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Old 05-30-2019, 02:25 PM   #41
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im not asking great, just dont give me random turd in gear.

When I watch him i feel like he's going to powder and grab some cheese sticks from the gimmick table
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Old 05-30-2019, 02:26 PM   #42
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You also can't go as hard as Jericho does at 48 like you did when you were 28 and still look decent. Dude loves himself some alcohol.
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Old 05-30-2019, 02:26 PM   #43
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I remember in Jericho's second book he mentioned that his switch to trunks in 2008 was mandated by Vince who made a really gay comment about Jericho having great legs.
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Old 05-30-2019, 03:23 PM   #44
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Corny put MJF over huge.
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Old 05-30-2019, 03:30 PM   #45
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What's the basic rundown of the guys he hates and the guys he likes...
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Old 05-30-2019, 03:31 PM   #46
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Yeah, that was a bit much. I like MJF. He's a great heel and he stood out as a star in that battle royal. I think Cornette literally said he's one of the best in the business though. which seemed like overkill. I'd chalk it up to him putting over an MLW guy but he shits on Jimmy Havoc freely so I don't know.
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Old 05-30-2019, 03:36 PM   #47
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What's the basic rundown of the guys he hates and the guys he likes...
He made a point to say Trent has potential but seems to think the rest of the guys in that tag match were shit. He praised Moxley, too. Said when he saw him in WWE he came off as a guy who didn't care but he came off totally different at the end of the show.

Other than those two and the obvious (Cody, Dustin and Jericho), I'm blanking on who else he seemed to like.
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Old 05-30-2019, 03:38 PM   #48
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He thinks MJF is amazing and the future. I agree. He hates Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks. More Omega though. Sounds personal with all.

Hated the announcer crew with the exception of Ross.
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He actually seemed to like Excalibur as an announcer, too but just hated the mask and name.
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Old 05-30-2019, 03:39 PM   #50
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JR was okay but clearly didn't know half the guys he was watching.

Cornette won't say anything bad about his friend though.
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Old 05-30-2019, 03:45 PM   #51
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He nit picks at everything and some cases he is right on, others its like " dude get a grip ".
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Cornette's always gonna nitpick everything that isn't booked like Smoky Mountain Wrestling.
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To be fair, the same could be said for a lot of the people watching the show.

To counteract the bad thread from earlier this week:

Someone who they want to be hated should beat the fuck out of Excaliber and rip his mask off, repeatedly screaming a name at him like "Why do you call yourself Excaliber, JACK MEHOFF*?!? Call the damned match right, JACK MEHOFF!!" Turns out, that's gonna be his name from here on out and he can do commentary without the mask. And that solves a major presentation issue.

*Jack Mehoff is a generic joke name that I like to use in various situations.
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Old 05-30-2019, 03:47 PM   #54
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He nit picks at everything and some cases he is right on, others its like " dude get a grip ".
part of it is I think he just gets rolling. He knows people love listening to him lose his shit and I think he just enjoys cutting promos on new wrestling.

The wise thing to do, if you're AEW, is listen to what guys like Cornette have to say but know where he's being ridiculous and know where he makes good points.
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I'm about 95% certain Excalibur would sooner quit than remove his mask.

Not worth losing a really good commentary guy over.
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Old 05-30-2019, 03:52 PM   #56
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JR was okay but clearly didn't know half the guys he was watching.

Cornette won't say anything bad about his friend though.
JR added credibility to everything he called. He is 0% a problem.
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I love the "Cornette is stuck in the past" narrative. It's an easy excuse to brush off anything he says. 99% of the shit he complains about has nothing to do with old vs. new. It's sensical vs nonsensical. If shit making sense is considered "outdated" then we're in a really sad fucking time.
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Do people really think he hates Joey Ryan flipping guys with his magical dick or Kenny Omega wrestling a doll or Chuck Taylor blowing people up with fake grenades simply because they're "new school"?
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Well those people are stupid.
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JR added credibility to everything he called. He is 0% a problem.
He's most definitely an asset. I'd just like to see him familiarize himself with the less known talent instead of flying blind.

I think he will once they're on TNT and he'll be calling these guys and gals week in, week out.
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After listening to JR go on rants on his new podcast with Conrad about how much he hates comedy wrestling, I'm kinda glad they kept him away from calling the battle royal. I would have been cringing for him.
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He's most definitely an asset. I'd just like to see him familiarize himself with the less known talent instead of flying blind.

