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Old 08-21-2018, 09:05 PM   #81
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So not only are Becky's actions Justified but she's also a "yeah I said what I said fight me "heel

How does any of this make her the bad guy it makes her that much cooler
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:05 PM   #82
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Hope they're still going after commercials.
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:05 PM   #83
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That was pretty bad overall for whatever WWE hoped to accomplish.
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:06 PM   #84
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If there were plans to put the belt on Becky for a bit, that will probably change. They will actively try and make her look as dumb, foolish, incompetent and ineffective as possible to try and shake the fans out of liking her. They will not make her a babyface even though she is to their paying audience. She will start losing all her matches and the announcers will say "See! Becky's not that good! See!"
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:06 PM   #85
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I hate this company so much.
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:06 PM   #86
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Hey look there's Asuka another person who is screwed over by this company
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:07 PM   #87
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Jesus WWE is so stubborn or ignorant.

Charlotte is not getting cheered over Becky.
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:08 PM   #88
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*Beckys music hits and she gets a huge pop*

Becky: "Charlotte you turned your back on me just like these fans turned their back on me so screw you all"

*Fans murmur to each other confused*

*Heel turn goes on for 3 weeks filled with 'cheap heat' until no one cares anymore*
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:09 PM   #89
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It breaks my heart, because Charlotte could be a legitimate star and they're leaving so much money on the table by making her toxic.
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Jesus WWE is so stubborn or ignorant.

Charlotte is not getting cheered over Becky.
That's the Silver Lining to this although with this company based on how they treat Roman Reigns it won't matter that no matter how much they make Charlotte out to be the better one she's never going to be more loved than Becky

This company has this amazing ability to not grasp the concept of underdogs
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They are going to fuck with Becky's shit mercilessly and it's just going to get fans more and more aggressively behind her. But it will piss off Vince and Kevin Dunn instead of them just going with it.
Not enough people say it, but Kevin Dunn has the be the biggest asshole in the company. I honestly can't remember anybody saying they like him personally.
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:13 PM   #92
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This is small-scale in comparison, but this reminds me of the Goldberg heel turn. "You people stopped cheering for me!" *Crowd chants Goldberg*

We're all down on the product because it sucks, but I don't think it is stressed enough just how fucking weird and dumb it is. Like, if WWE goes out of business, shit like this is stupid enough to warrant talking heads from another company doing a documentary making fun of it. "They actually thought Becky Lynch would get booed against Charlotte."
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:14 PM   #93
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Not enough people say it, but Kevin Dunn has the be the biggest asshole in the company. I honestly can't remember anybody saying they like him personally.
Even Paul Bearer hated his guts which is shocking since Bearer had the rep of being one of the nicest people to hang around with back in the day.
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:15 PM   #94
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They literally only have a few people that give a fuck about the product, and they are so hell-bent on taking the few people that those few people care about, and doing their absolute best, actively, to make them not care.
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:17 PM   #95
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Let's keep coming to the small screen on Smackdown whenever the women are involved.

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Old 08-21-2018, 09:17 PM   #96
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Kevin Dunn needs to go. Give him his $10 million severance package or whatever and put someone better in position.
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They even put it in the script that the fans would be cheering...
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Not enough people say it, but Kevin Dunn has the be the biggest asshole in the company. I honestly can't remember anybody saying they like him personally.
Something tells me that when Triple H gets power he cannot wait to fire dunn
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Dunn will go, but Hayes and Road Dogg will still be around.
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This is small-scale in comparison, but this reminds me of the Goldberg heel turn. "You people stopped cheering for me!" *Crowd chants Goldberg*

We're all down on the product because it sucks, but I don't think it is stressed enough just how fucking weird and dumb it is. Like, if WWE goes out of business, shit like this is stupid enough to warrant talking heads from another company doing a documentary making fun of it. "They actually thought Becky Lynch would get booed against Charlotte."
Lol right. How you can get instant feedback from your audience and not listen is crazy.

WWE doesn't just ignore it, they try to change it by editing cheers out, burying talent that get over when it wasn't the plan, and almost always refuse to go with the flow.

Why they would rather go against the grain then just pushing the people that are over the most is insane.

Based on crowd reaction, Becky should have won. Instead, let's have her lose and turn her heel, cause that makes sense.
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Lol right. How you can get instant feedback from your audience and not listen is crazy.

WWE doesn't just ignore it, they try to change it by editing cheers out, burying talent that get over when it wasn't the plan, and almost always refuse to go with the flow.

Why they would rather go against the grain then just pushing the people that are over the most is insane.

Based on crowd reaction, Becky should have won. Instead, let's have her lose and turn her heel, cause that makes sense.
It's so fucking weird, and WWE have normalized it.

Anyone else in any other industry will hear a reaction like that and think "They're telling you something," whereas this carny show is like "No, dammit -- you will pay for what I tell you to pay for." It's so fucking weird.
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Let's just all stops to appreciate the fact that not only does Nakamura get what it means to be a heel he gets what it means to be the US champion as a heel
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It's so fucking weird, and WWE have normalized it.

Anyone else in any other industry will hear a reaction like that and think "They're telling you something," whereas this carny show is like "No, dammit -- you will pay for what I tell you to pay for." It's so fucking weird.
Vince McMahon's motto is seemingly you don't like what you like I tell you what you like
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:24 PM   #108
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Like...it stops WWE from being legit in my mind. As long as that Vince McMahon mentality is there, WWE is never going to be truly accepted into the mainstream. It's just way too carny and off-putting to general audiences. They will flop on FOX if Vince is there, because it is really fucking bad television and it deserves to be mocked like they so gleefully do with WCW.
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:25 PM   #109
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I'm fine with becky losing but you can tell the crowd is white hot for her and this is what you do, needless heel turn.
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You can only be so good when you try to piss on the tastes of your paying customer. It's just that simple. Inside the wrestling bubble, we are used to it, but from outside it just looks like masochism.
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If we're watching on TV we aren't with you guys in Brooklyn Mr Phillips
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:29 PM   #114
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I'm fine with becky losing but you can tell the crowd is white hot for her and this is what you do, needless heel turn.
It's got nothing to do with her losing. It's got to do with 10,000 paying people or whatever having their emotion turned away.
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This company is seriously like a cult.
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Somehow Vince and his Yes men labor under the delusion that if they shove it down our throats long enough we will start to accept it
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Did Styles seriously sign off on this after the crap he went through at TNA?
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:32 PM   #119
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Nice of Joe to put Styles to bed early tonight.
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If you don't watch for a while, it's jarring to listen to how every announcer talks with the voice of Vince McMahon. Even the ones you think of as good. Renee Young and Corey Graves are not immune from this. You will hear the buzzwords that you can tell Vince has ordered them to hammer.
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