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Old 07-27-2018, 09:24 PM   #41
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Sami Callihan is great. Feel like his Death Machine faction in MLW is almost exactly like OVE in Impact. Not sure if those two in Death Machine are from Ohio though.
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Old 07-27-2018, 09:31 PM   #43
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Tony/Matt Striker good on commentary

very lighthearted but fun -- which is how I'd describe the whole show so far
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Old 07-27-2018, 09:31 PM   #44
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BOBBY JAGGERS JR has entered the Battle Riot

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These guys using their WWE names is odd. Has WWE let them or does MLW just not give a shit.
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Jaker Hager doesn't get to use his WWE name. Makes those others even weirder but I guess they were not tely anything bifmg so they don't mind.
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Old 07-27-2018, 09:40 PM   #49
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Triple A and everyone else who doesn't have beIN you can watch this tomorrow on youtube starting at 6:05.

I can't wait I guarantee I will be able to hear myself. I'm super f'n loud and it's such a small space. Glad you are enjoying the show Slik and Simple Fan.
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Battle Royal down to Jack Swagger/Filthy Tom Lawlor
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Lawler had a hell a performance but I was pulling for Jake Hager. Just gmfeel like he'd be a great World Heaveyweight Champion for MLW. Tom Lawler vs Low Ki should be a fight as well.
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Venue is small and Impact has a bit bigger set up than MLW so they might have even less space. I think Impact can make it look pretty good though.
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MLW has nice championships, way better than Impact's new ones.
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Venue is small and Impact has a bit bigger set up than MLW so they might have even less space. I think Impact can make it look pretty good though.
It's very small. The Observer reported something like 947 sold out Battle Riot. No possible way did that happen. They set up for 200 seated maybe MAYBE 300 but trust me it wasn't. And standing you could fit another 200. I work for a similar but much larger venue in NYC and I know what 1,000 people look like and they were nowhere close to that. I'd say 500 at best and that would be including staff.
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was that just a one time thing with matt striker, he is so much better then rich. hope they keep striker that's a good team of tony and striker.
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No he's full time MLW now.
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Really don't get MLW's weight divisions but its pro wrestling so who cares.
I haven't seen MLW yet, but MSL (who I imagine is involved) is a big fan of WCW, boxing and trying to inject realism into wrestling, to some degree. If there are weight classes and an attempt to pass it off as a sport, I imagine that's largely a philosophy he would be on board with.
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I haven't seen MLW yet, but MSL (who I imagine is involved) is a big fan of WCW, boxing and trying to inject realism into wrestling, to some degree. If there are weight classes and an attempt to pass it off as a sport, I imagine that's largely a philosophy he would be on board with.
The thing that bothers me about MLW weight divisions is simply that the Middleweight champion is easily 30-40lbs heavier than their Heavyweight Champion. Lo Ki is not a heavyweight, so they need to address this quickly and get the strap off of him and onto Lawlor. Even then though Lawlor is just barely a Heavyweight. He fights at 185 and 205 in UFC. So he walks around probably 220... which yeah I guess that works in today's age of small wrestlers but still...

On another topic. Simon Gotch, who bought the rights to that name a few months ago, is all body fat. I couldn't believe the amount of fat on his body, it's really odd. When I saw him in person it was such an odd sight to see. I remember reading that WWE was down on him because he was fat but I was like "WTF are you talking about he's not fat", well he is.

