05-30-2019, 10:04 AM | #1 |
Posts: 386
|
Cornette Rants about Double or Nothing
|
05-30-2019, 10:09 AM | #2 |
boop/bop/beep
Posts: 38,427
|
In fairness, he's not the only one to hate everything up until the 3 mains -- they'd be wise to listen to at least some of Jimmy's criticism.
|
05-30-2019, 10:23 AM | #3 |
boop/bop/beep
Posts: 38,427
|
Though just ignore everything he says about Kenny lol
|
05-30-2019, 10:27 AM | #4 |
It's a blood match!
Posts: 27,374
|
I'm listening now. I highly doubt there is a show that he would like tbh... he comes of as such a wrestling elitist but I do love listening to him and I do respect him.
His distain for Omega is ludacris, the battle royal did suck and I'm glad he called out Marvez on his performance. He did like a lot about the show but overall his negativity out weighs. |
05-30-2019, 10:28 AM | #5 |
It's a blood match!
Posts: 27,374
|
The worst part is his podcast partner agrees with literally everything Jim says.
|
05-30-2019, 10:30 AM | #6 |
boop/bop/beep
Posts: 38,427
|
Agree with him 100% about XCalibur getting rid of the fucking mask. He looks like such a damned goober.
|
05-30-2019, 10:34 AM | #7 |
President of Freedonia
Posts: 58,167
|
The stuff he disliked isn't a surprise since he seems to hate everything that isn't decades out of date.
|
05-30-2019, 10:35 AM | #8 |
boop/bop/beep
Posts: 38,427
|
I liked all 3 main events which were all I watched.
Jim's negatives are a bit much but even in the most outlandish critiques, there are some very valid points. However, given the Bucks and Omega are the forefathers of AEW and Cornette despises them, it's going to be tough to get good reviews from him. |
05-30-2019, 10:45 AM | #9 |
President of Freedonia
Posts: 58,167
|
I do agree with him on Marvez. He was awful.
Couldn't care less about the optics of Excalibur wearing a mask. He was the best part of commentary. |
05-30-2019, 10:47 AM | #10 |
It's a blood match!
Posts: 27,374
|
I loved the show, I've seen it 3 times actually, not all viewings were as intent as the live show of course... I think the Battle Royal was a really bad idea in retrospect, especially having a top contender come from that lot of ... misfits. Also a really bad way to start the company. The inclusion is great but Cornette was right, the no legs gimmick in a match to determine your top contender... Orange Cassidy.... all of those looong shots, it was a bad idea. Thankfully Moxley didn't debut in that garbage. Plus they busted their own gimmick and had 22 people enter. We didn't need Cutler. I'm already sick of Cutler being there cause he goes back with the Bucks.
|
05-30-2019, 10:48 AM | #11 |
boop/bop/beep
Posts: 38,427
|
You should care about the optics. He looks like a fucking twat. I liked a lot of what he was saying though but I don't think when you're trying to establish yourself as a 'sport' centric organization, your color guy should be a gimmick.
|
05-30-2019, 10:53 AM | #12 |
Trickster Demon
Posts: 59,750
|
I don't mind the mask
I 100% agree on Marvez though, if he doesn't shape up on the next few shows I would suggest moving him to a interviewer role alongside Alicia. Camera work I assume will work itself out over time, I expected some 'growing pains'. I don't agree w/ Cornette on everything but I think his input is valuable and he wants them to do well. |
05-30-2019, 10:54 AM | #13 |
Trickster Demon
Posts: 59,750
|
I just assume all the EVPs and Tony have rewatched the show repeatedly and taken notes/had meetings about what worked/didn't work
AEW seems well organized on that end is my perception. |
05-30-2019, 11:06 AM | #14 |
( ._.)
Posts: 13,896
|
Jim Cornette has been irrelevant for over a decade.
|
05-30-2019, 11:10 AM | #15 |
( ._.)
Posts: 13,896
|
I wonder what "Tank Toland" and "Carmella Decesare" thought about AEW.
|
05-30-2019, 11:14 AM | #16 |
It's a blood match!
Posts: 27,374
|
You could argue longer but his podcast has made him relevant in that wrestling fans enjoy listening to his rants about why everything sucks. The thing that's annoying about Jim is that in his critique he slams people for doing the same shit he's done or been apart of. He caught himself on this episode when him and his podcast partner were ripping on a 3 person announce booth then Jim realized he was on a 3 person announce booth for the Crockett Cup and that people like it. There is no black and white right and wrong in pro wrestling, it depends on the moment.
|
05-30-2019, 11:23 AM | #17 | |
President of Freedonia
Posts: 58,167
|
Quote:
Color commentators in sports are almost always former players of that particular sport. This is no exception. |
|
05-30-2019, 11:23 AM | #18 |
President of Freedonia
Posts: 58,167
|
#MaskedLivesMatter
|
05-30-2019, 11:28 AM | #19 |
It's a blood match!
