the way, The Hardy Boyz return at WrestleMania 33 and that YouTube video has more hits in a hour than all of the Broken stuff ever got put together.

We live in a bubble. We get excited about stuff. It's cute. But it does not reflect reality. TNA is still fucking terrible. It's still burning out its audience and it still has no clue what it really wants to be, and the stuff it is sure about SUCKS. Eli Drake, Sami Callihan and Eddie Edwards, Moose, Don Callis on commentary (probably) -- it's awful. I saw one YouTube clip and it made me want to punch my computer it was that bad. And when people watch that on TV, they think "Oh, this is fucking awful. Isn't wrestling a waste of time," and they turn off their TV.

TL;DR: TNA is losing viewers because it continues to suck. Bad television turns people off.
You act as if this company is trying to beat WWE at something. Of course a video posted by WWE is going to get more views than Impact's. You're wrong when you say they don't know what they want to be, a year ago I would have agreed but they've found an identity this year. They've focused on being an alternative which is how it should have always been.
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Your Impact thread proves nothing. I bet it's mainly you talking to yourself. Selling tickets and doing live events is the bare minimum a wrestling promotion could do. I bet you they are even attended by a few hundred of the same people. Let's give them 1,000 (reports indicate 350 for a taping, but whatever). They sell tickets at $50 and run four times a week. That's $208,000 a year off ticket sales alone! That's more than $1 a viewer! These guys are clearly killing it!

What does "rebounded" even mean? They are still on Pop TV, still have no viewers, still have no interest and still have Eli Drake. It's TNA. It's beyond a joke at this point. Let it die so John Morrison goes back to WWE and...well, I think he's the only person I give a shit about there. Well, maybe Scarlett Bordeaux.
A year ago it was but there have been more posters poping in and talking about the show this year. Hell, Jordan X is going to BFG. As I've said they're not doing big numbers but they're making some money this year when in previous years they weren't.

As Ive also said you really don't understand how bad 2017 was. The lone bright spot for the company last year was Eli Drake. With your opinion of Eli Drake just think about that.
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Old 10-13-2018, 04:50 AM   #2285
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No, I'm not trying to act like the company is trying to beat WWE at anything. I'm saying that internet fans blow its effectiveness as an "active" entity to proportions it is not. We will see how many paid attendance and PPV buys or whatever BFG gets. And we'll see how long this "money" experiment lasts, because running on fumes and the goodwill towards The Jackyl is not going to last forever.

And how bad 2017 was has nothing to do with how LolTNA it is in 2018. You know what's sad? It could even get good and it'd be interesting to see if it even makes a difference. Faith has been broken. TNA has well and truly jumped the shark. I'm sure Callis tries and gets Jericho in to reciprocate lending talent for the cruise and because they're buds, if Jericho can get away with it because New Japan and Vince McMahon both still hate their guts. Well, Vince might be easing up now that they are a complete non-factor. But I imagine that gets no higher than 300,000 viewers, and the moment it reminds them that they are TNA, they will tune out.
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Old 10-13-2018, 12:57 PM   #2287
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Is selling out a 1,200 seat theater for your "biggest show of the year" really an accomplishment and indicator of "improvement" or "success" when your company has been around for some 15+ years?
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It is when the past few year they've been in Orlando not selling tickets at all. Trying to be WWE hurt the company so bad they were just filming 3 months of TV at a time and having 2 PPVs in the Impact Zone. Going back on the road and selling tickets has added so much more to the atmosphere around the their shows.
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My Imoact thread alone is proof more people are interested. They've been way more successful this year than in years past, did you not read the part about selling tickets and doing live events. I'm not saying their doing big numbers but the company has rebounded and are headed in the right direction.
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Welp. There you have it. Dale has decided that Noid is the deciderer on this issue. /Thread
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they shouldn't try because Noid doesn't like them.
Nobody would be trying if we're going by what Noid likes.
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Welp. There you have it. Dale has decided that Noid is the deciderer on this issue. /Thread
I was just reaffirming what everybody already knew :-) #TeamToxicEngaged
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Is selling out a 1,200 seat theater for your "biggest show of the year" really an accomplishment and indicator of "improvement" or "success" when your company has been around for some 15+ years?


Like, I'm glad people are enjoying their wrestling. Whatever. But don't shove it down my throat as something that is changing the game when they manage to sell 1,200 tickets. They should have been doing this right from the start. That is seriously the least a wrestling promotion could do.
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Like, I'm glad people are enjoying their wrestling. Whatever. But don't shove it down my throat as something that is changing the game when they manage to sell 1,200 tickets. They should have been doing this right from the start. That is seriously the least a wrestling promotion could do.
Who's said they were changing the game or shoving it down your throat? I've said they've went back to the basics and its worked for them.
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Who's said they were changing the game or shoving it down your throat? I've said they've went back to the basics and its worked for them.
No, it's not. They're losing viewers and just got bumped to a later time slot. That's exactly my point.
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Attendance was down for Impact at the same venue. They couldn't get people hooked enough to come back.
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Attendance was down for Impact at the same venue. They couldn't get people hooked enough to come back.
First time they have done that venue. What are you talking about?
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No, it's not. They're losing viewers and just got bumped to a later time slot. That's exactly my point.
As I've said TV ratings don't mran as much anymore. Its MLB playoff and Thursday Night Football season, rating isn't going to be good. I also don't think they will be back with Pop which could be a reason for the timeslot change.

