A Song Of Fire And Ice (Game of Thrones BOOK thread)

**Requiem** · 07-18-2011, 07:08 PM

Use this thread to discuss everything related to the book series. The other thread can be the TV show thread.

Put spoilers as follows -

'Book #'

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**Brigstocke** · 07-19-2011, 02:19 PM

Remember when Tyrion fucked his Dad in book 3?

**Buzzkill** · 10-20-2011, 04:24 PM

Half way thru book 2...

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**VSG** · 10-21-2011, 12:32 AM

Do you think it is worth I wait for this: http://www.amazon.com/George-Hardcov...sr_1_3?s=books

or buy each book in hardcover separately?

**Requiem** · 10-21-2011, 01:01 AM

Damn, nice. Gonna have to get that. Would buy the 5th in hardback right now while it is available, and then get those. Main problem is that stores often don't carry the hardbacks for some books for long. Only one available in hardback at my Barnes and Noble is the 5th one.

**Buzzkill** · 10-21-2011, 06:50 PM

God the Daenarys chapters are fucking boring

**Requiem** · 10-21-2011, 11:40 PM

In which book? She only had a couple chapters in Book 2 that I remember. Book 3 was incredible. Loved Daenarys.

**Buzzkill** · 10-21-2011, 11:41 PM

Yeah only thru book 2 still. Don't know who this Xari Xaros Xanthi fuck is and I don't care

**Buzzkill** · 10-22-2011, 02:14 PM

Loving this book, but damn he could have used a stricter editor. So many little side actions that don't advance the plot or the characters at all.

**Requiem** · 10-22-2011, 02:15 PM

Like? Kind of curious, as I never felt that way. Not saying there aren't any, but at the same time, those could be points that come into play later.

**Buzzkill** · 10-22-2011, 02:19 PM

Don't get me wrong, there's a ton that's obviously going to become relevant in the future. Most of it is with Arya I suppose. Just a ton of pages that could be cut out entirely without any negative impact. "On the fifth day, she and Hot Pie started wrestling around in the mud. Then they came across a village, and thought they came across some wolves. For the next few days, blah blah".

Not an actual quote, but just saying. I guess it helps establish the "reality" of the world, but it doesn't make for the tightest story telling.

And obviously a very minor complaint in the realm of such an awesome story

**Requiem** · 10-22-2011, 02:22 PM

I get what you're saying. But yeah I personally just really liked hearing about the world from their perspectives. I think a lot of those little details are important in a book. He spent more time describing actions and things they found, than unimportant details about the way things look ala Tolkien (ugh). Although I will say, he describes food more than is needed. Don't know what it is about food, but he does tend to go on and on about it sometimes. Guess it's because he's a fat guy.

**Buzzkill** · 10-22-2011, 02:29 PM

Yeah that's definitely true. Don't need to know every ingredient stuffed in that hen.

In the end I like all the characters so much that even hearing about Arya doing something totally inconsequential is still interesting.

**Buzzkill** · 10-24-2011, 10:53 PM

Holy shit..

Late Book 2 spoiler...

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**Buzzkill** · 10-25-2011, 02:27 AM

NVM

**Shaved Monkey** · 10-25-2011, 11:34 AM

Just finished book 4 and I dunno what to think. It was a good addition to the story but I was hugely disappointed because I didn't get any of the things I wanted out of the book.

Need to go pick up book 5 but I picked up the first 4 in paperback and 5 is only out in hardcover and I hate not having uniformity in my books.

**Requiem** · 10-25-2011, 12:25 PM

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Holy shit..

Late Book 2 spoiler...

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**Requiem** · 10-25-2011, 12:33 PM

Book 5 is fantastic so far.

Book 4 spoiler

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Jaime spoiler

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**Buzzkill** · 10-26-2011, 08:19 PM

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very late book 2 spoiler..

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**VSG** · 10-26-2011, 09:04 PM

Damn you all, I am still on Book 1. So glad I went ahead with hardcover though, totally worth it.

**Shaved Monkey** · 10-28-2011, 11:58 AM

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Book 5 is fantastic so far.

Book 4 spoiler

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Jaime spoiler

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**Requiem** · 10-28-2011, 01:30 PM

First spoiler response

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**Buzzkill** · 10-29-2011, 10:06 PM

Finished book 2, then read Hunger Games in one sitting. Probably the direct opposite in terms of story telling. Pretty entertaining tho.

