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Old 11-19-2018, 10:49 AM   #401
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Becky was getting a pop no matter what she did post match. So if this was the angle, I’m glad they did it with Charlotte. It fully turned her heel and now I hope that they take her and trade her to Raw and let Becky run with Smackdown.
But do we need heel Flair and heel Becky (she is technically a heel).
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I've been watching the show from the beginning with no spoilers but it's so boring. The Cruiserweight Title match was really good and the end of the women's Survivor Series was really good but The US/IC collision was boring and the tag match was forgettable. I'm on the men of Raw vs the men of Smackdown now.
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Joe was just squashed, I hate that.
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Nakamura's gear was fucking stupid
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Old 11-19-2018, 01:23 PM   #407
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Except Shane of course wears a baseball jersey.
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Old 11-19-2018, 01:24 PM   #408
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Wow Miz is becoming babyface.
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Wow Finn and Miz seem to have really great chemistry.
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Old 11-19-2018, 01:44 PM   #411
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I loved the Raw vs Smackdown man match. Good story.
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Old 11-19-2018, 02:15 PM   #412
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This Rousey/Flair match is insane. Totally going to Mania.
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Ending of the Ronda/Charlotte match was so brutal. Ronda was covered in damage.
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Old 11-19-2018, 02:34 PM   #414
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I hope that, the next time Enzo does that shit, the Authors beat his ass. Actually, just have the Authors beat his ass on principle.
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Great match with Brock and Bryan. 3 really good matches on the show I'd have to say thumbs up but the start was quite boring.
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the final 3 matches saved the show. the rest was pretty forgettable. Ronda/Flair was epic though so it made the whole thing worth it.
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Daniel Bryan is a great human being and possibly my favorite professional wrestler ever. My fucking god, what a masterpiece. And Brock Lesnar is one of the best sellers in professional wrestling. He's beautiful. Bryan's first kick shook him to his core. A chop block and a wrap around the ring post and he is sucked into the agony of the moment. What a fucking genius.

People can be down on the booking around him, and maybe he's not worth as much money as they are paying him; but my god, if you have the talent around him, he's worth a major investment. There are so many smaller guys with far less inherent credibility that could learn a lot from watching how Brock works instead of being resentful of his position.

I fucking hate the shirts. These PPVs could feel quite epic is they were based on just who the guys they are, but they aesthetically dilute things by making them look like geeks. Unless you are Shane McMahon, of course. When they did the Bragging Rights PPV, they taped the ropes up to be half-red/half-blue. Do that and have the guys start out in their corners. Mention it in their introduction. It's really only a story for people at home anyway, so the commentators can do it. The shirt thing needs to stop. When Nakamura is in blue pants, we know who he is representing. Actually, just lose the Raw/SmackDown things, it's fucking stupid.

By the way, commentary is fucking brutal. It's so bad. If you don't watch a WWE show for some time and then come back, you realize how fucking useless it all is. Nigel McGuinness sounds like he's good, but the rest of the people -- and I know people like Renee and Corey -- are just fucking abysmal. It detracts from the story they are telling. They are so broad and obtuse and obvious to the point that they completely gloss over the subtleties of what's actually happening when people are out there and know what they are doing.

I'm happy for Charlotte -- I really am. The Becky "heel turn" hurt her position as a face. Charlotte came off like a star, but people just don't want to cheer her over Becky. They kind of jeopardized the perception of the Ronda/Charlotte match they had planned by doing it. I'm a little fatigued by all the heel turns every week. We've had Gargano, Ambrose, Bryan, Charlotte, Becky -- it's all just very arbitrary. She looked like a beast though. I do worry that this is further planning to subterfuge Becky though. Never bought Becky vs. Ronda being the big plan. I wonder if they are trying to make Charlotte "bad-ass" so they can make Becky "good girl" and fuck around with that?
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My big problem with the elimination matches is that when you make the teams faces and heels, you load them up with big names, so it's possible for someone to look goofy by going early. You've got a lot of losers in that match.

I'm not that bummed out by Joe going first. He's a pro. He knows what his role in the company is. There is buzz he is hurt, so if they're taking it easy on him, then it's a testament to his skill that they trust him to work that way. They also seem to be "killing him off" as a heel. He couldn't win the belt, he couldn't beat Jeff Hardy -- I feel like they might turn him face soon and that his losses and just to get him pissed off and focused, in storylines. Or maybe Zelina Vega saves him and he teams with Almas? That would be fun.

But yeah, they're also really high on Drew. If Drew handily taking someone out is good enough for Kurt Angle, I can see Joe reasoning it's good enough for him. He's being a good soldier and he's going to get more opportunities to do so. Not everybody can be pushed as hard as each other all the time. I'm sure he knows the go.
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Old 11-19-2018, 07:38 PM   #419
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Does this mean Noid actually watched the ppv...
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No, it means I don't mind Joe going out really quick as much as others seem to. Wtf is wrong with people here? Why can't anyone read?
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They’d better be turning Joe face. Aside from one time where AJ got himself DQ’d I think Joe has lost every PPV match he’s had on the main roster.
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I think this gets lost in all the "Brock is phoning it in" narrative. He's a monster so he doesn't sell like a Seth Rollins is going to. But when he does sell, Goddammit, it's effective. When he's booked in something that isn't a 5 minute squash, he makes the other guy look good simply by shedding his monster shield temporarily.
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Also, Samoa Joe should be a focus of the main event scene. He's a star. And I don't use that word lightly with today's roster.
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They’d better be turning Joe face. Aside from one time where AJ got himself DQ’d I think Joe has lost every PPV match he’s had on the main roster.
Everything in WWE is a test. And I think we sometimes lose sight that Vince is very hands-on. Joe might have lost every PPV or whatever, but given he's worked with Brock, Reigns and AJ, I bet he's worked pretty closely with Vince. Sure, plans do change on the fly, but I'm fairly certain Joe would have been under no disillusionment he was winning the belt off anyone.