No doubt that ratings have a say in something but its not the be all end all anymore. If Pop drops them and they have nowhere to go than they'd have reason to be concerned. That's a possibility but Pop has been good to them and I imagine they'll give them time to shop around. I realize the ratings are low but that doesn't mean the product is bad. People have been turned off by the company in the past but if the current administration just said the hell with it they'd already sold the company by now. They've been committed to creating their own brand with thier own identity that can work with any company including WWE.

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First time they have done that venue. What are you talking about?
No it's not. They ran it the night before. You were saying how they "sold out." Not so much for Impact.

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As I've said TV ratings don't mran as much anymore. Its MLB playoff and Thursday Night Football season, rating isn't going to be good. I also don't think they will be back with Pop which could be a reason for the timeslot change.

No doubt that ratings have a say in something but its not the be all end all anymore. If Pop drops them and they have nowhere to go than they'd have reason to be concerned. That's a possibility but Pop has been good to them and I imagine they'll give them time to shop around. I realize the ratings are low but that doesn't mean the product is bad. People have been turned off by the company in the past but if the current administration just said the hell with it they'd already sold the company by now. They've been committed to creating their own brand with thier own identity that can work with any company including WWE.

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Ratings absolutely do mean something when you're only getting <200,000 people and it causes the station to move you to a later time slot. We're not talking about WWE hovering around 2.5 and 2.4 million viewers like they did for a while there. They're continuing to slip when there's barely any meat on their bones.

I've always disliked the argument of "Well, there's something better on." That's a problem. Of course major events are going to cut into ratings a little bit, but the problem is that TNA just can't get eyeballs and can't keep the eyeballs it has on its product. Sometimes great shows aren't ratings successes, but when you've got an audience and you can't keep it, then it's not working. There's not much else to it besides that.

I'm sure everybody is working hard, and that Don Callis, Scott D'Amore and Ed Nordholm or whatever his name is do care deeply about what they're doing. But it doesn't change the fact that it's not working. I don't know what working with other companies has to do with anything. That's something, like charging for tickets, TNA should have been doing years and years ago. And they've had the opportunity and burnt bridges and burnt their audience. They're "nice guys" now, but let's see how it all transpires.
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No it's not. They ran it the night before. You were saying how they "sold out." Not so much for Impact.



Ratings absolutely do mean something when you're only getting <200,000 people and it causes the station to move you to a later time slot. We're not talking about WWE hovering around 2.5 and 2.4 million viewers like they did for a while there. They're continuing to slip when there's barely any meat on their bones.

I've always disliked the argument of "Well, there's something better on." That's a problem. Of course major events are going to cut into ratings a little bit, but the problem is that TNA just can't get eyeballs and can't keep the eyeballs it has on its product. Sometimes great shows aren't ratings successes, but when you've got an audience and you can't keep it, then it's not working. There's not much else to it besides that.

I'm sure everybody is working hard, and that Don Callis, Scott D'Amore and Ed Nordholm or whatever his name is do care deeply about what they're doing. But it doesn't change the fact that it's not working. I don't know what working with other companies has to do with anything. That's something, like charging for tickets, TNA should have been doing years and years ago. And they've had the opportunity and burnt bridges and burnt their audience. They're "nice guys" now, but let's see how it all transpires.
That's basically all I'm saying, they've started doing what they should have been doing all along. They haven't done these things in a while so actually doing it is a success. They're still the most watched promotion behind WWE. Wrestling isn't main stream and I think your standards a way too high when it comes to the current pro wrestling landscape.
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That's basically all I'm saying, they've started doing what they should have been doing all along. They haven't done these things in a while so actually doing it is a success. They're still the most watched promotion behind WWE. Wrestling isn't main stream and I think your standards a way too high when it comes to the current pro wrestling landscape.
Whoa, whoa, whoa -- that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying what they're doing is not successful. Putting my pants on to go to work should be a given. If my dick is still hanging out, it doesn't go down well at a business meeting. I actually don't know if they are the most watched promotion besides WWE, are they? I think New Japan on AXS was averaging 200,000 people in 2015. ROH is certainly beating them in attendance. I wouldn't be shocked if they are getting higher ratings. The estimation I can get is from 2015, but it has ROH at <420,000 on syndication, with 220,923 on DA, back when they chose them over TNA. I imagine their numbers have probably slipped. But this is very US-centric too. I'm sure more people watch lucha (not Underground), with a higher percentage watching Japanese promotions in Japan.

Also, if they are #2 by default, I'm not sure if that's something to be proud of, exactly, when you consider how far they've fallen as #2.

I expect too much? As in for it to be good?
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If you want to break it down internationally than Impact has deals around the world as well and I'm not sure ROH has those type of deals.
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It was a usual ratings pattern with a third-hour drop, but not more significant than usual. The drop was more with both under 18 and over 50 viewers in hour three, rather than the teenagers usually holding up strong. Every demo group dropped in hour three.

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Jericho also wasn’t happy hearing that Don Callis wasn’t used after classic New Japan matches were uploaded with new commentary: “Not using @CyrusOverHuge over huge for ANY AND ALL commentary is a big mistake and just plain stupid.”

ROH announced that P.J. Black and Colin Delaney would debut for the promotion as part of the Survival of the Fittest show on 11/4 in Columbus, OH.

Hangman Page has been added to the lineup for ROH’s Survival of the Fittest tournament in Columbus, Ohio on November 4. Tracy Williams, Marty Scurll, Andrew Everett, Jonathan Gresham, Flip Gordon, PJ Black, and Colin Delaney are also set for the tournament.