I think he will once they're on TNT and he'll be calling these guys and gals week in, week out.
Familiarize himself how? These workers dont have characters. they do moves. They dont tell stories. They do moves. What is he supposed to be calling? If you ask me given what he's working with he's knocking it out of the park.
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There's a reason the guys who have characters and are telling stories are called better and its not the guy in the booth thats the issue.
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Do people really think he hates Joey Ryan flipping guys with his magical dick or Kenny Omega wrestling a doll or Chuck Taylor blowing people up with fake grenades simply because they're "new school"?

100%yes and he's 100% correct
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There's a reason the guys who have characters and are telling stories are called better and its not the guy in the booth thats the issue.
Yeah, as someone who thinks the 3 main events delivered and Moxley's introduction was great, your mid-card and even prelims are very important. They'd be better served not to focus on indy geek bullshit. I get that there are people who like it, but it comes across as completely the opposite of the 'sports first' approach they were talking about and seems more like a circus. How can JR call a bunch of 180 pounders flipping around and hugging one another like they're Flair and Steamboat after Wrestlewar?

I don't even mind Joey Janela (I don't love him either) - as he adds some grit and I think will be used as a JTTS which I think is an effective role for a guy like him. Loved the visual of him squaring off with Mox on Being the Elite.

It's just a lot of the other stuff does not grab my interest in the slightest.

However, I could be completely wrong. They do seem to have their finger on the pulse and maybe REALLY keying in on this more "nerdy" audience will pay off.
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Old 05-30-2019, 04:45 PM   #67
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lol Stop. He doesn't fucking hate all that shit because it's "new". He hates it because it's stupid and makes wrestling look fucking stupid. Even by wrestling standards. It's stupid now, it would have been stupid 30 years ago and it will be stupid 30 years from now. The idea that it just boils down to "new = bad" is ridiculous.
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Imagine someone trying to show you a video of a football game where a team gets 3 points after a touchdown if the guy who scores is able to spike the ball and then lick the referee's asshole before being touched by a defender.

Then when you say "What the fuck is this shit!?" they're like "Ugh. You just hate it because it's not the football you grew up on. GET WITH THE TIMES, OLD MAN!"
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lol Stop. He doesn't fucking hate all that shit because it's "new". He hates it because it's stupid and makes wrestling look fucking stupid. Even by wrestling standards. It's stupid now, it would have been stupid 30 years ago and it will be stupid 30 years from now. The idea that it just boils down to "new = bad" is ridiculous.
talking to me or Gertner?

Gertner agrees with you and so do I.
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I took Gertner's response as "100% yes this is what people think and 100% yes, he (Cornette) is right (in thinking that)."

As in they think that, he DOES feel that way, and he's right in feeling that way.
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I took Gertner's response as "100% yes this is what people think and 100% yes, he (Cornette) is right (in thinking that)."

As in they think that, he DOES feel that way, and he's right in feeling that way.
He said 'yes' to people incorrectly thinking that but that he's 100% correct about thinking it's shit.
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Imagine someone trying to show you a video of a football game where a team gets 3 points after a touchdown if the guy who scores is able to spike the ball and then lick the referee's asshole before being touched by a defender.
Somebody's been reading my dream journal.
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Well, yeah. That makes sense. I couldn't imagine Gertner didn't agree with Cornette that it was shit. The wording made it sound like he was agreeing with people who think that's his reasoning while also agreeing with his reasoning though.
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I need to turn to ass licking in more of my analogies. It seems to make my point well.
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I’ve never really had a problem with silly comedy stuff. I can even watch something like the omega vs 9 year old match and then one of his serious matches without one affecting my enjoyment of the other. Just how my brain is wired I guess.
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Same. To each their own but I don’t get crotchety any time they don’t take it seriously. I like variety.
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I watched Battle Royal so far. Won't listen to Corny until I see the full show for reference.

After seeing one comment here I'm surprised Cornette actually watched Omega/Jericho at all. Probably was because of Jericho being involved and not the BlowupDoll/Child wrestler.
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Cornette right on the money, as usual.
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Same. To each their own but I don’t get crotchety any time they don’t take it seriously. I like variety.
Yeah I don't like the comedy stuff at all but I don't lose my shit over it either. Kind of understand why cornette does because it's dumb as shit - but comparitively, it's still so much better than pretty much anything WWE lol
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