On another topic, I'm not sold when it comes to Lawlor's mic skills to be "the top guy" in MLW. I haven't seen Battle Riot on TV yet, I'll watch it on youtube later but his promo came off like such a dick when they are obviously trying to push him as a babyface. I understand he is "Filthy" but he cut a heel promo for sure. So if they wanted to they should've just kept the belt on Strickland, who is much closer to Heavyweight than Low Ki, and had Lawlor build a match with him as a heel, and then after the match do a handshake and push him babyface.
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The thing that bothers me about MLW weight divisions is simply that the Middleweight champion is easily 30-40lbs heavier than their Heavyweight Champion. Lo Ki is not a heavyweight, so they need to address this quickly and get the strap off of him and onto Lawlor. Even then though Lawlor is just barely a Heavyweight. He fights at 185 and 205 in UFC. So he walks around probably 220... which yeah I guess that works in today's age of small wrestlers but still...
Yeah that's what I really don't get about their weight divisions and why I was pulling for Hager. I'm all for having weight divisions but when your middleweight champion is heavier than the heaveyweight champion what's the point?
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MLW just asked for questions on Twitter so I asked them (for the second time) to clarify.
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The thing about MJF that is good for MLW is that WWE already has EC3 and body development aside there like no difference between them.
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The thing that bothers me about MLW weight divisions is simply that the Middleweight champion is easily 30-40lbs heavier than their Heavyweight Champion. Lo Ki is not a heavyweight, so they need to address this quickly and get the strap off of him and onto Lawlor. Even then though Lawlor is just barely a Heavyweight. He fights at 185 and 205 in UFC. So he walks around probably 220... which yeah I guess that works in today's age of small wrestlers but still...

On another topic. Simon Gotch, who bought the rights to that name a few months ago, is all body fat. I couldn't believe the amount of fat on his body, it's really odd. When I saw him in person it was such an odd sight to see. I remember reading that WWE was down on him because he was fat but I was like "WTF are you talking about he's not fat", well he is.

On another topic, I'm not sold when it comes to Lawlor's mic skills to be "the top guy" in MLW. I haven't seen Battle Riot on TV yet, I'll watch it on youtube later but his promo came off like such a dick when they are obviously trying to push him as a babyface. I understand he is "Filthy" but he cut a heel promo for sure. So if they wanted to they should've just kept the belt on Strickland, who is much closer to Heavyweight than Low Ki, and had Lawlor build a match with him as a heel, and then after the match do a handshake and push him babyface.
I saw MJF's entrance, and he looks like he is supposed to be playing a cocky heel. It makes sense for him to be bigger than the smaller Heavyweight Champ. I do get the mental objection, but I think it's how you go about this. Cruiserweights in the WWE never work, because they always present it as a lower division and are never going to tell stories around it. Low Ki fighting out of his weight class because he's that experienced/good and a heel that is bigger than him slumming it in that division could be a potential story. I'd bear them out on this.

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Yeah that's what I really don't get about their weight divisions and why I was pulling for Hager. I'm all for having weight divisions but when your middleweight champion is heavier than the heaveyweight champion what's the point?
I like Hager enough, but he really does have that WWE stank on him. They're trying to wash it off and make him a deal because of his fight deals and amateur background (which is wise), but it's also a good idea to not smash TAFKA Jack Swagger over everyone on your roster either. Him being rejuvenated and hungry but still having to sharpen his skills to hang with the very best is probably a good position for him. For now. The match coming down between him and Hager is probably foreshadowing to where the belt is going.
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There's lots MLW are doing that I really like, on paper. I can appreciate the booking moves and the way they are trying to get their product out and get feedback to fine-tune it. If it's on YouTube, I think I'll go and check it out.
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I'm watching on Youtube and Joey Ryan said he had to cut 5lbs to make 205 so the Middleweight limit is 205.
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Here is the full show, a little over 90 minutes, they uploaded it for free on YouTube:
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I'm watching on Youtube and Joey Ryan said he had to cut 5lbs to make 205 so the Middleweight limit is 205.
Ssems about right for a middleweight championship. Still weird to have cruiserweights as your heaveyweight champion though. Low Ki and Shane Strickland should be nowhere near the heaveyweight division.

