MLB 2005 Season Thread - Page 25

**Loose Cannon** · 08-28-2005, 02:03 PM

6/10 verse Zack Greinke. Yeah, Shawn had a field day against this clown that was throwing BP as his pitching line of 6/10/2005 would indicate.

ROFL

**The Miz** · 08-28-2005, 03:05 PM

6/30 verse Noah Lowery. In one of the most memorable pinch hit home runs of the baseball season, Shawn Green came off the bench to launch a solo shot off of Noah Lowery in the 5th inning to ruin Lowery's shut out and cut the Dback deficit to 9-1.

**The Outlaw** · 08-28-2005, 04:51 PM

ROFLLL

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-28-2005, 06:44 PM

I am not defending Schilling to the grave here BCWWF haha - All I said was I don't think he is done, and I don't see the big deal about him calling Palmerio a scumbag.

All he did was go on WEEI, a radio station in Boston, and voice his opinion on Palmerio. I don't think he was really intrested who cared what he thought, the radio host asked him a question and he answered it. Now I can see where in other cases where Schilling has too much, or been too vocal or whatever. Not in this case though.

RP · 08-28-2005, 06:49 PM

I think Schilling should probably worry about his pitching a little more and worry about Palmerieo a little less.

**The Miz** · 08-28-2005, 07:28 PM

But he looked fantabulous against perennial MVP candidates Angel Berroa and Mark Teahen

**VonErich Lives** · 08-28-2005, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

I think Schilling should probably worry about his pitching a little more and worry about Palmerieo a little less.

I think you should stick to "Colts Talk"

Schilling didn't wake up and say "I need to talk about Ralphie the Scum Bag"

If he did, think he would have waited?

No, someone asked him about it.

Really, you guys are acting like Schilling called a press confrence and release a statement, someone asked him a question, he answered.

Hero - You had a team, no one cared and they're now in Washington and their best players are on other teams.

Miz - You have a great team, until the pressure starts and then the choke.

RP - Wait... Indy? Who'se the AAA or AA team around there?

to all 3 of you.

I understand what Hero is getting at, the thing is, people ask him, he's not going to them, that's where the difference is.

**The Miz** · 08-28-2005, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonErich Lives

Miz - You have a great team, until the pressure starts and then the choke.

Who is my team VEL?

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-28-2005, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

But he looked fantabulous against perennial MVP candidates Angel Berroa and Mark Teahen

He probably won't be back to 100% this year, you never know though. Maybe by playoff time.

Whatever though, atleast the Sox have a pretty good chance of making the playoffs suckaaas

**The Miz** · 08-28-2005, 07:39 PM

I would not be surprised at all if Schilling ended up hurting them more than helping them. He keeps saying he can pitch and well get better, but what if when the postseason starts he is still this ineffective? I doubt his problems stem from rustiness, I've seen some of his starts and he is not driving at all off his ankle. I hope this doesn't happen, not because I like the Red Sox but because I don't want to here his bitching and excuses all winter

With or without him, the Red Sox have arguably the worst pitching of any AL contender

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-28-2005, 07:52 PM

How have you seen some of his starts though? He has only started that one game since like the start of the season. He shouldn't have even pitched at all at the start of the season. Personally I think they should have just left him in the bullpen or not used him at all and wait til he was back to 100%. That's not my decision though. I also said they should have benched Damon and Bellhorn in last years ALCS so maybe they know something I don't. He pitched fine in the 1st inning then started to break down so I think that shows the stamina is not there in his ankle at all.

The starting pitching hasn't been great but it hasn't been AWFUL either though, Wells pitched real nice today but Arroyo just flat out blew it yesterday so who knows? The Red Sox have the best offense in the majors so it will be intresting. Manny and Ortiz have a combined 230 RBIs

**The Miz** · 08-28-2005, 08:18 PM

I was talking more about the bullpen but there starting is pretty weak. If they go all the way they're going to be winning alot of games 12-9. I don't think they have enough pitching and defense to do it this year, yeah they have a killer lineup but look what it has done for the Yanks the last 4 years.

**VonErich Lives** · 08-28-2005, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

Who is my team VEL?

Always assumed it was the Mariners, aren't you a seattle fan? Mariners and Seahwaks?

**The Miz** · 08-28-2005, 08:36 PM

When did the Mariners choke?

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-28-2005, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

I was talking more about the bullpen but there starting is pretty weak. If they go all the way they're going to be winning alot of games 12-9. I don't think they have enough pitching and defense to do it this year, yeah they have a killer lineup but look what it has done for the Yanks the last 4 years.

The Yankees line up brought them to the World Series and had them one game away from it.