Laredo Kid vs. Barrett Brown in a special attraction match has been added to the NWA 70th anniversary show.

Cody vs. Brian Cage has been announced for World Series Wrestling in November in Sydney.

Jordynne Grace, one of the most popular and well liked independent female stars, will make her Impact Wrestling debut tonight during tonight's TV taping in New York City at the Melrose Ballroom.

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Due to a rib injury, Will Ospreay is off New Japan Pro Wrestling's Road to Power Struggle tour.

NJPW announced the news overnight, with them noting that Ospreay will miss the tour to "focus on the NEVER Openweight Championship match" that he's having against Taichi at Power Struggle in Osaka on November 3. Taichi also won't be wrestling on the Road to Power Struggle tour because of Ospreay's absence.

The matches that Ospreay and Taichi are missing are from October 19 to November 1.

Ospreay's injury happened when he landed badly during his match against Chris Ridgeway for Revolution Pro Wrestling on Sunday.
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It’s funny that the WWE is promoting the first all women’s pay-per-view because the original idea was that SmackDown was going to be an all women’s show. The presentation of the female performers in 1999 was a stark contrast to today as the division was built around Sable and Debra and there were no illusions over what was being sold. The concept would have been nearly impossible to pull off, especially in a two-hour format and the outcome would have probably been a change to include everyone on the roster to save the show or would have died like Super Astros.
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The difference is that change is not the objective of this deal and it’s not the reason the WWE is doing this show. As complex a story as we can make this, it’s very black and white and if there wasn’t a lucrative deal in place this would be a non-issue. The WWE is not addressing this story on their broadcasts or even presented a public statement to defend their decision to run this show.
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If you want to break it down internationally than Impact has deals around the world as well and I'm not sure ROH has those type of deals.
I don't. That's a point, but I know they got their asses cancelled hard in Australia.
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Sorry, Chris, but you're wrong re: Cyrus. He's a shit commentator and New Japan is well within their rights not to use him. If Jericho is so bummed out he stops working with New Japan, that's a real shame, but for him too, since it's been his best work where he get out of the WWE grind of "nothing matters." But honestly, there may not have been a billion other things for Jericho to do anyway. I could imagine him taking a break after Wrestle Kingdom anyway.

John Cena's relationship with China seems to be something they have been developing for a while. Apparently he was living there because he was filming a Jackie Chan movie? It's just a pretty interesting thing they are capitalizing on.
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Unlike when Raw does these sorts of shows and brings in an audience that is almost always the best number of the year, this audience total is just above the year-to-date average and actually below what SmackDown was doing on a regular basis in the lead-up to WrestleMania ...

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TMZ interviewed Randy Orton and asked how he feels about WWE going to Saudi Arabia for Crown Jewel. His defense was similar to the one JBL gave on Fox Business. "I think we should go. I think the only way to help with change over there is to go and not to cancel the trip,” Orton said. "That's the goal is to make things better everywhere and I think us not going doesn't help. Going helps." Like JBL, Orton brought up WWE having a women’s match in Abu Dhabi. Orton said "100 percent" when he was asked if he thinks they’ll be able to have a women’s match in Saudi Arabia at some point.
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Beer City Bruiser, Silas Young, and Luchasaurus have been announced for ROH’s Survival of the Fittest tournament. The other wrestlers who have been confirmed thus far are: Tracy Williams, Marty Scurll, Andrew Everett, Jonathan Gresham, Flip Gordon, Colin Delaney, PJ Black, and Hangman Page.

Ilja Dragunov will be wrestling at PROGRESS’ show in Manchester, England on November 11.

The final episode of Ten Pounds of Gold before the NWA’s 70th Anniversary Show finished building to Cody Rhodes and Nick Aldis’ rematch.

MLW issued the following: MLW AND BEIN SPORTS TEAM-UP FOR HALLOWEEN SPECIAL NEXT FRIDAY NIGHT WITH MLW FRIGHT NIGHT. Next Friday night terror will rule the ring as Major League Wrestling (“MLW”) and beIN SPORTS presents their first Halloween special on October 26th at 8pm ET entitled MLW FRIGHT NIGHT.
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We noted last night that Dave Bautista arrived late at Smackdown 1000. One source noted that he actually arrived around 6:00 PM Eastern for a show that went on the air at 8 PM. 6:43 PM Update: Our original report listed 7:40 PM but two additional sources have since reached out to state it was actually earlier than that and that Bautista arrived around 6 PM.

The original plan was for the show to open with Rey Mysterio vs. Shinsuke Nakamura, but there was a lot of shuffling of segments in the last few hours prior to the show.

The Undertaker promo was always set in stone to close the broadcast, although it was planned to be much longer, but time was cut as the show ran long.

WWE also cut time for the Mysterio vs. Nakamura match, as well as Mysterio's entrance.

The Miz match was always scheduled to go three seconds.

Several backstage segments were cut from the show, including one with James Ellsworth, who instead shot a segment for WWE's YouTube segment.

The R-Truth segment was originally slated for later in the show.

At one point, there was talk of bringing in Christian but we have not heard he was there.

Kane was supposed to be at the taping but was not there. Obviously, he has lots of duties elsewhere these days.