He'd know his role and what he's out there to do. I do think a face turn is possible, because you've got so many heels on Smackers at the moment. Bryan, Orton, Nakamura, Sullivan has to go somewhere. Joe kind of overlaps some of them into "heel bad-ass" and others into "indy cred heel looking for a push." I feel like they could be burning him out as a heel, because they trust him to make others look great, and then he'll lose it and become a bad-ass babyface, because they don't really have many of those.

But maybe not. Either way, Joe's a pro. He's special, but he's special enough to do this sort of stuff. Like, it's not the best use for him in the world, but they trust him to do this stuff. Vince knows how good he is.

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I think this gets lost in all the "Brock is phoning it in" narrative. He's a monster so he doesn't sell like a Seth Rollins is going to. But when he does sell, Goddammit, it's effective. When he's booked in something that isn't a 5 minute squash, he makes the other guy look good simply by shedding his monster shield temporarily.
I think you're spot-on. I think we'd both agree that he shouldn't be selling like a mug constantly, but I think fans want to see him go 50/50 with people all the time, not realizing how it makes it special when he does.

But my god, when he does it he is so good. He took the best Yes Kicks in the entire history of Bryan giving out that move. He was rolling around there like he was legit trying to get out from underneath.

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Also, Samoa Joe should be a focus of the main event scene. He's a star. And I don't use that word lightly with today's roster.
Agreed. He's got presence and charisma. One of the best promos in the company. He gets to be more direct. He comes off like a real bad-ass. One of the few "complete packages" they've got. I'd say AJ Styles, John Cena, Daniel Bryan, Brock Lesnar and Randy Orton are the only real ones they've got. Very different degrees and styles to them though.
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I thought you would throw Seth Rollins in with that group. While I'm pleasantly surprised you didn't, I'm also curious why you put Styles in over him.
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Old 11-20-2018, 07:46 PM   #426
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Seth's funny with me. In the ring, he's obviously very good, and I always think "Oh, Seth's in there, that would be a good match," but he does shit that annoys the fuck out of me too. Like the buckle bomb and some of his dives seem really careless and make me cringe, which take me out of the match. But I also hate his superplex into the Falcon Arrow that never beats anyone. And when he was doing the Pedigree that looked shitty, but that's just petty.

On the mic, I've actually enjoyed some of his work. He gets a rep for being shit, but I think he knows what makes a good promo, then he's just scripted to fuck. His delivery is "fine." His acting is pretty bad and I don't feel he projects a star quality despite being comfortable.

Seth is kind of a perfect example to me of "B+". If you asked me to think of a B+ wrestler, he's probably where my mind goes to. He's "very good," but he's missing these crucial things. Plus, I get the feeling that he really wants to be Hiroshi Tanahashi. It's not bad to have influences and even wear them on your sleeve a little bit, but I really get the feeling that his dream is to be someone else in New Japan.

I know you're not as high on AJ Styles as me, but to me Styles just brings more psychology to the things he does. The way he bumps seems more organic too. I live and die with the guy a lot more than I do Seth. I feel like he's always had this "X-Factor" about him, even since TNA. I was never a fanboy or anything, but he just seems like the sort of wrestler the people I know who used to like wrestling would think is "cool." He fits that Rey Mysterio/Jeff Hardy/Rob Van Dam mold, but then he's grown and developed into this guy that reminds me of a Shawn Michaels or Bret Hart.

And I like him on the mic. He's not outstanding like Dusty Rhodes or The Rock or anything, but he's so confident in himself that he sounds comfortable with the script he's got, and he doesn't sound nearly as fake as so many other guys who really try to force these odd emotions out -- see Seth Rollins on Raw. I believe Styles a lot more, or it at least bothers me less that I don't.

I don't think he's the tippy-top guy. Maybe it's his size or just how his charisma works, but I do consider him a much better overall worker than Seth Rollins. And Styles has been doing it for much longer, so it could just be experience. But Styles feels more grown into himself to me.
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Old 11-21-2018, 10:51 AM   #427
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they really do script the fuck out of Seth Rollins and it comes off so bad. case in point, go back and watch his Survivor Series promo and then watch Charlotte's, who was right after I believe. it was night and day. he's a great worker and i do typically enjoy all his matches, but please just let him do his own thing.
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I've liked exactly one Seth Rollins promo. He put over how good Dean Ambrose was on an episode of SmackDown, but that he was better (this was when they were feuding). I can't remember the exact verbiage, but it was psychologically sound and got me pumped to see their personalities clash. I always just assumed it slipped through on SmackDown because that seems like a show they'd pay less attention to.
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