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Old 02-01-2020, 10:05 PM   #1
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Exclamation DISCUSSION - 2020 - Who is the best male wrestler in the world?

Is it Okada? Omega? Ospreay? Lesnar? Jericho? PAC?

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Old 02-01-2020, 10:12 PM   #2
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PAC by a mile.
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Old 02-01-2020, 10:15 PM   #3
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Old 02-01-2020, 10:16 PM   #4
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I think it’s really between Brock, Bryan and Okada for me.
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Old 02-01-2020, 10:17 PM   #5
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Old 02-01-2020, 10:19 PM   #6
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I wish they’d use Bryan “better.” It’s nice he just wants to do his thing and be around, but he could really elevate guys by working with them.
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Old 02-01-2020, 10:21 PM   #7
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Why does everyone have such a hard on for the guy that does 3 (4 if you include strikes) moves, only works once every 3-4 months, and gets gassed on his way to the ring :/

I used to preach the word of Lesnar but man the routine is old af now and his matches are boring as fuck and basically all the exact same. 10 german suplexes, opponent magically gets in some offense by attacking brocks leg for a couple minutes, 5 more German suplexes, F-5, F-5, pin. Every now and then they change it up and throw a kimura in there. That's it. The only good thing about Brock is Heyman.
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Old 02-01-2020, 10:24 PM   #8
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No one could have done what he did with the RR this year.

Brock made the whole match, made a new star, sold when needed.
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Old 02-01-2020, 10:27 PM   #9
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I will say that I was very skeptical of Brock in the Rumble and he absolutely killed it.
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Adding the JeriGoat to my list too...so many tied for #1...shit maybe Cody too....this is harder than the women's number one...
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Old 02-01-2020, 10:32 PM   #11
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Okada.

The only real knock against him is the first 10-20 minutes of any of his big matches tend to feel as if its padding match time just for the sake of it. Anyone else and those matches would feel very boring or way too dragged out but he's made them become an effective way to cool down crowds from a very hot match without it hurting his match and build up the suspense of his own match to a crazy level once it hits the next gear.
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Depends on your definition of best.

Brock Lesnar makes $12 million a year for like 5 matches. Seems like the winner to me.
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Why does everyone have such a hard on for the guy that does 3 (4 if you include strikes) moves, only works once every 3-4 months, and gets gassed on his way to the ring :/

I used to preach the word of Lesnar but man the routine is old af now and his matches are boring as fuck and basically all the exact same. 10 german suplexes, opponent magically gets in some offense by attacking brocks leg for a couple minutes, 5 more German suplexes, F-5, F-5, pin. Every now and then they change it up and throw a kimura in there. That's it. The only good thing about Brock is Heyman.
He's fucking glorious and is a master worker. The moves he does actually count, and his face in the ring belongs to a psycho killer that is having a ball being the best at what he does.

Guy is also possibly the best seller in wrestling today. I go back and watch Brock vs. Bryan all the time, just to see Brock sell Bryan's kicks. No one has ever sold them better. Ever.
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I was gonna say Shane McMahon. But, let's not get carried away and take the gag further.

A.J. Styles, but by the slimmest of margins. I was skeptical at first with him signing with WWE and thinking he would just be a different guy altogether wrestling the WWE style. Instead, he hasn't lost a beat. And he's put on some great matches since he's been there.
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Brock, not even close.

He is a believable beast and as others have said above, he is a master of the craft. His selling, reactions and no wasted energy. Every move means something. Royal Rumble performance was great. It would have been boring in the hands of almost anyone else, but it just showed how good he is.

A lot of the flippers no no sellers need to look at Brock tbh
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Depends on your definition of best.

Brock Lesnar makes $12 million a year for like 5 matches. Seems like the winner to me.
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Old 02-02-2020, 05:10 PM   #25
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Okada has my vote too, he's so good at everything. It's really not fair.
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The old Seth Rollins "let's compare bank accounts and see who's a better wrestler" play. Terrible.
You guys clearly missed my point. It all depends on how you clarify what best means.

I used dollars earned as an example that without set guidelines you can use whatever you want. We can say so and so is best because of this or that.

Truth is, unlike the women thread, there is far too big of a talent pool of male wrestlers to narrow it down to anything outside of say a top 15 without a specific order.

Lesnar, Cody, Okada, Rollins, Styles, Bryan, Omega, Jericho, Ospreay, Reigns, Orton, Pac, Cole, Keith freaking Lee.

That's not even counting the guys who have been or could still be like Kenta, Nakamura, Balor, etc.
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Old 02-02-2020, 07:36 PM   #30
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How many tickets and how much merch is Brock moving? Because ticket sales are dwindling, network numbers are dwindling, RAW has the weaker ratings of the 2 big shows, and the last numbers I could find don't have Brock cracking the top 20 (couldn't find a list showing past 20) in WWE merchandise sales.
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You guys clearly missed my point. It all depends on how you clarify what best means.

I used dollars earned as an example that without set guidelines you can use whatever you want. We can say so and so is best because of this or that.

Truth is, unlike the women thread, there is far too big of a talent pool of male wrestlers to narrow it down to anything outside of say a top 15 without a specific order.

Lesnar, Cody, Okada, Rollins, Styles, Bryan, Omega, Jericho, Ospreay, Reigns, Orton, Pac, Cole, Keith freaking Lee.

That's not even counting the guys who have been or could still be like Kenta, Nakamura, Balor, etc.
Does it impact your enjoyment of a match knowing how much a wrestler is getting paid? Are the guys on the biggest contracts the only ones you want to watch? Is alleged 700k a year Riddick Moss better than Tomohiro Ishii by any logic?
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Old 02-02-2020, 08:44 PM   #37
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I don't see the need to jump on xrod. He's just saying Brock has the business by the balls. There's something to that.
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