MLB 2005 Season Thread - Page 7

**The Miz** · 06-20-2005, 09:55 PM

Red Sox
Angels
White Sox
Twins

The Rangers have no chance, even in that crappy division. Past Rogers & Young their pitching is a joke

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 06-20-2005, 10:40 PM

Veriteks block at the plate the other night was fucking sweet

**BCWWF** · 06-20-2005, 11:01 PM

I too think it's a little early to call Kenny Rogers a Cy Young candidate. He started similar to this last year as well.

Also, I assume the playoffs looks like what Miz had, but it would be so random if it were the four I posted. No Sox, no Yanks, no Angels.

**YOUR Hero** · 06-20-2005, 11:08 PM

One difference between Rogers stats this year and last is his ERA. He does tend to fade in the second half, but you can't assume he will, not with the way he's been pitching this year over the previous years.

**BCWWF** · 06-20-2005, 11:11 PM

I hope Halladay and Pedro win the Cy's, but its still pretty early so anything can happen.

**SammyG** · 06-20-2005, 11:17 PM

God damn Dodgers

**The Miz** · 06-20-2005, 11:22 PM

Hey where is that guy who said the Mets were gonna win the East, does he want me to laugh in his face now or save it for end of the season

**Dragon** · 06-22-2005, 10:40 PM

The Yankees have come back from a 10-2 deficit and have made it 20-11 now.

Pretty ridiculous, so many home runs are being hit right now. I almost feel bad for this pitcher the Devil Rays have in right now, he just gave up 13 runs in the eighth inning.

**The Miz** · 06-22-2005, 11:01 PM

lol Why didn't they pull him

**Loose Cannon** · 06-22-2005, 11:03 PM

experience

**Loose Cannon** · 06-22-2005, 11:03 PM

he sure got an experience

**Innovator** · 06-22-2005, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

lol Why didn't they pull him

He was the last one in the bullpen

**The Miz** · 06-22-2005, 11:20 PM

They shoulda brought in some position player who was on the bench, what's the worst that could happen

**Adder** · 06-23-2005, 10:51 AM

Pinnella wants out of TBay, he won't quit so I think he's working on getting fired.

**toxic rooster** · 06-23-2005, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SammyG

God damn Dodgers

lol the other day I got woke up when dad chucked a spazz over that big innings Kansas City had

**BCWWF** · 06-23-2005, 03:41 PM

Kansas City is somehow real hot since they got the new manager.

Anyway, Pinella should be let out of Tampa Bay. They should either move the team or else move Crawford and Pinella out of there so they can matter on a real team.

**The Miz** · 06-23-2005, 08:42 PM

No comment

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 06-23-2005, 10:44 PM

Nice Yanks lost to the D-Backs. Red Sox won

**The Miz** · 06-23-2005, 10:47 PM

Kenny Rogers just gave up 4 runs on 5 hits in the 1st inning against the Angels

Bye bye Rangers

**MVP** · 06-23-2005, 11:54 PM

Supposedly Eric Gagne won't be back until next year's All-Star game.

**The Miz** · 06-24-2005, 12:00 AM

Another Cy Young caliber pitcher ruined by the Dodgers staff. AWESOME

**SammyG** · 06-24-2005, 02:19 AM

Damnit. Well, im glad the dodgers finally broke their losing streak tonight, but its gonna be tough without Gagne..

**RoXer** · 06-24-2005, 03:17 PM

Kotsay could be dealt. Rumors are to the Yankees or Cubs.

**BCWWF** · 06-24-2005, 04:09 PM

Yeah I've heard the Yankees getting Kotsay rumor

What pissed me off, on talk radio the other day they mentioned something that I never thought of. The Twins probably could have traded Kyle Lohse for Placido Polanco, which would have given us a legit No. 2 hitter with good defense. He is like exactly who we needed. We either need a 2B, SS, or 3B who can hit, because if Morneau is going to be a dumbass we aren't going to come back in the central.

**The Outlaw** · 06-24-2005, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

No comment

lol yeah

**The Miz** · 06-24-2005, 05:26 PM

If the A's deal Kotsay to the Yanks they are pussies. All they are offering is 2 prospects, a guy who's hitting .230 in AA and an 18-year-old pitcher who is tearing up A. These guys could be huge busts, and the A's have enough prospects, they need major leaguers who are ready to play today, not in 2007 or 2008. Not worth trading their best player and one of the best defensive CF's in the last 5 years.

**BCWWF** · 06-24-2005, 07:38 PM

I agree, the other part is that I think Kotsay would be a really good addition for the Yankees, really help them a lot. With that said, I also thought that this years Yankees team would be the best since...maybe 98? Whichever one of those teams was the best.

