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Old 04-06-2023, 08:15 AM   #13561
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Calling it now: Omega vs Ospreay in London.
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Old 04-06-2023, 09:13 AM   #13562
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That line helped bury Saraya.
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It really did, didn't it? I mean she went from everyone being hyped at her return to everyone despising her pretty damn fast.
I mean that was one line from a Top 10 Worst Promo.

“I was the revolution here, I’m gonna be the revolution because I am the revolution”.

“Your name rhymes with shit”.

Then she went and did a terrible job on commentary if I recall. Just bad.
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Old 04-06-2023, 09:21 AM   #13563
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Saraya is terrible in general. Hated the signing from the jump, and it won't be long before she does something toxic or tries to get her edgelord bf on TV.
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Old 04-06-2023, 09:31 AM   #13564
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lol Ronnie Radke is such a douche canoe. You know he's going to be on at some point though.
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Old 04-06-2023, 09:32 AM   #13565
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The Outcasts are a terrible gimmick in general - Saraya's awful and neither Toni nor Ruby are people I actually want to boo. Plus that gimmick has just enveloped nearly the entire women's division and got everyone running in circles on Dynamite. Meanwhile Jade gets shunted to Rampage and they just keep having her squash people ad infinitum because they wanted Statlander to take the title off of her and Tony can't ever give up on his plans even if injury means people go into a holding pattern for a year.

I don't think the BCC are the same as the Outcasts. Especially because people actually care about the BCC guys. Decent chance the Elite/BCC Anarchy in the Arena, Stadium Stampede, Blood and Guts, Exploding Barbed Wire Deathmatch Tack Match will headline the PPV.
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Old 04-06-2023, 09:34 AM   #13566
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Saraya had to turn heel because she was instantly dislikable

Bryan turned heel because shithead ROH heel Danielson is GOAT tier and he's outright said that's his favorite role to play, so I'm all for it.

Bryan's a good enough heel that he's gonna manage to get Mox booed by association.
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Old 04-06-2023, 10:38 AM   #13567
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Old 04-06-2023, 11:43 AM   #13568
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The Outcasts are a terrible gimmick in general - Saraya's awful and neither Toni nor Ruby are people I actually want to boo. Plus that gimmick has just enveloped nearly the entire women's division and got everyone running in circles on Dynamite. Meanwhile Jade gets shunted to Rampage and they just keep having her squash people ad infinitum because they wanted Statlander to take the title off of her and Tony can't ever give up on his plans even if injury means people go into a holding pattern for a year.

I don't think the BCC are the same as the Outcasts. Especially because people actually care about the BCC guys. Decent chance the Elite/BCC Anarchy in the Arena, Stadium Stampede, Blood and Guts, Exploding Barbed Wire Deathmatch Tack Match will headline the PPV.
Idk why they don’t just build up Willow to get her the tbs title. She’s got everything they should want in a younger talent; good in the ring, tons of charisma, she’s over, and has great music. Just let her dethrone Jade.
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Old 04-06-2023, 11:51 AM   #13569
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TK 100% has no idea what to with jade after she loses that streak/title so he'll just keep stalling until she's 100-0 and all viable options have become ineffective.
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Old 04-06-2023, 12:03 PM   #13570
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She should be in the Originals vs Outcasts angle, but for some reason, she isn't...
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Old 04-06-2023, 12:12 PM   #13571
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TK 100% has no idea what to with jade after she loses that streak/title so he'll just keep stalling until she's 100-0 and all viable options have become ineffective.
To be fair, TK 100% has no idea what to do with anybody. 4 years in and almost everybody is exactly what they have been since day 1.

When he does change something up, it is random and not followed up on at all. Remember Preston Vance and his dastardly heel turn? I dont even remember how long ago that was, because there has been nothing afterwards. What was the point?
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Old 04-06-2023, 12:13 PM   #13572
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Old 04-06-2023, 12:13 PM   #13573
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TK 100% has no idea what to with jade after she loses that streak/title so he'll just keep stalling until she's 100-0 and all viable options have become ineffective.
To a lesser extent it's the same thing with Hook. He's afraid nobody will care about him once he takes a loss. But how do you expect the guy to improve if he's mostly wrestling the same match every time?

More broadly I think a lot of promoters now are aware that "the smarks" are the only people who watch anymore and it sometimes causes them to ignore the basics. Don't want to put the title on the hot babyface the fans have clamored for because the smarks always eventually turn on the faces, so guess the chase just needs to go forever.
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Old 04-06-2023, 12:16 PM   #13574
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Look guys, I don’t think 4 years is too long for TK to be getting his pieces into place. He’s playing 5D chess while Vince is playing checkers getting is sack licked by an intern.
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Old 04-06-2023, 12:16 PM   #13575
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Just be patient and TK will deliver a wrestling renaissance.
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Old 04-06-2023, 12:17 PM   #13576
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Old 04-06-2023, 12:46 PM   #13577
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It’s interesting that the only talent that seems happy after 6 months of the jump to AEW are the inmates running the asylum (Ambrose/Jericho). There have been some outrageously quick backpedaling.

