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Old 10-17-2019, 02:27 AM   #52561
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Old 10-17-2019, 05:05 PM   #52562
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Alvarez and Meltzer were discussing during their review of RAW where this week's episode and WWE in general ranks compared to WCW. They came to agreement that current WWE is around late '98 WCW in terms of overall quality.

Nowhere bad enough to be hitting legendary WCW 2000 levels of awfulness but inching closer to the Jan. 4, 1999 point of no return.
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Old 10-17-2019, 08:17 PM   #52563
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According to the Observer, WWE's big pitch to Stardom for a potential deal was them guaranteeing a spot in their Hall of Fame for Stardom's boss.

Besides not being interested, Stardom also found out WWE doesn't have any real plans for NXT Japan in regards to who's running the brand or the status of talent for work and potential restrictions.

WWE probably thought their name value alone would have made big name and notable Japanese companies flock to NXT Japan considering that was the tactic used for the US and UK/Europe.
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Old 10-17-2019, 10:04 PM   #52564
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Wanted to hear that Mr. Wonderful theme in action and came across this gem:

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Old 10-18-2019, 02:20 AM   #52565
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Lol yeah they actually had a feud.

Such an amazing theme. Haha Bobby Heenan is hilarious in this. I've never seen that match before. Incredible.
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:31 AM   #52566
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Saw Omega’s Dark match. Pretty wild.
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:48 AM   #52567
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He's having dark matches lol. He has fallen fast.
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Old 10-18-2019, 08:15 AM   #52568
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He’s wrestled one dark match in three weeks of Dynamite, and that dark match was after the show and was the de-facto main event for the live audience. He also appeared on that show to continue building his feud with Moxley which is a major program heading into the next PPV.

“Falling fast”
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Old 10-18-2019, 08:38 AM   #52569
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an that one so called dark match was for there youtube show dark which they wanted to get viewers for on Tuesday night.
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Old 10-18-2019, 10:06 AM   #52570
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Expecting anything intelligent to come from STD is a big ask, boys.
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Old 10-18-2019, 11:07 AM   #52571
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He's having dark matches lol. He has fallen fast.
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Old 10-18-2019, 11:45 AM   #52572
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He's having dark matches lol. He has fallen fast.
Not sure if you’re keeping up with the product.
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Old 10-18-2019, 11:55 AM   #52573
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I'll give STD the benefit of the doubt and assume he's telling a joke.
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Old 10-18-2019, 12:01 PM   #52574
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Old 10-18-2019, 01:45 PM   #52575
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I'll give STD the benefit of the doubt and assume he's telling a joke.
Which is most likely the case but I can’t resist a good rib.
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Old 10-18-2019, 01:58 PM   #52576
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I bet Jim Cornette makes the same joke in his podcast next week.
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Old 10-18-2019, 03:50 PM   #52577
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I bet Noid neg reps me when I say Jim Cornette is irrelevant
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Old 10-18-2019, 04:52 PM   #52578
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Old 10-18-2019, 05:17 PM   #52579
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“Eric had absolutely no vision, and once we were headed into FOX, everything was falling through the cracks,” said one WWE official. “He messed up multiple times with FOX. Eric also had no stamina for the rigors of the job.”

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The stamina for the job was going to do be a problem for almost everyone. Bischoff, 64, was in a company where it is not unusual for Vince McMahon’s creative meetings to start hours late and often last until 3 a.m., and sometimes later. Bischoff would work a full day, go out to dinner with his wife, and people would complain that after 7 p.m., on certain days, he would become impossible to reach. The reality is the hours and demands were going to be difficult for almost anyone at any age. The other reality is that Bischoff’s success with WCW, which was actually relatively short-lived, was largely due to people like Hulk Hogan and Zane Bresloff, who were not there for him this time, and Hogan was in TNA and that period didn’t go well either. And both were there for him in WCW, and that place eventually went down the tubes due to the company running off its fans at record-setting levels.

Bischoff was unfamiliar with the talent and many of the business changes when he arrived. In very short order, it had become more how the company would make the inevitable move and handle it publicly after pushing so strong to investors about the value of the hiring. When Ryan Ward burned out as the head writer of Smackdown, and Ed Koskey from Raw was moved over, a lot of people expected Bischoff to be the next casualty.
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Old 10-18-2019, 05:24 PM   #52580
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How dare that sonofagun spend time with his wife that bastard!
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Old 10-18-2019, 05:33 PM   #52581
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For those that watch MLW's weekly Fusion show on Youtube, MLW announced they very likely will be leaving the platform soon.

