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Old 03-29-2016, 02:27 PM   #24201
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Old 03-29-2016, 03:13 PM   #24203
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Old 03-29-2016, 03:17 PM   #24204
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According to Dave Meltzer, WWE Expected Eva Marie to get a babyface pop.

It's like, you can never predict the audience, no matter how smart you are. And WWE.. you know, sometimes they can and sometimes they can't, especially now. But this one? This one was a no-brainer. And the idea that they didn't figure it out.. This was one where I was really surprised how they didn't figure this out. This was an easy one. It is the typical WWE, they're trying to go right, but they can't help themselves from going left. They think that she (Eva) is so hot that everyone is going to like her. It didn't work in NXT and it obviously didn't work tonight. People have so much access to photos of hot women, that being a hot woman who can't wrestle, it doesn't mean shit anymore. There was a time when it did with Tammy Sytch and Sable. But times change. If Braun Strowman showed up in the Hogan era, they could have done Wrestlemania with him and match would have sucked, but they would have drawn big money.
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Old 03-29-2016, 03:19 PM   #24205
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Curious why Dave can't point out who specifically thought Eva would get a babyface reaction? The babyface girls acted like she was a heel. So unless they went into business for themselves, maybe creative knew the reaction she would get.
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Old 03-29-2016, 05:39 PM   #24208
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To those talking about a Ravenesque Bray Wyatt twist, YES that would be awesome...

Imagine Dolph Ziggler reveals that he has a ground breaking secret about a WWE superstar on twitter. And like the story going around the net of some "huge slanderous rumor" every can't stop talking about it. After weeks of WWE interviewers prying to get the secret, he comes to the ring to expose Bray Wyatt as a fraud. Video footage is show of the Wyatt family totally out of "character", they aren't these psycho's they're normal guys. They discuss popular sports, famous women, and openly discuss scare tactics to try and get a "better spot" on the card. Bray talks about wanting to fill the spot that The Undertaker is leaving behind. And ends up giving an envelope to the rest of the family, implying payment for their services...

Bray has no choice to but face the music. And all is changed, he drops the gimmick and comes off more like the spoiled Raven character from WCW. Whining about what is fair to him. He even brings his brother into it. He is getting super emotional, almost a meltdown coming on with a feeling of impending violence towards Dolph. Bo comes out, breaking character and tries to console his brother. As Dolph watches Bo and Bray hash it out on the mic, the rest of Wyatt family comes to the ring. Sure they are big and scary but they drop the movie monster gimmick and show concern over Bray. Just as the make it to the apron, Bray snaps and attacks Bo, knocking him out and attacking him with ground and pound. Dolph tackles Bray to stop the attack, the rest of The Wyatt family looks confused but snap into gear and immediately follow Bray and attack Dolph and Bo.

Now Bo is put in a postion to do something, and it's as a baby face. Dolph is the main face in a big storyline. And they can enlist the help of a few others to take on the new version of The Wyatt Family.

Bray has new motivation as a heel that will be much less likely to get a babyface pop.
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Curious why Dave can't point out who specifically thought Eva would get a babyface reaction? The babyface girls acted like she was a heel. So unless they went into business for themselves, maybe creative knew the reaction she would get.
If he used proper nouns you'd believe him? HA! Joke.
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Old 03-29-2016, 05:47 PM   #24210
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If Shawn Michaels had worked for (and been fired by) multiple companies since 2010 then yeah that would be right...
You're going to side with TNA on this one? You know, the promotion that fired Jim Mitchell because if he was getting booed that much, he must be a really evil man?
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Old 03-29-2016, 05:52 PM   #24211
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Yes I am a fan of Lucha Underground, a critically acclaimed TV show, that your hero has referred to as the worst thing to ever happen to the business or words to that affect, in it's infancy which I firmly believe will go on to do better and bigger things if they can score the right kind of deal with regards to how the product is broadcast.

If you're going around telling me that someone is a creative genius without being able to point out any actual sign of genius (did he create the Hell in a Cell or is that just his word cause, you know, people in the wrestling business are notoriously honest? I also could have sworn I remember HBK saying he had seen a cage match with a ceiling and he proposed that idea to Vince)
You're jumping into Cynick territory here. Be careful.

You completely missed the Lucha Underground point. Slow clap. The point is that just because a guy isn't writing for WWE RIGHT NOW (!) doesn't mean he hasn't forgotten more about professional wrestling than you've ever known.

Go back and watch Smokey Mountain Wrestling. It's seriously about as good as NXT -- if you can pull your head out of your ass and watch it with a time context in mind. You should also try listening to Cornette some time -- it might open you up about some things.
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Old 03-29-2016, 05:55 PM   #24212
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Jari. You literally asked for "a time in which a company was thriving whilst he was part of creative" and got an example only to claim "Nah. Too long ago." Between that and the "homophobic rant" comment it seems pretty obvious you're willing to bend truths and skew things to exactly where you want them in order to justify hating Cornette.