I'd go everyone below 200 lbs is a cruiserweight with 200-215lbs for middleweight and above 215lbs would be the heaveyweights.
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I like Hager enough, but he really does have that WWE stank on him. They're trying to wash it off and make him a deal because of his fight deals and amateur background (which is wise), but it's also a good idea to not smash TAFKA Jack Swagger over everyone on your roster either. Him being rejuvenated and hungry but still having to sharpen his skills to hang with the very best is probably a good position for him. For now. The match coming down between him and Hager is probably foreshadowing to where the belt is going.
Their roster is pretty much ex WWE and ROH guys with a mix of current Impact guys and some young independent talent. It feels like its All In on weekly basis because you never know who's going to show up. Hager is the best guy on the roster out of the bunch though and would make a great heaveyweight champion, atleast way better than Low Ki.
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When I was there live, Hager did a one on one with Simon Gotch and I couldn't believe how unspectacular Hager was. He has no charisma and no psychology. He played well in Battle Riot but he is not a top guy. The best "heavyweight" they have might be Lawlor. Another option is Sami Calihan. As I'm watching Battle Riot, Hager comes off a lot better on TV but man I tell you truly, live he was a zero.
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He's looked pretty good on Lucha Underground as well but who doesn't.
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I think when Low Ki faces Lawlor we will get the best MLW main event so far. Lawlor really has that strong style and obviously Low Ki is one of the originators of today's indie spirit so I expect Low Ki to make Lawlor shine. Lawlor is looking really good in Battle Riot. I'm at the last of it now with just Tom and Jake. Just like it was live this is the best part of the match.
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I gotta say while I am very excited that Bound For Glory is so easily accessible to me, seeing this on TV, this venue is way to small for Impact's "flagship" PPV. But I understand they gotta do what they gotta do and it won't affect the show.
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This is a post I made at F4Wonline.com the night of the show. I stood behind production and one of the board members asked me if I saw anything cool...

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Well the producer was this guy Roger who I was talking with before the show started. All the production guys on the mezzanine were having a blast watching the show. Roger was calling the shots via Court in the production truck outside the arena. It was so tempting to look at Roger's script because he was literally right in front of me but I didn't want him to feel like he was spoiling the show for me so I didn't look at it very much. They also had this computer with all of the graphics for the worker's entrances, and I saw this big blue BWO sign and figured that Blue Meanie was going to be a surprise entrant in Battle Riot and he was. So I stopped looking as much as I could. I also had the TV monitor right in front of me so I could watch live and also see what it will look like on TV, that was really cool. I'd say the most inside thing I observed was how Roger was so diligent in the countdown for Battle Riot. There was one part where I think Brodie Lee was eliminated and he told the guy running the entrances "HOLD! HOLD! JUST HOLD EVERYTHING!" because he wanted this moment to really set in. He was counting down from 20 for his workers to hit the countdown from 10 on time. He was really good at his job.

Also he must be pretty important to the company because ACH kept making eye contact with him, like checking for approval ALL NIGHT. He'd look up and be like "was that good?" And then there was some issues with Rich Swann, he got hurt legit during his match. ACH was communicating non verbally with the producer. Turns out they took Swan and his girlfriend out of Battle Riot, she was scheduled but must have left to go to the hospital with Swan. I was like 5 feet away from Tony and Striker, you could hear Striker a lot because he was so animated. It was really cool having him there. He also did an in ring with Tom after the Battle Riot.

After MJF won his Middleweight Championship he came up and kind of moved me out of the way and said to Roger "Thank you, I love you". It was really sweet. MJF was so on it tonight, a truly great heel. Seeing him live was better than TV for sure, same with Shane Strickland and Tom Lawler. They are all really fantastic live performers. Low Ki unfortunately was not, his match with John Hennigan was the worst on the show, not to say it was a bad match but still the most unexciting. Hopefully they get Tom the belt ASAP because Low Ki isn't going to carry this company. Tom was super over as a babyface, but sometimes in his promo's he comes off like a cocky heel... it will be interesting where that goes.

I would recommend you see MLW War Games if you are near Fort Lauderdale in September, that should be a blast.
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