Zack Ryder was backstage but not used.
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The National Wrestling Alliance 70th Anniversary event will air live on Fite.tv this Sunday 10/21 from The Nashville Fairground Arena in Nashville, TN featuring:
*NWA Champion Cody vs. Nick Aldis - Best of Three Falls.
*NWA Women's Champion Jazz vs. Penelope Ford.
*Willie Mack vs. Jay Bradley vs. Mike Parrow vs. Ricky Starks - NWA National Title Match A.
*Sam Shaw vs. Colt Cabana, Scorpio Sky vs. Sammy Guevara - NWA National Title Match B.
*Match A and B Winners face to crown new NWA National Champion.
*Tim Storm vs. Pretty Peter Avalon.
*Crimson & Jax Dane (with Road Warrior Animal) open challenge.
*Laredo Kid vs. Barrett Brown.
*Former NWA Champions Jeff Jarrett, Blue Demon Jr., Tim Storm and Dory Funk Jr, will all be in attendance at the event as well.

The announcing team for the event, which will air live on iPPV (priced at $24.99) on Fite.TV, will be Joe Galli of Championship Wrestling from Hollywood and Jim Cornette, while Tony Schiavone will be calling the NWA title bout via a deal reached with MLW, where Schiavone is under contract.
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WWE Network News is reporting that more classic episodes of WWE Main Event from 2013 will be added to the streaming service this Monday, October 22. According to their post as of right now it is only 10 episodes much like the last two weeks. But given that there 40 episodes unavailable on WWE Network it could be more.
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Getting to 1,000 episodes is only possible if you have an entire universe behind you. Thank you, #WWE Universe, for celebrating #SD1000 with us. Here’s to 1,000 more. pic.twitter.com/fVI5B0jTWn
— Vince McMahon (@VinceMcMahon) October 17, 2018
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Mauro Ranallo is not at tonight's WWE NXT TV tapings from Full Sail University. Vic Joseph replaced Mauro, joining Nigel McGuinness and Percy Watson at the announce table. These are the final tapings before "Takeover: War Games II" during WWE Survivor Series weekend next month. No word yet on why Mauro missed the tapings but we will keep you updated. Mauro recently tweeted at MMA promoters to let them know he's taking MMA bookings for 2019 but he noted in a later tweet that he is still with WWE.
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With the major emphasis on pushing WWE in the United Kingdom, Triple H has developed an extension of the company that focuses on exclusively appealing to the UK crowd ...

As a result of this success, the NXT UK brand will debut weekly today on the WWE Network, with Johnny Saint as the General Manager. However, as reported by The Mirror, Triple H is still hesitant to host a WrestleMania in the UK, primarily because of the misconception that the 1992 SummerSlam was a success.

"The time zones are the big kicker - we have to go where the most people can watch," said Triple H. "I always hear about Wembley, I always hear it was such a massive success: It was not. From a business standpoint, it was not. That's why we didn't come back and that's why we're still trying to figure it out."
Link: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other...ple-h-13406996

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With their big win at SmackDown 1000 last night, new SmackDown Tag Team Champions The Bar joined The Usos as teams that have defeated The New Day multiple times for tag team titles in WWE. On a related note, Cesaro and Sheamus became the 9th & 10th Superstars in WWE history to reign as both RAW Tag Team Champions and SmackDown Tag Team Champions in their careers.
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Week 5 of WWE's Mixed Match Challenge Season 2 saw two teams pick up wins - Bobby Lashley and Mickie James, The Miz and Asuka. Country Dominance defeated Bobby Roode and Natalya while Team Awe-ska defeated Rusev and Lana.

Live Facebook Watch viewership for this week's episode peaked at 74,400 viewers. This is up from last week's 72,000 viewers, week 3's 42,800 viewers and week 1's 52,400 live viewers.

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Odd that they were going to use James Ellsworth after the BFG stuff. Like, the guy's got to work and I'm sure there wasn't "heat," but it just seems weird to be promoting a guy that might do more work with them imminently.

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Recent survey sent by the WWE asked for fan feedback in regards to three potential match for this year's Survivor Series.

* Roman Reigns vs Braun Strowman for Universal Championship
* Rey Mysterio vs Shinsuke Nakamura for U.S. Championship
* Charlotte vs Asuka for Smackdown Women's Championship

Spoiler tags used since its related to rumored plans for Survivor Series matches and potential Evolution match spoilers.

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Kevin Owens will spend the next few months out of action following double knee surgery.

On this morning's Wrestling Observer Radio, Dave Meltzer gave an update on Owens’ injury status. While neither surgery was major, Meltzer mentioned that Owens’ left knee had more damage to it than previously thought. Meltzer also wrote in this week's Wrestling Observer Newsletter that the tentative time for Owens' return "looks to be perhaps late February, more likely early March, maybe April at the worst."

Owens had the surgery on his knees on 10/17. He posted a picture of his wrapped up knees on Twitter following the surgery, writing “They had a 2 for 1 sale going at the surgery store!”
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Indies Roundup:

Two more wrestlers from NJPW have been confirmed for November's ROH Global Wars tour. ROH announced today that KUSHIDA will be wrestling at the four Global Wars shows in November. BUSHI has also been added to the tour, with him joining fellow Los Ingobernables de Japon members Tetsuya Naito, EVIL, and SANADA.

MLW and Bein Sports at 8 p.m. on 10/26 has MLW Fright Night as a special show with Jimmy Havoc vs. Sami Callihan in a spin the wheel, make the deal match plus PCO vs. L.A. Park.