Main issue is them not being able to bring in enough money from Youtube ever since Youtube lowered the ad rate payout for wrestling content a couple years ago. Seems Youtube made other changes recently that have also negatively affected MLW.
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Old 10-18-2019, 05:35 PM   #52582
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Old 10-18-2019, 05:57 PM   #52583
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How dare that sonofagun spend time with his wife that bastard!
To be honest, I don't blame Bisch. Once you hit any sort of a senior management role, your work-life balance goes out the window. The 8-5 work day is dead. You're always on the clock. It's not for everyone.
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Old 10-18-2019, 06:08 PM   #52584
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“Eric had absolutely no vision, and once we were headed into FOX, everything was falling through the cracks,” said one WWE official. “He messed up multiple times with FOX. Eric also had no stamina for the rigors of the job.”
How in the fuck do these so called "creative" meetings last so long? They're making a wrestling show, not a fucking Martin Scorsese flick.

For the amount of time they supposedly put into it, it sure doesn't translate well on screen.
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Old 10-18-2019, 06:17 PM   #52585
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I'm guessing everyone pitches ideas, Vince says no to everything, Vince says "we're not leaving this room until we have a show dammit!" and that just continues until Vince decides hes bored and wants to go to the gym.
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Old 10-18-2019, 06:34 PM   #52586
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I imagine Vince just autisticly screeches at this point and leaves everyone else trying to figure out wtf he wants
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Old 10-18-2019, 06:39 PM   #52587
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I imagine Vince just autisticly screeches at this point and leaves everyone else trying to figure out wtf he wants
That's why someone called in Bruce lol
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Old 10-18-2019, 06:51 PM   #52588
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I'm guessing everyone pitches ideas, Vince says no to everything, Vince says "we're not leaving this room until we have a show dammit!" and that just continues until Vince decides hes bored and wants to go to the gym.
And then Vince just rewrites everything himself right before a show starts.

Nothing beats the story of him abruptly calling a bunch of creative writers for them to go to his summer house one day to work on some plans.

By the time they arrived, he either forgot why he called them or suddenly decided he actually didn't want to do any work that day and told them all to quickly leave his house.
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Old 10-18-2019, 07:58 PM   #52589
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I can't even fathom how a creative meeting can last until 3 AM. What are they even talking about? There's about 10 minutes of story progression a week. 80% of the roster never have storylines outside of 'developed quite the rivalry'.

What a shit place to work.
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Old 10-18-2019, 08:04 PM   #52590
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Old 10-18-2019, 09:09 PM   #52591
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Old 10-18-2019, 11:00 PM   #52592
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For those that watch MLW's weekly Fusion show on Youtube, MLW announced they very likely will be leaving the platform soon.

Main issue is them not being able to bring in enough money from Youtube ever since Youtube lowered the ad rate payout for wrestling content a couple years ago. Seems Youtube made other changes recently that have also negatively affected MLW.
Kind of sucks. DirecTV doesn't carry BeiN sports anymore so I won't be able to watch anymore. Could move it to FITE maybe.
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Old 10-19-2019, 01:13 AM   #52593
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Old 10-19-2019, 01:15 AM   #52594
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Old 10-19-2019, 06:25 AM   #52595
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For those that watch MLW's weekly Fusion show on Youtube, MLW announced they very likely will be leaving the platform soon.

Main issue is them not being able to bring in enough money from Youtube ever since Youtube lowered the ad rate payout for wrestling content a couple years ago. Seems Youtube made other changes recently that have also negatively affected MLW.
whats youtube doing now, like they want to chase the wrestling fans off. wonder how long nwa will do there show power before they leave.
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Old 10-19-2019, 08:51 AM   #52596
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Arguments. Making time for every suggestion. Recaps.

That's how you get to 3am.
And when all's said and done, Vince does what he wants anyway. Wasn't it said a while back they have like 25-30 writing staff, yet in the late 90's there was 3 or 4 "bookers" and it was an infinitely better product.
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Old 10-19-2019, 09:19 AM   #52597
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Old 10-19-2019, 09:59 AM   #52598
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Old 10-19-2019, 11:28 AM   #52599
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Old 10-19-2019, 01:18 PM   #52600
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I don't think I had seen this footage or read this story before... Inoki was legit boy lemme tell ya.
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