**VonErich Lives** · 08-28-2005, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

I would not be surprised at all if Schilling ended up hurting them more than helping them. He keeps saying he can pitch and well get better, but what if when the postseason starts he is still this ineffective? I doubt his problems stem from rustiness, I've seen some of his starts and he is not driving at all off his ankle. I hope this doesn't happen, not because I like the Red Sox but because I don't want to here his bitching and excuses all winter

With or without him, the Red Sox have arguably the worst pitching of any AL contender

I have the same concern, like most good pitchers they're so damn stubborn and want to help the team, they don't tell the coach when they can't go, and where he's "Francona boy", I dunno if Tito would give him the hook when he should.

He hasn't always had his fastball and his placement has been on/off.

The rest of the staff has been shakey. Wakefield will be good, and Wells has been on lately and I'm fairly comfortable with him in a big game. Clement has looked good, but I have no clue how he'll be with a big game on the line.

So, I'm confident in two of the starters. Only really takes 3 come playoff time.

The pen, Hopefully we get last years Foulke back, if not Timlin is fine, unless he's brought in with runners on base, he gets killed with runners on base.

I honestly wouldn't be suprised to see Pappelbon in the rotation come playoffs.

Defense isn't as good as last year and we've down a few bats (Kevin Millar), but Olerud still seems to be able to hit, the question is will the finally bench Millar.

So yeah, not as good as last year, but still good and a contender. If schilling turns it on, they'll be in much better shape.

That all being said, the White Sox have great pitching and thats what wins. But do they have enough bats so they don't loose 2-1?

**VonErich Lives** · 08-28-2005, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

When did the Mariners choke?

Didn't they have like the best regular season record and then get killed in the playoffs?

I seem to remember every time they hit the playoffs the team went to crap.

(and you didn't even think I knew who your "team" was)

**The Miz** · 08-28-2005, 09:05 PM

Yeah they had the best regular season record, they were not the best team. 116 wins was a result of no injuries and having 9 guys who gave it their all 162 out of 162 times. It did not translate to postseason success and I didn't expect it too. And they did not get "killed"; they got blown out one game, blew the Yankees out one game, and the other 3 losses were by 1 or 2 runs, each of them was close from the 1st to the 9th. The Yankees were a better team that year and anyone with half a brain could see that. Regular season records are overrated, does anybody really think Chicago is going to win the World Series? If they lose in the ALCS, will it be achoke?

RP · 08-28-2005, 09:32 PM

[QUOTE=VonErich Lives]

RP - Wait... Indy? Who'se the AAA or AA team around there?

QUOTE]

Indianapolis Indians.

**YOUR Hero** · 08-28-2005, 10:42 PM

Actually Miz, I've stated not too long ago that Chacin has lost his place as the ROY, IMO because he hasn't won in 4-5-6 starts now. When you and I first talked about ROYs, Chacin was a front runner with an 11-4 record. Times have changed, I'm not blind about these things.

**OssMan** · 08-28-2005, 11:17 PM

lol was anyone listening to what Jon Miller and Joe Morgan just said? It was like this:

Jon Miller: Sportscenter 50 States in 50 Days continues tonight from Louisiana, at the duck festival
Joe Morgan: Louisiana
...
(long pause)
Jon Miller: It is supposed to be cooling down over there (or something, dunno)

It was so funny. Joe Morgan rule but sometimes he is so hilarious like that.

**BCWWF** · 08-28-2005, 11:18 PM

I still think Boston is the best team in the AL

**RoXer** · 08-29-2005, 12:56 AM

LOL at Shawn Green

Also...

**RoXer** · 08-29-2005, 12:56 AM

0.5 motherfuckers. ZEROPOINTFIVE

**BCWWF** · 08-29-2005, 01:48 AM

5.5, looks like Twins are done again. Hopefully Johan can muster it up and win the Cy though, just to take something from the Sox.

**Loose Cannon** · 08-29-2005, 01:56 PM

gonna be an exciting September. Tough call for the 4 spots in the AL. Well the Chi Sox definately.

**The Miz** · 08-29-2005, 04:03 PM

A's signed Mark Bellhorn.

I guess he could play third and let Chavez DH because his shoulder hurts but I dunno, he kinda sucks major penis.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-29-2005, 04:30 PM

Nice his K count is no longer n/a

**VonErich Lives** · 08-29-2005, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

A's signed Mark Bellhorn.

I guess he could play third and let Chavez DH because his shoulder hurts but I dunno, he kinda sucks major penis.

Why can I already see him taking a sox pitcher deep to win a game in the playoffs...