MLW announced PCO vs. Brody King in a no DQ match for the 11/8 show in Chicago at Cicero Stadium.

The NWA show on Sunday in Nashville has announced an appearance of Magnum T.A. who will present the new NWA National title belt to the winner of the tournament.

AAW announced Scarlett Bordeaux & Kimber Lee vs. Kylie Rae & Marti Belle for its 10/26 show in Marionette Park, IL at 115 Bourbon Street. Also on the show is Sammy Guevara vs. Rey Fenix, MVP vs. L.A. Park, Davey Vega & Mat Fitchett vs. Bandido & Flamita.

One person noted to us that The Crash attendance being down also has to do with those living in the U.S. being less likely to cross the border for shows. It was noted it’s a combination of violence in the city being at a high point and it affecting tourism, and that the type of wrestlers people would cross the border to see, like the big name American stars like Rey Mysterio, Young Bucks or Hardys no longer being there has hurt. The biggest name to the American fans is Penta 0M, but he’s losing some of his luster to Americans from his peak due to the lessening interest in Lucha Underground.

Major League Wrestling has signed PCO aka former WWE star Pierre Carl Oulette, who now does a Frankenstein’s Monster style unstoppable beast gimmick, to a deal, PWInsider.com has confirmed.
ROH: https://www.rohwrestling.com/news/ku...obal-wars-tour , NWA: https://www.tennessean.com/story/mon...ow/1668264002/

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A number of personalities within the pro wrestling world, including our own Les Thatcher, have sent word that former Dick Slater, who had a long run working for Mid-South, Mid-Atlantic, the WWF and WCW, has passed away. At this time, we do not have additional details regarding his passing.

Sad to hear that Dick Slater passed away this morning at age 67. One hell of a worker, and promo man. Go with God my friend.????
— Les Thatcher (@LesThatcher) October 18, 2018

Our deepest condolences to Slater's family, friends and fans.
According to the Observer, Slater died from heart complications yesterday. Link: https://twitter.com/LesThatcher/stat...92030123302913

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The WWE Network will be adding the 10/23/83 Georgia Championship Wrestling "The Last Battle of Atlanta" event from the Omni in Atlanta, GA to the Hidden Gems section for VOD viewing later today, making it the first time since that event took place live that it will be able to seen by an audience. The news was first reported by WWENetworkNews.com.
More details: https://www.pwinsider.com/article/12...today.html?p=1

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With the apparent link to the death of Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi in Turkey while at the Saudi Arabian consulate, the WWE has become under fire for doing the 11/2 Crown Jewel show in Riyadh. While there was talk about backup plans and monitoring the situation, at press time the show is a go, and tickets were to be put on sale on 10/19 for the show at King Saud University Stadium. The move from King Fahd International Stadium to the smaller King Saud University Stadium in Riyadh for the Crown Jewel show had nothing to do with popularity or ticket sales (which hadn’t even started) but because the larger stadium was up for renovation.

It appears that WWE is taking the approach that they have a deal worth $450 million or so, over ten years, that they would breach by not doing the show, and that, as is almost always the case with Vince McMahon, what is going on in the real world doesn’t matter since McMahon only knows one world, which is the one he usually almost fully controls. Those in the company said that the show will happen as planned unless either President Donald or the state department orders them to do it, and that is not going to happen ...

Within WWE, the reaction has been notable in a few ways ... WWE during the broadcast, mentioned Crown Jewel, but during the three hour show, Saudi Arabia and Riyadh, and the stadium were never mentioned. On the web site, mentions of Riyadh, Saudi Arabia as the site for the show weren’t there either, although that has since changed at press time as they are promoting the 10/19 on-sale date locally for the show ...

We were told by people in the company that almost all the production people and most of the talent think doing the show at this time is a bad idea. Many weren’t happy about the first show and what it turned into, but only one person, Corey Graves, even hinted that in public. Management, on the other hand, was strongly in support of doing the show.

The original emotional reaction that they are going to do a big show without women wrestlers, which was the least important part of the story, was the one they thought they had handled by doing the WWE’s first all-women’s PPV four five days earlier. There was the issue of being paid millions not to just come in and do a show, but for clear propaganda purposes and being able to slide under the radar doing it where the NFL, NBA or any other major league entertainment would be excoriated for doing so. The treatment of women within that culture making the company’s own women’s empowerment promotion being made into a farce was also somewhat explained by the idea that things were changing and they’d be part of the change. There is some change, but it’s slow, but the idea that WWE coming or not coming has even the slightest part in that is comedic at best and pathetic at worst. But it changed to a point nobody can address, which is the dismemberment of someone whose main crime was being critical of the prince, the very person who earmarked the money to WWE, and more so , there is mounting evidence from U.S. intelligence officials who believe that same prince who struck the deal with WWE is culpable in the murder.

If the company was financially struggling, perhaps it would change the equation in the “greater good” argument, in the sense that if the company went under, that affects thousands of people and millions of fans. But that’s not the case. The company is doing ridiculously well and can walk away from the deal, like many other businesses are. The attitude, which is likely to be the case, and probably something other businesses in the same position are doing, is to be hopeful the story runs its course and they can go back to business as usual. As far as strict business is concerned, the amount is significant, but not nearly as significant as the $450 million over ten year price tag would indicate. Eric Handler of MKM Partners told Deadline that if the show was canceled, it would cost the company between $2 million and $3 million in operating income in quarter four, which for a company the size of WWE is significant, but not game changing. He estimated that if the deal was canceled it would cost WWE between $12 million and $16 million in operating income in 2019.