Posts: 27,374
|
I like Excalibur a lot, and I don't mind him in a mask. I think it's cool.
|
05-30-2019, 11:28 AM | #20 |
boop/bop/beep
Posts: 38,427
|
I get that. But I don't see Tracy McGrady turning up to the commentating booth in his ball gear. And X isn't really enough of a name that it doesn't seem stupid. If it were Rey Misterio I'd get it though still not be overly fond of it. This isn't a knock on his commentating either - I liked him better here than I did at All In. I just hate the presentation.
|
05-30-2019, 11:30 AM | #21 |
It's a blood match!
Posts: 27,374
|
Like I really like the cut to the booth and seeing a masked wrestler with a headset, very much what I'd expect in a wrestling comic book or something. AEW brass clearly have a thing for the masked wrestler and it is something that hasn't been used very much since the 80's.
|
05-30-2019, 11:36 AM | #22 | |
b/c 5 is better than 4
Posts: 9,721
|
Quote:
|
|
05-30-2019, 11:39 AM | #23 | |
It's a blood match!
Posts: 27,374
|
Quote:
|
|
05-30-2019, 12:09 PM | #24 |
Resident drug enabler
Posts: 45,473
|
The first thing I saw grime AEW was when I tuned into the pre-show and saw Marvez start to speak before getting cut off by Excalibur and then awkwardly stand there looking lost. Laughed out loud. Cornette’s ransom video analogy was spot-on.
|
05-30-2019, 12:12 PM | #25 |
Feeling Oof-y
Posts: 17,135
|
“Guy Who’s Main Bread & Butter Is Ranting About Wrestling Rants About Wrestling Show Shock”
|
05-30-2019, 12:14 PM | #26 |
Resident drug enabler
Posts: 45,473
|
And yeah, considering how AEW pushed wins and losses mattering and putting more focus on the sports aspect and less on the backstage drama, that battle royal was counterproductive from the get-go. They need to decide if they wanna come off as serious or hokey comedy. You can’t do both.
|
05-30-2019, 01:34 PM | #27 |
Trickster Demon
Posts: 59,750
|
I like the Vegas lounge music they used for Double Or Nothing
Anyone else? |
05-30-2019, 01:39 PM | #28 |
King of Love and Piss
Posts: 62,988
|
I thought Jericho looked like shit and it ruined the main event. Dude is getting paid a lot of money. He should be in shape. He looked like Mickey Rourke in The Wrestler.
|
05-30-2019, 01:52 PM | #29 |
I am the cheese
Posts: 51,009
|
He's actually actively trying to make his body look like that. I completely agree its a shit look and he should stop but he's literally working to make himself look that way.
|
05-30-2019, 01:52 PM | #30 |
I am the cheese
Posts: 51,009
|
He says the rotund barrel gut look traditionally commands respect in Japan and makes getting heat easier in the states.
|
05-30-2019, 01:54 PM | #31 | |
b/c 5 is better than 4
Posts: 9,721
|
Quote:
I'm hit and miss with Omega, but I don't follow independent wrestling as much as I should, but from what I have seen I agree with Cornette more than not. I don't see how he can be a face, he doesn't feel super intimidating and his voice is weird. And this is all coming from a fellow Canadian. The comparison to him and Seth Rollins is laughable. |
|
05-30-2019, 02:06 PM | #32 |
boop/bop/beep
Posts: 38,427
|
|
05-30-2019, 02:09 PM | #33 |
President of Freedonia
Posts: 58,167
|
Next time I take a few weeks off of the gym, I'm going to write it off as I'm gearing up for a New Japan run.
|
05-30-2019, 02:10 PM | #34 |
I am the cheese
Posts: 51,009
|
I fucking hate it. Looks like shit and I think a national TV audience will agree.
|
05-30-2019, 02:14 PM | #35 |
President of Freedonia
Posts: 58,167
|
He's just cultivating mass.
|
05-30-2019, 02:18 PM | #36 |
Hey Mister!
Posts: 54,947
|
As long as he looks better than Kassius Ohno, it won't bother me.
|
05-30-2019, 02:20 PM | #37 |
I am the cheese
Posts: 51,009
|
Thats the lowest bar ive ever seen
|
05-30-2019, 02:20 PM | #38 |
Inno Knows.
Posts: 43,710
|
FUCK YOUR BEAUTY STANDARDS FIGNUTS
|
05-30-2019, 02:22 PM | #39 |
boop/bop/beep
Posts: 38,427
|
|
05-30-2019, 02:23 PM | #40 |
boop/bop/beep
Posts: 38,427
|
|