Getting geared up for book 3

**Buzzkill** · 11-10-2011, 03:23 AM

wow finally a good dany chapter

300 pages into SOS

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**Shaved Monkey** · 11-10-2011, 01:20 PM

Anybody finish Dance With Dragons yet?

**Requiem** · 11-10-2011, 01:40 PM

Almost.

Also Shaved Monkey, in response to previous spoiler.

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**SlickyTrickyDamon** · 06-12-2013, 06:27 PM

Use this one to discuss the book

**El Fangel** · 06-14-2013, 11:49 AM

Ice and Fire nitwit

**Lock Jaw** · 06-14-2013, 02:43 PM

I have officially downloaded an e-book copy of Dance With Dragons. At first I was like "Man, reading on my computer screen sucks", but now I can't stop reading it.

**El Fangel** · 06-15-2013, 08:43 PM

Fix the title asshole.

07-18-2011, 07:08 PM	#1
Requiem Posts: 19,294	A Song Of Fire And Ice (Game of Thrones BOOK thread) Use this thread to discuss everything related to the book series. The other thread can be the TV show thread. Put spoilers as follows - 'Book #' SPOILER: show Put info after the book number, that way people will know what book you are talking about and if they want to click the spoiler or not.

10-20-2011, 04:24 PM	#3
Buzzkill Jamiroquai Bodega Posts: 18,627	Half way thru book 2... SPOILER: show Goodbye Renly...

10-24-2011, 10:53 PM	#14
Buzzkill Jamiroquai Bodega Posts: 18,627	Holy shit.. Late Book 2 spoiler... SPOILER: show Goodbye Bran and Rickon...? GRRM is fucking brutal. No mercy for the reader...Also, sucks to be Catelyn Stark right now

10-25-2011, 12:33 PM	#18
Requiem Posts: 19,294	Book 5 is fantastic so far. Book 4 spoiler SPOILER: show Cersei got what she fucking deserved. Jaime burning the letter she sent him was just one final 'fuck you'. Can't wait to see how she tries to get out of it (and hopefully fails). Will be so happy if she gets what is coming to her. She deserves to get flayed and publicly humiliated, tbh. Jaime spoiler SPOILER: show Also. Just gonna say that I really like Jaime, even though he was a sister fucker. His character is just so good. Like, you hate him at first for being a Lannister, and there's this really negative connotation about being a Kingslayer. But then you get to find out why he did it, and he goes through a gradual transformation into this really likable person. He is really one of the most honorable characters in the books if you cast aside the incest part. Really takes his role on the Kingsguard really seriously when it comes down to it. He realizes that humanity is as much a part of honor as anything. Killing the mad king was dishonorable on the surface, but when you've witnessed such atrocities as he did, it makes more sense to deal with it instead of standing idly by for some false sense of honor. There's no honor in protecting someone so cruel and insane. Losing his hand really made him a lot more humble, and going back after Brienne was just one of those things that made me really like him. Then, giving her the sword 'Oathkeeper' and sending her out to find Sansa for good reasons instead of evil. Just think he is a really great character. His story was fleshed out really nicely, and he isn't as bad as you think he is when the book/show first started.

10-28-2011, 01:30 PM	#22
Requiem Posts: 19,294	First spoiler response SPOILER: show I don't think Cersei has any sort of power where she is now, and couldn't do anything such as promote anyone to the kingsguard. I think this is the beginning of the younger queen taking everything from her. Or, it's a reference to Daeneryis but I dunno. If it isn't Dany, then I see it being the current other queen who will turn her own son against her. The King will end up saving her, and Cersei is going to get the short end of the stick. Or Varys is going to turn up again. I couldn't see a reanimated Mountain ever being a part of the Kingsguard. The second Jaime heard about it, he would flip shit.

07-19-2011, 02:19 PM	#2
Brigstocke Lord of The Vale Posts: 4,138	Remember when Tyrion fucked his Dad in book 3?

10-21-2011, 12:32 AM	#4
VSG Hazardous to Your Health Posts: 21,730	Do you think it is worth I wait for this: http://www.amazon.com/George-Hardcov...sr_1_3?s=books or buy each book in hardcover separately?

10-21-2011, 01:01 AM	#5
Requiem Posts: 19,294	Damn, nice. Gonna have to get that. Would buy the 5th in hardback right now while it is available, and then get those. Main problem is that stores often don't carry the hardbacks for some books for long. Only one available in hardback at my Barnes and Noble is the 5th one.