While a number of business publications covered the story, it’s been a wait-and-see for investors. The stock on 10/17 closed at $83.98 per share giving the company a $6.549 billion market value, lower than it had over the past few weeks, but up from the lower level after the market plunge last week. It doesn’t appear the controversy has hurt the stock price. It will be interesting if the subject is brought up on the company’s investment conference call on 10/25.
Normally tend to post an abbreviated version of longer news fro Meltzer in a Newsletter but made an exception this time because of how in depth he goes on the Saudi topic.

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After Johnny Impact pinned Austin Aries to win the Impact title, Aries got right up, walked out and flipped off people on the way out. He then missed the next two nights of television. The entire Aries-Impact situation has been an attempt to do a worked shoot vibe, and while other sources are reporting that what happened at the end wasn’t planned and that everything at TV was rearranged, the key people involved when directly asked would not answer, giving me the impression that the worked shoot environment leading up to the match is continuing ...

While clearly meant to build the match, the environment, similar to the Sami Callihan heel push coming off the Eddie Edwards incident, you see a company looking to take reality, or take modern topics, and weave them into storylines for mainstream attention. It’s understandable, the promotion has been frustrated with the comments that the product has improved and the wrestling is the strongest its been in a while, at the same time ratings are falling and demos are aging, basically the same as for everyone except New Japan in the U.S. right now. But for Impact, largely a TV product owned by a TV company, it’s become an issue of trying to do anything to garner talk.
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As noted last week, Callis was never called to appear at King of Pro Wrestling. He had to cancel the last three days of G-1 due to his Impact schedule, and New Japan started making plans for a replacement which included the talks of Lanny Poffo. Callis has still not been called and is open to at least do big shows

Poffo, 63, addressed last week’s issue and said at he met Craven at the All In show in Chicago and Craven asked him if he would be interested in doing the color commentary on the show (this would be New Japan World in the spot Don Callis had, not AXS). Poffo said he would, that he loved New Japan and had ever been to Japan. He said he’s flying to Japan for an audition and would be doing English language commentary for shows from 10/23 to 11/4, which would include Power Struggle. Poffo said his return to wrestling all came by fate. He said he was on an airplane to New Orleans for WrestleCon over Mania weekend and sat next to Mark Brown, a producer for the ROH television show. Brown told him to contact Hunter Johnston, the ROH booker, and Johnston booked him on the 4/28 show in Lakeland. The Young Bucks, at the show, asked him to do a skit for Being the Elite and he said that turned his career around.
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The company [NJPW] wanted the Omega vs. Kota Ibushi singles match to headline King of Pro Wrestling, but Omega and Ibushi have turned down requests to do the match in the past a few times because they didn’t want to do it unless it was special. Budokan Hall made sense, in the sense it was where their previous singles match took place and it would determine the G-1 finals. But they wanted the rematch to be in a bigger building, obviously the idea being the 2020 Tokyo Dome show or MSG (and likely not with a one week build), so Cody was added to basically do Omega and Ibushi but not it being the big title singles match
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Wednesday's episode of WWE's Total Divas drew 340,000 viewers on the E! network. This is down 10.5% from last week's episode, which drew 380,000 viewers, and a new historic low for the show since it began airing back in 2013.
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With the big drop in ratings this season for Total Divas, in as obvious an idea as possible, those in WWE are talking about approaching Rousey to become a regular cast member. The last word we’ve heard is she hasn’t been approached, but that word was several days ago and things could have changed by the time this comes out. It’s a smart move in that it ups the profile of the show, but they’d probably also have to change aspects of the show. Some of the aspects like the scripted issues could say, but a lot of the show is still about setting up gratuitous bikini shots to promote the next episode during the regular shows, and while Rousey has done her swimsuit modeling in Sports Illustrated, that feels like the wrong fit with the character she portrays on the other shows. Then again, they had Lana as Russian on the regular shows and not Russian on Total Divas so in a sense they are seen as separate worlds
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Regarding FOX, because wrestling is being positioned as part of the sports block, a Thursday through Sunday thing FOX is looking at starting in 2019, especially during football season, FOX wants the Smackdown show to be less comedy and more in a sports direction. Vince is more into the comedy presentation with wrestling but they are looking at having their sports people on the different shows heavily promote it and they want to give them something athletically-oriented to promote
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Three WWE NXT Superstars have been quietly released from their developmental deals - Tian Bing, Jason Cheng and Gabriel Ealy. The Wrestling Observer Newsletter adds that Gabriel's twin brother Uriel Ealy was released back in June.
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New Japan Pro Wrestling reportedly has interest in bringing back three talents that are currently signed to WWE, according to Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio.

NJPW officials are said to be interested in signing Luke Gallows, Karl Anderson and WWE United States Champion Shinsuke Nakamura. It's believed they all signed three-year contracts with WWE in early 2016 and there has been no news on renewals coming up.

It's expected that Gallows, Anderson and Nakamura will stay with WWE. Nakamura moved to the United States back when he signed with WWE and he's settled here. Meltzer noted that there's talk of Gallows possibly looking to return but that was not confirmed. Anderson will likely stay here in the States as he has a family to take care of.
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Eric Bischoff was a recent guest on the Pancakes and Powerslams Show and took part of a Q&A session. Bischoff answered a number of questions, while also affirming that he will not be at Crown Jewel ...

