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Old 11-30-2017, 10:15 AM   #481
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Joss would never do a hack job? He was a script doctor for over decade. lol
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:16 AM   #482
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Old 11-30-2017, 12:54 PM   #483
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They should've shit canned Snyder after man of steel. The idea itself was interesting but never went anywhere and turned into disaster/destruction porn after the first hour or so.

They made a massive mistake giving Snyder free run on bvs as that turned out to be a flaming turd. Not sure what they were expecting with JL.

Ideally Snyder never touches any of these properties ever again. He's consistently delivered poor results, and has yet to replicate the success of the Nolan films from a critical or box office standpoint. The only film close is Wonder Woman, and that's not his movie

I'm not sure what they ever saw in him. He's consistently delivered divisive films. Never read it, but have been told by multiple people the point of Watchmen was heroes are normal flawed people just like the rest of us. Didn't get that vibe in Snyder's adaptation of it. 300 was ok, but again, panel for panel adaptation. His own take on characters are horrible. Sucker Punch is one of the worst films I've heard of. Never watched it.

I think they'll continue on with the shared universe but it won't be strictly adhered to. Like, Wonder Woman is obviously in the same universe, but it's its own thing and not dependant. I hope Aquaman is like that. And from the looks of it based on early comments, Reeves is doing his own thing with Batman, saying it's the same Batman but keeping the movie contained in its own world.

I think that's what's best for DC. Make good to great standalone films for a handful of years and actually build towards something. And when the timing is right and the stories make sense, bring the league back.

I'm hoping we get to see the Superman from the end of this film in his own go around. I know Matthew Vaughn wanted to do a sequel. Hopefully it's what we get. I love Cavill and I loved him in JL.
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Old 11-30-2017, 12:57 PM   #484
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TL;DR- Snyder sucks and should've been canned in 2013, keep doing what Jenkins did with WW and focus on good single stories, make Superman great again and worry about a team up later when it matters.
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Old 11-30-2017, 06:02 PM   #485
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I guess what we'd call a hack job are two different things.
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Old 11-30-2017, 07:28 PM   #487
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I guess what we'd call a hack job are two different things.
That or you dont know what films he did as a script doctor


Waterworld, speed, twister, the quick and the dead.

Hes literally my fav writer in hollywood an i own every thing he's done. Fanboy doesn cut it. But joss will totally take a pay check. Thats what script doctors do. They take turds and try and make them watchable.

This is what he did until 97 when he left to gp do buffy.
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Old 11-30-2017, 07:29 PM   #488
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And thats what they did here. They cut him a check and said save our turd.
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Old 11-30-2017, 07:29 PM   #489
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And like he did in the past he took a broken movie and made it average
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Which is a testement to his strength as a script doctor
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Old 11-30-2017, 08:49 PM   #492
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Funny thing is, Script Doctor is what I do call him. I just wouldn't say hack job.
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I think they should do it like they do their animated stuff have your continuity or whatever

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I said this about BvS and I will say the same about this movie... they are live-action DC Animated Movies. I like the animated DC films. That's the style of these movies, and thats not a bad thing in my opinion. I watched it once, I'll watch it again, and it will grow on me.
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Are most of these movies on netflix or something to binge and get up to date?
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Agree, but their animated movies usually get a great reception though.
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Agree, but their animated movies usually get a great reception though.
Because they are fantastic. A live-action version in the same vein just leaves something to be desired I guess. They are fine, and like I said, I enjoyed Justice League... but there isn't anything "EPIC" about it like there should be.
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Yeah the animated movies are actually good. Under The Red Hood is amazing
I remember not thinking much about that one....

Justice League New Frontier was amazing, though......

Haven't watched any DC Animated movies in awhile, though.....
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Old 12-03-2017, 04:26 PM   #507
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Because they are fantastic. A live-action version in the same vein just leaves something to be desired I guess. They are fine, and like I said, I enjoyed Justice League... but there isn't anything "EPIC" about it like there should be.
The key dif is the animated films are good
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Think you bumped the wrong thread. That being said, preview for next week's episode looks like a lot of fun too. Glad the show is back.
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Lol they were side by side
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Rumor until I find a credible source:


TL; DR version- WB execs put out a bad movie on PURPOSE for a quick payday.

Here's a timeline to explain-

-After the Batman trilogy, WB wanted Nolan to do Superman- but Nolan said no and instead pushed for Snyder (a family friend).

-During Man of Steel and BvS, Warner Brothers execs didn't even read Snyder's notes on the films... instead just trusting him.

- The President and The CEO of WB hated BvS so much that they wanted to fire Snyder from JL... but it was set to begin filming the following week so they kept him on and sent in a babysitter to oversee everything.
-Warner Brothers hated the direction JL was going and kept trying to get Snyder to change things, which he would but it was difficult and stressful for him.

-Snyder was about to quit or get fired when the tragedy happened with his family. He choose to get lost in the work and go all in to separate himself from the tragedy. He made it worse.

-Huge pressure from WB execs at this point who were understanding of what Snyder was facing in real life, but they were very against the movie. They called it a Frankenstein movie and said it was incoherent and made no sense and way too dark.

-Snyder quits to attend to his family.

***-INSTEAD of delaying the movie into 2018, WB CEO and President decide to bring in another director and throw in $100m studio money for reshoots for a quick turn around (This includes down to things like the infamous CGI over Superman's lip being done poorly- because they didn't have the time/resources) and to keep the release date BECAUSE if the movie was released in 2017 they would be able to apply it to their bonus checks for the year and get $$$$... but they were both sure they wouldn't have a job in 2018 so if the movie released then, they wouldn't get the bonus.

WB execs made a conscious decision to release a poor product which they acknowledged would be bad- simply because it would mean $ up front for them.
This story was confirmed this week by basically every news source.
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