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Old 05-03-2012, 03:29 PM   #29801
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Brock Lesnar was told he would be losing to John Cena at Extreme Rules several weeks back. Lesnar has made it clear that he’s about the money, not the ego, and if they want him to lose, he has no problem with it as long as they play fair with him.

According to sources, it was made clear to Cena and Lesnar that their feud would be a one-match program. Officials felt that Lesnar could leave at any time and they needed their top guy getting the win first time out to make sure that it happened.

WWE has already used 5 of Lesnar’s limited dates in the first month of his contract so expect him to be used sparingly if at all over the next few months. With that said, Lesnar vs. Triple H for SummerSlam is in the works.

Source: WON
I guess this probably rules out Cena vs Lesnar at Mania if they never had plans for it to begin with. Also means the WWE is going to work a lot harder to stretch Lesnar to Mania than with the Rock since they knew which dates the Rock was available from his movie work.
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dunno, doesn't seem too hard to work around a 30 date maximum from now to Mania, it's about 6 months on, 4 months off. If they bring him back around the end of July for SummerSlam, a couple of months away at the end of the year and they're pretty much sorted
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bit of a difference between a guy who's been doing it for 30 years and a magazine model with 2 years "experience"
Thats what i mean though, Lawler hasnt done it in any WWE matches in years, his finish as of the last lot of years is the fist drop off the middile turnbuckle. He always goes for the piledriver but it consistantly gets reversed, i cant remember the last time he actually hit it, id guess you're talking 5 years plus.

Considering the amount of manouveres they do allow its suprising that that style of piledriver is still outlawed. The sitout tombstone as we all know can be dodgy, but the variation of piledriver in that vid should be safe for just about any wrestler to deliver with some practice.
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but with how many guys they have that aren't "technically proficient"/full on greenhorns etc, it's no surprise. I only mention the 30 years part because of you mentioning "fine at a basketball game". If there's anybody on the face of the earth I'd trust piledrive me on a basketball court, it'd be Lawler. In fact, I'd rather take a piledriver from King on a basketball court than a bunch of WWE guys in a wrestling ring.

And it's not so much piledrivers outlawed as it is head drops in general I think. I can't think of anything off the top of my head (so I could be wrong) that guys are permitted to/do use on a regular basis more dangerous than a piledriver
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dunno, doesn't seem too hard to work around a 30 date maximum from now to Mania, it's about 6 months on, 4 months off. If they bring him back around the end of July for SummerSlam, a couple of months away at the end of the year and they're pretty much sorted
I figured they would just spread the appearances over the 12 months without any major downtime. Like how he missed the Raw in London. They could have him for 2 out of 4 Raw episodes leading into the PPV. The rest could be pre-recorded backstage interviews/altercation, promos via satellite, etc.

That way they can feature him on every PPV and he can help the buyrate.

Guess they figure it's better to have him for the full schedule in the build to 6-7 PPVs that the full load.
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but with how many guys they have that aren't "technically proficient"/full on greenhorns etc, it's no surprise. I only mention the 30 years part because of you mentioning "fine at a basketball game". If there's anybody on the face of the earth I'd trust piledrive me on a basketball court, it'd be Lawler. In fact, I'd rather take a piledriver from King on a basketball court than a bunch of WWE guys in a wrestling ring.

And it's not so much piledrivers outlawed as it is head drops in general I think. I can't think of anything off the top of my head (so I could be wrong) that guys are permitted to/do use on a regular basis more dangerous than a piledriver
Some guys (coughAlex Rileycough) can't even take a powerbomb properly let alone a piledriver
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How akward did that look.
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lol I think he gets a bit of a rough deal for that, any 2 guys can ruin an entire match by just not "syncing" right/the timing not quite being there between them
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gotta love Swagger though for just hossing it through
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dunno, doesn't seem too hard to work around a 30 date maximum from now to Mania, it's about 6 months on, 4 months off. If they bring him back around the end of July for SummerSlam, a couple of months away at the end of the year and they're pretty much sorted
I think he only has 25 dates left now. At least in the Rock's case, the WWE didn't really have to plan out the dates since they knew which dates the Rock was free to use (live or satellite) and he was only used in one feud.