Bischoff then revealed who he feels is the Mount Rushmore of pro wrestling.

"I think it would have to be Hulk Hogan, Vince McMahon, Ric Flair, and probably Stone Cold [Steve Austin]," said Bischoff.
More highlights: https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/20...sional-646867/


Some other sheet news includes:
  • In a "WWE Did You Know" type fact, today is the 8th anniversary of WWE launching the "Stand Up for WWE" website as part of Linda McMahon's failed Senatorial campaign.
  • According to the Observer, Impact Wrestling sold around 900 tickets for last week's Bound for Gory 2018 event.
  • Also according to the Observer, WWE currently has plans for the next NXT branch to be based in Germany and be called NXT Germany.
  • Seems rumors of WWE debuting new Women Tag belts at Evolution were finally squashed due to the Observer reporting all unannounced main roster women for the event will be in the Battle Royale instead.
  • Based on recent ticket tracking, WWE's upcoming all-women Evolution event is close to reaching sell out status and likely will hit it by the day of the event itself. Observer reported Ronda vs Nikki announcement managed to cause a surge in sales.
  • Based on recent court documents, Charlotte could be facing her own Hogan-like situation in regards to making racist comments and having them recorded. In her case it was via police reports and dash-cam footage. https://www.scribd.com/document/3911...an-Shields-WWE


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Oh shit if Charlotte actually made racist comments that get leaked.

TNA are fucking stupid.

Lol at Total Divas and Ronda vs. Nikki actually spiking sales.
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Impact Wrestling didn't get a significant ratings bump coming off Bound for Glory 2018.

Thursday's episode averaged 189,000 viewers on Pop TV, up slightly from last week's 183,000. The rating in the 18-49 demo was unchanged at a 0.04.

This was the third-lowest audience Impact has drawn in 2018 and the third straight week they've been below 200,000 viewers.

Impact will begin airing in a new time slot next week. Next Thursday's episode, which will feature new Impact World Champion Johnny Impact defending his title against Fenix, will air at 10 p.m. Eastern time.
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There are plans for WWE Hall of Famer Shawn Michaels to appear on this Monday's Monday Night Raw in Providence, Rhode Island to help build to his return to the ring at the 11/2 Crown Jewel event in Saudi Arabia, PWInsider.com has confirmed.

That match, featuring DX vs. The Undertaker and Kane will be Michaels' first official match since retiring after losing to The Undertaker in the main event of Wrestlemania 26.
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Saudi Arabia state media has confirmed the death of Jamal Khashoggi, a Saudi journalist who wrote for the Washington Post. They said that an altercation between Khashoggi and those who met him inside the Saudi consulate in Turkey led to his death. Crown Jewel is scheduled for November 2 in Riyadh.
Pretty much more fuel to fire for WWE's backlash if they still go ahead with the event following recent events. Saudis originally denied that the journalist was dead or having any role in it.

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Indies Roundup:
ROH has begun announcing matches for next month’s Global Wars tour. Jay Lethal, KUSHIDA, Chris Sabin & Jonathan Gresham vs. Los Ingobernables de Japon (Tetsuya Naito, EVIL, SANADA & BUSHI) is set for Lewiston, Maine on November 7, The Young Bucks vs. KUSHIDA & Sabin vs. Lethal & Gresham vs. The Kingdom (Vinny Marseglia & TK O’Ryan) will be taking place in Lowell, Massachusetts on November 8, KUSHIDA vs. Gresham vs. Flip Gordon vs. BUSHI is set for Buffalo, New York on November 9, and Lethal will defend his ROH World Championship against Kenny King in Toronto on November 11.

Dalton Castle and CMLL’s Stuka Jr. and Guerrero Maya Jr. have been announced for ROH’s Survival of the Fittest tournament in Columbus, Ohio on November 4.

Pro Wrestling EVE has uploaded their entire WrestleQueendom show from May 5, featuring a match between Meiko Satomura and Kay Lee Ray.

David Starr vs. Tomohiro Ishii has been added to the 11/9 Rev Pro Uprising event in York Hall. The match was made after Starr issued a challenge to Ishii.

Lucha Underground averaged 73,000 viewers this past Wednesday on the El Rey Network, which was down from 84,000 last week. The fourth season will conclude with a two-part Ultima Lucha special on October 31st and November 7th.

Jordynne Grace has announced she has had to pull out of three shows this weekend due to a lingering ankle injury she has been working with. Grace sprained her ankle several weeks back and was told it would take 4-6 weeks of recovery but worked on it anyway. She said her ankle is worse than ever and take a short break and hopes to be back in two weeks. She was scheduled to work for Nova Pro Wrestling in Virginia, AWS in California, and Innovative Pro Wrestling in New Jersey this weekend. Grace also made her debut with Impact Wrestling at the television tapings this past Tuesday and wrestled a match with Katarina.
ROH: https://www.rohwrestling.com/news/da...d-championship , PW EVE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETBcUtaO7uY , Rev Pro: https://twitter.com/RevProUK/status/1053402866247970818

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There's been talk of naming the Big Show's new alliance with Sheamus and Cesaro "Showbar." The name was being used backstage at Smackdown 1000, but we'll see if it ends up on camera.
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The WWE will be holding their quarterly investors call next Thursday and should have significantly more attention than usual because of the upcoming Crown Jewel event. It’s impossible to imagine that topic not dominating the questions from investors and the rationale of the company to move forward with the event and fulfill this pact over the next decade.
Based on an analyst, WWE could be looking at a $12-$16 million hit in net income for the fiscal year if they break the Saudi contract. Link: https://deadline.com/2018/10/wwe-sau...gi-1202484980/