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-29-2005, 05:17 PM

I used to think stuff like that until last year. I really thought Tony Clark was going to take Keith Foulke deep to win the game and end the playoff run for the Sox.

**The Miz** · 08-29-2005, 07:12 PM

K nevermind, Bellhorn is now with the Yanks.

**Loose Cannon** · 08-29-2005, 07:14 PM

LOL, now it's definately happening.

Bottom 9th Game 7

**VonErich Lives** · 08-29-2005, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

K nevermind, Bellhorn is now with the Yanks.

Just wondering where you heard this, couldn't find anything on ESPN, MLB or the NYY site.

**The Miz** · 08-29-2005, 08:08 PM

Ken Rosenthal, TSN.ca. Too lazy to find link

**DaveWadding** · 08-29-2005, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

LOL, Roxer and Wadding or any other Dbacks fan should appreciate this. Check out 2005 home runs and Shawn Green Challenge. Classic

http://www.shawngreenstinks.com/

I still stand by my dislike of every move the D'Backs made this year. Green? Not that great. Ortiz? That much money for a subpar pitcher with high win totals Glaus? 4 years 45 mil for a HUGE injury risk (who hasn't gotten injutred to this point, surprisingly) and they are still close in a SHITTY NL West.

**Lotus** · 08-30-2005, 12:14 AM

I pray for every team in the NL West to lose just so I can see a team that has a piece of shit record make the playoffs. Though it would be nice to see the Giants climb up, though I'm not a huge fan of them.

**Loose Cannon** · 08-30-2005, 12:25 AM

I feel like Giambi just gave the middle finger right to Miz

**BCWWF** · 08-30-2005, 12:33 AM

I feel like he had it in his ass earlier, so it had shit all over it, under the nail and stuff.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-30-2005, 12:49 AM

LOL The Yanks got Bellhorn? Embree, Bellhorn - Yankees picking up Red Sox rejects.

**OssMan** · 08-30-2005, 06:06 PM

Went to the Red Sox game last night, got infield seats behind the dugout for free because my dad has sweet hook ups. Ridiculous game but had to wait for 1 1/2 hours in Rain Delay.

What is the deal with Lugo? Was he the first one to be found out for steroids, everyone was on him all night. He looked like he wanted to kill someone

08-28-2005, 02:03 PM	#961
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,809	6/10 verse Zack Greinke. Yeah, Shawn had a field day against this clown that was throwing BP as his pitching line of 6/10/2005 would indicate. ROFL

08-28-2005, 03:05 PM	#962
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	6/30 verse Noah Lowery. In one of the most memorable pinch hit home runs of the baseball season, Shawn Green came off the bench to launch a solo shot off of Noah Lowery in the 5th inning to ruin Lowery's shut out and cut the Dback deficit to 9-1.

08-28-2005, 04:51 PM	#963
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	ROFLLL

08-28-2005, 06:44 PM	#964
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	I am not defending Schilling to the grave here BCWWF haha - All I said was I don't think he is done, and I don't see the big deal about him calling Palmerio a scumbag. All he did was go on WEEI, a radio station in Boston, and voice his opinion on Palmerio. I don't think he was really intrested who cared what he thought, the radio host asked him a question and he answered it. Now I can see where in other cases where Schilling has too much, or been too vocal or whatever. Not in this case though.

08-28-2005, 06:49 PM	#965
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,988	I think Schilling should probably worry about his pitching a little more and worry about Palmerieo a little less.

08-28-2005, 07:28 PM	#966
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	But he looked fantabulous against perennial MVP candidates Angel Berroa and Mark Teahen

08-28-2005, 07:39 PM	#970
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	I would not be surprised at all if Schilling ended up hurting them more than helping them. He keeps saying he can pitch and well get better, but what if when the postseason starts he is still this ineffective? I doubt his problems stem from rustiness, I've seen some of his starts and he is not driving at all off his ankle. I hope this doesn't happen, not because I like the Red Sox but because I don't want to here his bitching and excuses all winter With or without him, the Red Sox have arguably the worst pitching of any AL contender

08-28-2005, 07:52 PM	#971
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	How have you seen some of his starts though? He has only started that one game since like the start of the season. He shouldn't have even pitched at all at the start of the season. Personally I think they should have just left him in the bullpen or not used him at all and wait til he was back to 100%. That's not my decision though. I also said they should have benched Damon and Bellhorn in last years ALCS so maybe they know something I don't. He pitched fine in the 1st inning then started to break down so I think that shows the stamina is not there in his ankle at all. The starting pitching hasn't been great but it hasn't been AWFUL either though, Wells pitched real nice today but Arroyo just flat out blew it yesterday so who knows? The Red Sox have the best offense in the majors so it will be intresting. Manny and Ortiz have a combined 230 RBIs

08-28-2005, 08:18 PM	#972
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	I was talking more about the bullpen but there starting is pretty weak. If they go all the way they're going to be winning alot of games 12-9. I don't think they have enough pitching and defense to do it this year, yeah they have a killer lineup but look what it has done for the Yanks the last 4 years.