**BCWWF** · 06-24-2005, 07:41 PM

This leads into another thing. The Oakland Athletics are really pretty big dumbshits when it all comes down to it. The reason they would be trading Kotsay is because he is a free agent after the year (or maybe he has one more year or something, but pretty sure this year). That is the reason that they can never be amazing, they run the same type of program as the Twins but they are too retarded to keep the good players. Why would you just wait until Miguel Tajada and Jason Giambi become free agents to resign them? The Twins made sure to get Torii Hunter and Johan Santana resigned before they became free agents, so they were still in our range. The A's could be the best team in baseball right now if they learned to resign their players before they became free agents.

**The Miz** · 06-24-2005, 11:06 PM

What the hell are you talking about? Tejada did not want an extension. He made it clear from quite some time that 2003 would be his last season in Oakland, regardless of what they offered him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF

Jason Giambi

ROFL

And I'd hardly call the GM retarded, I'd say that the deals for 2 of the big 3 worked out quite nicely in Oakland's favor.

I agree about Kotsay though, he wants 3 years $27 million, I'd give it to him.

**BCWWF** · 06-25-2005, 12:25 AM

Come on. Jason Giambi was one of the best players in baseball when he was in Oakland. Developing great prospects can only get you so far, you have to keep the core guys if you ever want to win. Now the A's are set up to have a great group of prospects come up again, but by the time they get there the veterans will be gone. Starting with Kotsay, then Zito, just judging by history I would have to assume Chavez's time is limited. They just have to do something to keep their guys unless they just want to stay a farm team for the rest of the MLB.

**RoXer** · 06-25-2005, 12:35 AM

Chavez is locked up with a 7 year deal. I believe.

**BCWWF** · 06-25-2005, 12:38 AM

At least they got it right with one guy. But you can't be successful without keeping your guys.

**RoXer** · 06-25-2005, 12:40 AM

Yeah. I have a rant and rave about how they run the organization. But I'm sick of defending them every fuck time they do something like this. If they trade Kotsay, my head will be raw from the scratching.

**BCWWF** · 06-25-2005, 12:59 AM

I just wrote another rant about how the Twins keep good players and let the shit get huge contracts elsewhere, but I erased it so you wouldn't all hate me.

**OssMan** · 06-27-2005, 06:52 PM

went to the nationals game yesterday and gonna go to a Cubs or Sox game next week wooo

**The Miz** · 06-27-2005, 09:19 PM

Watch out for the ground crew's hose

**YOUR Hero** · 06-27-2005, 09:51 PM

Considering the Yankees need a CF, I would expect the A's could garner more than what's being discussed.

**The Miz** · 06-27-2005, 10:04 PM

The Yankees have a shitty farm system. They are offering their best 2 prospects for Kotsay. Duncan is Adam Dunn part 2 and will be in the majors next year with someone, and Hughes is an 18-year old with a history of injuries but dominated A-ball. The Yankees have no prospects to offer past these 2, and there is no one on the MLB team who the A's want because they are all old, slow, and overpaid. The A's are set in the infield for the next 5 years with Chavez, Crosby, Scutaro, and Johnson. They do however need outfielders and Matsui, Sheffield, and Williams are not going anywhere and the A's wouldn't want them anyway.

I don't see the A's shipping Kotsay at the deadline unless it is 100% that the A's cannot resign him. If they trade him, they can forget about being the AL west favorites in 2006. Eric Chavez has proven he cannot lead a team and Bobby Crosby is not Miguel Tejada; yet. Kotsay is "the guy" in Oakland, period.

If the Mariners were smart they would try to ship Randy Winn for pitching (Wang, Stanton, i dunno) because Jeremy Reed > your mother. Winn is not a long term solution but they'll get a hell of a lot more production out of him than Bernie Washup and Tony Womack.

**YOUR Hero** · 06-27-2005, 10:38 PM

Oakland can ask for Wang as well, don't you see.

**The Miz** · 06-27-2005, 10:40 PM

The Yankees have said they are not going to trade their young guys, Wang and Cano. Nobody wants their old guys. Whoops.

06-20-2005, 09:55 PM	#241
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Red Sox Angels White Sox Twins The Rangers have no chance, even in that crappy division. Past Rogers & Young their pitching is a joke

06-20-2005, 10:40 PM	#242
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Veriteks block at the plate the other night was fucking sweet

06-20-2005, 11:01 PM	#243
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I too think it's a little early to call Kenny Rogers a Cy Young candidate. He started similar to this last year as well. Also, I assume the playoffs looks like what Miz had, but it would be so random if it were the four I posted. No Sox, no Yanks, no Angels.

06-20-2005, 11:08 PM	#244
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	One difference between Rogers stats this year and last is his ERA. He does tend to fade in the second half, but you can't assume he will, not with the way he's been pitching this year over the previous years.

06-20-2005, 11:11 PM	#245
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I hope Halladay and Pedro win the Cy's, but its still pretty early so anything can happen.