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The full lawsuit that has been filed by Riki Paul Johnson against Ashley & Ric Fliehr, author Brian Shields, and the WWE can be read online. Johnson is seeking $500,000 in actual damages and an additional $5 million in punitive damages over the content of the Fliehr’s 2017 book, “Second Nature”. Johnson is alleging that falsehoods were written in the book, including that Johnson was sterile and unable to father children, physical and psychological abuse that Ashley outlined in the book along with alleged criminal misconduct that is “unsupported by any official record, medical reports or any other supporting documentation. Moreover, such conduct being attributed to the Plaintiff that is, in fact, contradicted by official police reports and police dash cam video footage depicting Defendant #1 (Ashley) being the ‘out of control’ aggressor in a physical and verbal tirade which was directed at the responding officers as well as her disparaging and racist comments being directed at the Afro-American community in Chapel Hill, NC.”
Some more details regarding the Flair's defamation lawsuit.

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Earlier today a report was released that stated Chris Jericho and Jim Ross were working with a major benefactor to launch a new pro wrestling promotion. The report also noted that the two had been in talks with AXS TV about securing a TV deal. Since then AXS TV has flatly denied any involvement in the rumored project.

Chris Jericho has taken to Twitter just now to share the following, throwing even more cold water on the idea:

I'm starting my own wrestling company? AWESOME! Im also starting my own movie studio w #LadyGaga, my own carwash w #Bono & my own bakeshop!
— Chris Jericho (@IAmJericho) October 20, 2018

It doesn't seem in the cards for Jericho to be opening a movie studio with Lady Gaga, or a car wash with Bono for that matter. So, it would seem he's not going to be launching a promotion with Jim Ross.
Link: https://twitter.com/IAmJericho/statu...44644812546048 , Link from the SEScoops report in dispute: https://www.sescoops.com/chris-jeric...ing-promotion/

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WWE Hall of Famer Ric Flair is currently scheduled to be at WWE Evolution later this month, according to PWInsider. We also now know of more WWE NXT names that are reportedly being brought in - the injured Tegan Nox, Shadia Bseiso, Kavita Devi, Xia Li and Taynara Conti. It's possible Bseiso is working as a backstage interviewer like she has with the Mae Young Classic.
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RAW Women's Champion Ronda Rousey has received a lot of props this week for her promo with Nikki Bella on Monday's RAW from Philadelphia. This strong promo by Rousey is especially interesting because she personally wrote most of the promo herself and used her own words, according to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter.

Paul Heyman has been producing Rousey's segments as of late because she's most comfortable working with him, and because Heyman has the best knowledge of Rousey's career and her character.

Regarding Monday's RAW promo, Heyman gave Rousey instructions and the key parts to focus on - the line about John Cena's bedroom, The Bella Twins leeching off Cena and Daniel Bryan. He also gave The Bellas their key lines on how they were the real Superstars who started the women's revolution and the Divas Title record. With The Bellas putting over Nikki's Divas Title record, the idea was that fans consider the Divas era to be a negative point in time for the women of WWE, and The Bellas would be pushing the era like it was a good thing.
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WWE has a new poll asking fans which Evolution match they're most looking forward to. As of this writing, 46% voted for the Last Woman Standing match between Charlotte Flair and SmackDown Women's Champion Becky Lynch while 20% voted for Nikki Bella vs. RAW Women's Champion Ronda Rousey, 17% for Alexa Bliss and Mickie James vs. WWE Hall of Famers Lita and Trish Stratus, 11% for the Battle Royal and 6% for Shayna Baszler vs. WWE NXT Women's Champion Kairi Sane
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Next Wednesday’s episode of 205 Live is their 100th episode after premiering in November 2016 on the WWE Network. The show will feature a Falls Count Anywhere match between Hideo Itami and Mustafa Ali and Mike Kanellis will have his first match on the show against Lince Dorado. The show will be taped Tuesday in Newark, New Jersey prior to the SmackDown and Mixed Match Challenge tapings.

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Old 10-20-2018, 07:50 PM   #2316
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God, I hope there is some fire to go along with that Chris Jericho/Jim Ross story. If there was ever a time to start a new promotion, it is probably now. ROH are getting more backing from Sinclair, but it's got that stigma of its style. A new "rassling" promotion would do the scene some good.
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Old 10-22-2018, 08:32 AM   #2317
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On Wrestling Observer Radio Dave Meltzer said the reason for the Daniel Cormier tryout on commentary (when it happens) is because FOX has asked for him to do play-by-play for SmackDown when it moves, as they really like him doing play-by-play for UFC.

Dave said FOX thinks Cormier will help give the product a more 'sports feel' and re-iterated that a 'sports-feel' is what FOX is indicating they want for Smackdown (translation : no more New Day/R-Truth segments)
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Old 10-22-2018, 08:33 AM   #2318
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slik note : wouldn't a more 'sports feel' basically be NJPW (or copying the NJPW style)?
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Old 10-22-2018, 11:55 AM   #2319
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slik note : wouldn't a more 'sports feel' basically be NJPW (or copying the NJPW style)?
WWE took a lot from ECW and boomed the attitude era. Nothing wrong with borrowing good ideas.
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Old 10-22-2018, 01:16 PM   #2320
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