Triple H vs Lesnar is probably going to eat a chunk of the dates left since no way that ends after 1 match/ppv.

WWE probably won't be as bad as TNA was with RVD where they wasted almost all his dates early on and then had to take the title off of him since he couldn't defend it without using up more dates.
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lol I think he gets a bit of a rough deal for that, any 2 guys can ruin an entire match by just not "syncing" right/the timing not quite being there between them
THREE TIMES!?!?!?!
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gotta love Swagger though for just hossing it through
Wish i could find that video of Stevie Ray sandbagging The Giant and getting drilled with the Chokeslam anyway, that was a real jaw dropper. Of course not on youtube anymore.

Edit: found it

ed 2 vid with slow mo added

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THREE TIMES!?!?!?!
once that momentum is gone and both guys are trying too hard to "get it back", everything can go to shit very easily. Guys stop communicating, start rushing etc and it all just falls apart. I'd put money on Swagger not giving him a cue to go for the 2nd attempt because it was live on RAW and he was rushing. Literally can take a split second of mistiming for something like that to happen, especially something like a gutwrench, that relies on timing/fluid motion/momentum etc.
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Wish i could find that video of Stevie Ray sandbagging The Giant and getting drilled with the Chokeslam anyway, that was a real jaw dropper. Of course not on youtube anymore.

Edit: found it

even here you can see the mistiming in the slow motion bit, doesn't look like he sandbags him, seems Stevie's still dipping downwards to spring off and go up when Giant is starting to lift him. Split-second of mistiming and that's how it turns out. If there's even a bit of momentum from Stevie in the right direction, given the fact Show still got him up, he probably soars up and it looks "how it's supposed to". Crazy strength
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I cant be sure but i think i remember someone saying that on the dvd they edited that chokeslam out entirely and instead used a different camera angle shot of this one later in the match:
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once that momentum is gone and both guys are trying too hard to "get it back", everything can go to shit very easily. Guys stop communicating, start rushing etc and it all just falls apart. I'd put money on Swagger not giving him a cue to go for the 2nd attempt because it was live on RAW and he was rushing. Literally can take a split second of mistiming for something like that to happen, especially something like a gutwrench, that relies on timing/fluid motion/momentum etc.
Yeah, I know. The "THREE TIMES!?!?!?!" was kind of tongue in cheek.
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I cant be sure but i think i remember someone saying that on the dvd they edited that chokeslam out entirely and instead used a different camera angle shot of this one later in the match:
Wow, if that's legit, they did an awesome job of covering that up. DVD I have of the event has the crappy Chokeslam, though.
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Dustin looks like the normal of the two Rhodes siblings in that picture.
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:33 AM   #29828
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:45 AM   #29829
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:56 AM   #29830
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Thats what i mean though, Lawler hasnt done it in any WWE matches in years, his finish as of the last lot of years is the fist drop off the middile turnbuckle. He always goes for the piledriver but it consistantly gets reversed, i cant remember the last time he actually hit it, id guess you're talking 5 years plus.

Considering the amount of manouveres they do allow its suprising that that style of piledriver is still outlawed. The sitout tombstone as we all know can be dodgy, but the variation of piledriver in that vid should be safe for just about any wrestler to deliver with some practice.
Lawler wrestles indy matches on a weekly basis that have nothing to do with WWE.
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:18 AM   #29831
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:25 AM   #29832
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That was my first thought when I saw the title.
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:02 PM   #29835
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Ryback's theme does sound familiar to me but I can't put my finger on it.

Was probably BGM for one of the games or something.
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Damn, was on WWE.com and was looking at HBK's profile under the Hall of Fame. It finally just sunk into me that Shawn Michaels will likely never wrestle again and is absolutely done as anything close to a regular character. Feeling old, confused and sad.

Much like Vince McMahon, I'm sure.
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:45 PM   #29839
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:08 PM   #29840
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