08-28-2005, 08:36 PM	#974
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	When did the Mariners choke?

08-28-2005, 09:05 PM	#978
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Yeah they had the best regular season record, they were not the best team. 116 wins was a result of no injuries and having 9 guys who gave it their all 162 out of 162 times. It did not translate to postseason success and I didn't expect it too. And they did not get "killed"; they got blown out one game, blew the Yankees out one game, and the other 3 losses were by 1 or 2 runs, each of them was close from the 1st to the 9th. The Yankees were a better team that year and anyone with half a brain could see that. Regular season records are overrated, does anybody really think Chicago is going to win the World Series? If they lose in the ALCS, will it be achoke?

08-28-2005, 09:32 PM	#979
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,988	[QUOTE=VonErich Lives] RP - Wait... Indy? Who'se the AAA or AA team around there? QUOTE] Indianapolis Indians.

08-28-2005, 10:42 PM	#980
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	Actually Miz, I've stated not too long ago that Chacin has lost his place as the ROY, IMO because he hasn't won in 4-5-6 starts now. When you and I first talked about ROYs, Chacin was a front runner with an 11-4 record. Times have changed, I'm not blind about these things.

08-28-2005, 11:17 PM	#981
OssMan The Classic Dylan Staples Posts: 51,137	lol was anyone listening to what Jon Miller and Joe Morgan just said? It was like this: Jon Miller: Sportscenter 50 States in 50 Days continues tonight from Louisiana, at the duck festival Joe Morgan: Louisiana ... (long pause) Jon Miller: It is supposed to be cooling down over there (or something, dunno) It was so funny. Joe Morgan rule but sometimes he is so hilarious like that.

08-28-2005, 11:18 PM	#982
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I still think Boston is the best team in the AL

08-29-2005, 12:56 AM	#983
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	LOL at Shawn Green Also...

08-29-2005, 12:56 AM	#984
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	0.5 motherfuckers. ZEROPOINTFIVE

08-29-2005, 01:48 AM	#985
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	5.5, looks like Twins are done again. Hopefully Johan can muster it up and win the Cy though, just to take something from the Sox.

08-29-2005, 01:56 PM	#986
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,809	gonna be an exciting September. Tough call for the 4 spots in the AL. Well the Chi Sox definately.

08-29-2005, 04:03 PM	#987
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	A's signed Mark Bellhorn. I guess he could play third and let Chavez DH because his shoulder hurts but I dunno, he kinda sucks major penis.

08-29-2005, 04:30 PM	#988
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Nice his K count is no longer n/a

08-29-2005, 05:17 PM	#990
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	I used to think stuff like that until last year. I really thought Tony Clark was going to take Keith Foulke deep to win the game and end the playoff run for the Sox.

08-29-2005, 07:12 PM	#991
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	K nevermind, Bellhorn is now with the Yanks.

08-29-2005, 07:14 PM	#992
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,809	LOL, now it's definately happening. Bottom 9th Game 7

08-29-2005, 08:08 PM	#994
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Ken Rosenthal, TSN.ca. Too lazy to find link

08-30-2005, 12:14 AM	#996
Lotus Go Choke on a Chode Posts: 4,179	I pray for every team in the NL West to lose just so I can see a team that has a piece of shit record make the playoffs. Though it would be nice to see the Giants climb up, though I'm not a huge fan of them.

08-30-2005, 12:25 AM	#997
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,809	I feel like Giambi just gave the middle finger right to Miz

08-30-2005, 12:33 AM	#998
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I feel like he had it in his ass earlier, so it had shit all over it, under the nail and stuff.

08-30-2005, 12:49 AM	#999
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	LOL The Yanks got Bellhorn? Embree, Bellhorn - Yankees picking up Red Sox rejects.

08-30-2005, 06:06 PM	#1000
OssMan The Classic Dylan Staples Posts: 51,137	Went to the Red Sox game last night, got infield seats behind the dugout for free because my dad has sweet hook ups. Ridiculous game but had to wait for 1 1/2 hours in Rain Delay. What is the deal with Lugo? Was he the first one to be found out for steroids, everyone was on him all night. He looked like he wanted to kill someone