06-20-2005, 11:17 PM	#246
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,758	God damn Dodgers

06-20-2005, 11:22 PM	#247
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Hey where is that guy who said the Mets were gonna win the East, does he want me to laugh in his face now or save it for end of the season

06-22-2005, 10:40 PM	#248
Dragon REALMENTE Posts: 11,271	The Yankees have come back from a 10-2 deficit and have made it 20-11 now. Pretty ridiculous, so many home runs are being hit right now. I almost feel bad for this pitcher the Devil Rays have in right now, he just gave up 13 runs in the eighth inning.

06-22-2005, 11:01 PM	#249
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	lol Why didn't they pull him

06-22-2005, 11:03 PM	#250
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,809	experience

06-22-2005, 11:03 PM	#251
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,809	he sure got an experience

06-22-2005, 11:20 PM	#253
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	They shoulda brought in some position player who was on the bench, what's the worst that could happen

06-23-2005, 10:51 AM	#254
Adder A.W.O.L. Posts: 5,862	Pinnella wants out of TBay, he won't quit so I think he's working on getting fired.

06-23-2005, 03:41 PM	#256
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Kansas City is somehow real hot since they got the new manager. Anyway, Pinella should be let out of Tampa Bay. They should either move the team or else move Crawford and Pinella out of there so they can matter on a real team.

06-23-2005, 08:42 PM	#257
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	No comment

06-23-2005, 10:44 PM	#258
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Nice Yanks lost to the D-Backs. Red Sox won

06-23-2005, 10:47 PM	#259
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Kenny Rogers just gave up 4 runs on 5 hits in the 1st inning against the Angels Bye bye Rangers

06-23-2005, 11:54 PM	#260
MVP Mas Vagina Porfavor Posts: 11,343	Supposedly Eric Gagne won't be back until next year's All-Star game.

06-24-2005, 12:00 AM	#261
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Another Cy Young caliber pitcher ruined by the Dodgers staff. AWESOME

06-24-2005, 02:19 AM	#262
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,758	Damnit. Well, im glad the dodgers finally broke their losing streak tonight, but its gonna be tough without Gagne..

06-24-2005, 03:17 PM	#263
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	Kotsay could be dealt. Rumors are to the Yankees or Cubs.

06-24-2005, 04:09 PM	#264
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Yeah I've heard the Yankees getting Kotsay rumor What pissed me off, on talk radio the other day they mentioned something that I never thought of. The Twins probably could have traded Kyle Lohse for Placido Polanco, which would have given us a legit No. 2 hitter with good defense. He is like exactly who we needed. We either need a 2B, SS, or 3B who can hit, because if Morneau is going to be a dumbass we aren't going to come back in the central.

06-24-2005, 05:26 PM	#266
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	If the A's deal Kotsay to the Yanks they are pussies. All they are offering is 2 prospects, a guy who's hitting .230 in AA and an 18-year-old pitcher who is tearing up A. These guys could be huge busts, and the A's have enough prospects, they need major leaguers who are ready to play today, not in 2007 or 2008. Not worth trading their best player and one of the best defensive CF's in the last 5 years.

06-24-2005, 07:38 PM	#267
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I agree, the other part is that I think Kotsay would be a really good addition for the Yankees, really help them a lot. With that said, I also thought that this years Yankees team would be the best since...maybe 98? Whichever one of those teams was the best.

06-24-2005, 07:41 PM	#268
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	This leads into another thing. The Oakland Athletics are really pretty big dumbshits when it all comes down to it. The reason they would be trading Kotsay is because he is a free agent after the year (or maybe he has one more year or something, but pretty sure this year). That is the reason that they can never be amazing, they run the same type of program as the Twins but they are too retarded to keep the good players. Why would you just wait until Miguel Tajada and Jason Giambi become free agents to resign them? The Twins made sure to get Torii Hunter and Johan Santana resigned before they became free agents, so they were still in our range. The A's could be the best team in baseball right now if they learned to resign their players before they became free agents.

06-25-2005, 12:25 AM	#270
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Come on. Jason Giambi was one of the best players in baseball when he was in Oakland. Developing great prospects can only get you so far, you have to keep the core guys if you ever want to win. Now the A's are set up to have a great group of prospects come up again, but by the time they get there the veterans will be gone. Starting with Kotsay, then Zito, just judging by history I would have to assume Chavez's time is limited. They just have to do something to keep their guys unless they just want to stay a farm team for the rest of the MLB.

06-25-2005, 12:35 AM	#271
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	Chavez is locked up with a 7 year deal. I believe.

06-25-2005, 12:38 AM	#272
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	At least they got it right with one guy. But you can't be successful without keeping your guys.

06-25-2005, 12:40 AM	#273
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	Yeah. I have a rant and rave about how they run the organization. But I'm sick of defending them every fuck time they do something like this. If they trade Kotsay, my head will be raw from the scratching.

06-25-2005, 12:59 AM	#274
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I just wrote another rant about how the Twins keep good players and let the shit get huge contracts elsewhere, but I erased it so you wouldn't all hate me.