10-21-2011, 06:50 PM	#6
Buzzkill Jamiroquai Bodega Posts: 18,627	God the Daenarys chapters are fucking boring

10-21-2011, 11:40 PM	#7
Requiem Posts: 19,294	In which book? She only had a couple chapters in Book 2 that I remember. Book 3 was incredible. Loved Daenarys.

10-21-2011, 11:41 PM	#8
Buzzkill Jamiroquai Bodega Posts: 18,627	Yeah only thru book 2 still. Don't know who this Xari Xaros Xanthi fuck is and I don't care

10-22-2011, 02:14 PM	#9
Buzzkill Jamiroquai Bodega Posts: 18,627	Loving this book, but damn he could have used a stricter editor. So many little side actions that don't advance the plot or the characters at all.

10-22-2011, 02:15 PM	#10
Requiem Posts: 19,294	Like? Kind of curious, as I never felt that way. Not saying there aren't any, but at the same time, those could be points that come into play later.

10-22-2011, 02:19 PM	#11
Buzzkill Jamiroquai Bodega Posts: 18,627	Don't get me wrong, there's a ton that's obviously going to become relevant in the future. Most of it is with Arya I suppose. Just a ton of pages that could be cut out entirely without any negative impact. "On the fifth day, she and Hot Pie started wrestling around in the mud. Then they came across a village, and thought they came across some wolves. For the next few days, blah blah". Not an actual quote, but just saying. I guess it helps establish the "reality" of the world, but it doesn't make for the tightest story telling. And obviously a very minor complaint in the realm of such an awesome story

10-22-2011, 02:22 PM	#12
Requiem Posts: 19,294	I get what you're saying. But yeah I personally just really liked hearing about the world from their perspectives. I think a lot of those little details are important in a book. He spent more time describing actions and things they found, than unimportant details about the way things look ala Tolkien (ugh). Although I will say, he describes food more than is needed. Don't know what it is about food, but he does tend to go on and on about it sometimes. Guess it's because he's a fat guy.

10-22-2011, 02:29 PM	#13
Buzzkill Jamiroquai Bodega Posts: 18,627	Yeah that's definitely true. Don't need to know every ingredient stuffed in that hen. In the end I like all the characters so much that even hearing about Arya doing something totally inconsequential is still interesting.

10-25-2011, 02:27 AM	#15
Buzzkill Jamiroquai Bodega Posts: 18,627	NVM

10-25-2011, 11:34 AM	#16
Shaved Monkey Lousy Smarch weather Posts: 2,795	Just finished book 4 and I dunno what to think. It was a good addition to the story but I was hugely disappointed because I didn't get any of the things I wanted out of the book. Need to go pick up book 5 but I picked up the first 4 in paperback and 5 is only out in hardcover and I hate not having uniformity in my books.

10-26-2011, 09:04 PM	#20
VSG Hazardous to Your Health Posts: 21,730	Damn you all, I am still on Book 1. So glad I went ahead with hardcover though, totally worth it.

10-29-2011, 10:06 PM	#23
Buzzkill Jamiroquai Bodega Posts: 18,627	Finished book 2, then read Hunger Games in one sitting. Probably the direct opposite in terms of story telling. Pretty entertaining tho. Getting geared up for book 3

11-10-2011, 03:23 AM	#24
Buzzkill Jamiroquai Bodega Posts: 18,627	wow finally a good dany chapter 300 pages into SOS SPOILER: show Glad to see Drogon finally roast a motherfucker

11-10-2011, 01:20 PM	#25
Shaved Monkey Lousy Smarch weather Posts: 2,795	Anybody finish Dance With Dragons yet?

11-10-2011, 01:40 PM	#26
Requiem Posts: 19,294	Almost. Also Shaved Monkey, in response to previous spoiler. SPOILER: show Damn, just hinted at The Mountain being her Kingsguard person. Would have never thought it would happen but she is conniving and trying to find any way to save her ass. I don't see it going like she plans though.

06-12-2013, 06:27 PM	#27
SlickyTrickyDamon Quark is Less Impressed. Posts: 38,371	Use this one to discuss the book

06-14-2013, 11:49 AM	#28
El Fangel ELF ANGEL Posts: 39,476	Ice and Fire nitwit

06-14-2013, 02:43 PM	#29
Lock Jaw Loque Ja Posts: 87,868	I have officially downloaded an e-book copy of Dance With Dragons. At first I was like "Man, reading on my computer screen sucks", but now I can't stop reading it.

06-15-2013, 08:43 PM	#30
El Fangel ELF ANGEL Posts: 39,476	Fix the title asshole.