It’s almost like the lack of structure and organization is a bad thing.
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Old 04-06-2023, 05:17 PM   #13581
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She should be in the Originals vs Outcasts angle, but for some reason, she isn't...
Ideal situation would be getting the title on Saraya, and building Jade up to destroy her in eventual rise to the top of the division. The story is right there. But for some reason Tony refuses to pivot when a wrench gets thrown into his plans.
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Old 04-06-2023, 10:50 PM   #13582
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Nah that doesn't work for me. Jade is Goldbergette. If she isn't built up to the top of the division by now then no one is. She's undefeated for like 2 years. Jobbing to Saraya of all people destroys that.

You want her in the main event then just stick her there because she's already qualified for it. If you want to get the title off of her, have her give it up before going for the big belt or do the ole multi-person match and have everyone gang up to take her out before someone else eats the pin. Do not under any circumstances put either belt on Saraya. She's terrible.
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Old 04-06-2023, 10:56 PM   #13583
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Just have her give up the secondary title after winning the main one and hold a tournament for it. Can’t stand the “winning a title by beating someone else” thing.
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They could always merge the belts and give TK an opportunity to do one of his favorite things ever and unveil a new title as a huge announcement that will change the wrestling landscape for ever on Dynamite next week!!!!
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The AEW Australia Title to cater to the Australian audience since AEW has a TV deal in Australia.
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Old 04-07-2023, 02:37 AM   #13586
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Ideal situation would be getting the title on Saraya, and building Jade up to destroy her in eventual rise to the top of the division. The story is right there. But for some reason Tony refuses to pivot when a wrench gets thrown into his plans.
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Nah that doesn't work for me. Jade is Goldbergette. If she isn't built up to the top of the division by now then no one is. She's undefeated for like 2 years. Jobbing to Saraya of all people destroys that.

You want her in the main event then just stick her there because she's already qualified for it. If you want to get the title off of her, have her give it up before going for the big belt or do the ole multi-person match and have everyone gang up to take her out before someone else eats the pin. Do not under any circumstances put either belt on Saraya. She's terrible.
I think he means put the Women’s World Title on Saraya and have Jade beat her for it.
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Absolutely I do. I’d have Saraya take the belt from Hayter, then build up Jade to be the one to overthrow her.
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Old 04-07-2023, 05:41 AM   #13588
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AEW at Wembley Stadium? I'd absolutely love to see this happen and for the stadium to be absolutely packed! I feel this is somewhat over ambitious for the promotion though.
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I think he means put the Women’s World Title on Saraya and have Jade beat her for it.
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Absolutely I do. I’d have Saraya take the belt from Hayter, then build up Jade to be the one to overthrow her.
While not as bad as the way I read it, it still involves putting a title on Saraya and that's gonna be a nope from me dawg. She's terrible and annoying. She was a turn the channel segment in WWE, she's a turn the channel segment now.
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I never thought she was particularly good in any way but I can see it from a “building a star” standpoint. Have Jade take the title off your biggest star instead of someone she’s already above. Booking 101.
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Pretty much what fan said. They’re clearly prioritizing Saraya. If she’s going to be their top heel, which she is, you may as well use that to help further elevate a young star that is clearly being groomed as the future of the division. It also works because Jade is homegrown and fits as a foil for the outcasts.
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AEW at Wembley Stadium? I'd absolutely love to see this happen and for the stadium to be absolutely packed! I feel this is somewhat over ambitious for the promotion though.
I think they’ll fill it, but they’ll also do an AEW show, so it’ll mean nothing.
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Billie Starkz signs an AEW contract. She's worked a few Darks and was on TV this past Friday. But the full-time contract doesn't officially start until she finishes high school in a couple of months, similar to Nick Wayne's deal.

Wayne himself is scheduled to wrestle Swerve Strickland on Dynamite in July, a day after his 18th birthday.
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Oh and Brian Cage re-signed as well.

Not really sure he had any other choice other than maybe Impact. WWE were never going to touch him since he would've never been able to pass Wellness tests. Guy is so comically roided.
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I guess you’ve got to start somewhere, but talent that young could really use developmental and some life experience first.
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Oh and Brian Cage re-signed as well.
How does this keep happening?
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I thought the whole Speaking Out thing might have shone a more negative light on adults training kids to wrestle. Should maybe be something you start pursuing after your 18th birthday.
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How does this keep happening?
WWE wouldn’t want him, Impact Wrestling can’t pay him, Tony Khan wants to keep all his toys.
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Brian Cage going to Wembley, baby!
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There’s more AEW video game drama. Despite Tony Khan and Kenny Omega saying that the video game is finished, the social media manager for THQ Nordic has come out and said that it’s not finished. He’s had to go into overdrive explaining he’s not calling anyone a liar, there’s no miscommunication, etc. All the while he is saying that opposite of what the AEW side is saying. That sounds like pretty clear miscommunication.
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