Jari seems pretty cool. He/she just got hot when Corny knocked a product they like. But there's a really big line between "I don't agree with this person on this" and "What do they know, huh? They never did anything? Oh, that thing? La-la-la not listening. Oh, another thing? No, not counting that either. Also they hate gays and blacks and punch kittens."
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Old 03-29-2016, 06:05 PM   #24213
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Old 03-29-2016, 06:07 PM   #24214
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I think it's a hangover from the gimmick he played when he first came in the snobbish blue blood, isn't it?
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He probably didn't change it to completely assimilate with the McMahons.
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Old 03-29-2016, 06:17 PM   #24216
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Oh, that makes sense, I guess.

Was he a snobbish blue blood when he debuted as Hunter Hearst Helmsley? Cause wiki tells me he's been billed from Connecticut since then.
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Yeah, that's when he did that. It was aimed to make fun of all the other millionaires around Vince, or something.
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You're jumping into Cynick territory here. Be careful.

You completely missed the Lucha Underground point. Slow clap. The point is that just because a guy isn't writing for WWE RIGHT NOW (!) doesn't mean he hasn't forgotten more about professional wrestling than you've ever known.

Go back and watch Smokey Mountain Wrestling. It's seriously about as good as NXT -- if you can pull your head out of your ass and watch it with a time context in mind. You should also try listening to Cornette some time -- it might open you up about some things.
I've listened to Cornette, he's a bitter old man. He has had no success in the business in decades, but people on the Internet act like he has.
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You're jumping into Cynick territory here. Be careful.

You completely missed the Lucha Underground point. Slow clap. The point is that just because a guy isn't writing for WWE RIGHT NOW (!) doesn't mean he hasn't forgotten more about professional wrestling than you've ever known.

Go back and watch Smokey Mountain Wrestling. It's seriously about as good as NXT -- if you can pull your head out of your ass and watch it with a time context in mind. You should also try listening to Cornette some time -- it might open you up about some things.
A company that gave us some of Landell's best work. And the Heavenly Bodies were hot shit. He also introduced the U.S. to Jericho and Storm. Other guys who got noticed? Bob Holly, Brian Lee, The Gangstas (their SMW stuff > their ECW stuff), Candido, Sunny. And one other guy. Oh yeah, KANE.

SMW did as much for mainstream wrestling in the 90s as any other Indy. Including ECW.
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I've listened to Cornette, he's a bitter old man. He has had no success in the business in decades, but people on the Internet act like he has.
He last worked for the WWE eleven years ago. Isn't that your definition of success?
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A company that gave us some of Landell's best work. And the Heavenly Bodies were hot shit. He also introduced the U.S. to Jericho and Storm. Other guys who got noticed? Bob Holly, Brian Lee, The Gangstas (their SMW stuff > their ECW stuff), Candido, Sunny. And one other guy. Oh yeah, KANE.

SMW did as much for mainstream wrestling in the 90s as any other Indy. Including ECW.
That was 20 years ago though. You can't remember stuff like that.
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The final Raw before WrestleMania did 3.77 million viewers, an 11 percent increase from near historical lows for non-football season posted for the show on 3/21 from Philadelphia.

A show that advertised every major character from WrestleMania appearing, including Vince McMahon, Undertaker, Brock Lesnar and Shane McMahon, from the Barclays Center, was down 10 percent from the WrestleMania go-home show last year which did a 3.03 rating and 4.19 million viewers. The 2014 go-home show did a 3.18 rating and 4.38 million viewers ...

The three hours were:

8 p.m. 3.82 million viewers
9 p.m. 3.85 million viewers
10 p.m. 3.64 million viewers

Next week's show is likely to be the highest rated Raw of the year, as that is the usual pattern for the day after WrestleMania. It is usually about two weeks after WrestleMania where the ratings settle into what ends up being the usual spring levels.
RAW ended up being better than last week although continues the trend of being lower than the same week last year. Baring a massive disappointment, next week should be the highest of the year although current trends also has it lower than last year's Post-Mania show.

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The WWE's final two honorees for the Hall of Fame ceremony will be Snoop Dogg and Joan Lunden.

Snoop Dogg, who is related to Sasha Banks and has been on WWE television a few times over the years, will be the celebrity inductee. It had been rumored within wrestling for weeks and reported in past Wrestling Observer Newsletters that they were talking, and in wrestling circles, the belief was that it was a done deal.

Also reported at the time was Lunden, who will receive the Warrior award.

While the Snoop Dogg announcement was made via email, John Cena made the announcement on Lunden Monday morning on The Today Show. Lunden will be presented with the award on Saturday night by Dana, the widow of the Ultimate Warrior. Lunden, best known for her hosting Good Morning America was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2014, and very publicly battled through chemotherapy and radiation treatment.
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Progress Wrestling will be hosting two qualifying matches for WWE's new Global Cruiserweight promotion. April 24th will be the date of the tapings. These matches will begin the qualifying matches for the Global Cruiserweight tournament, designed to showcase lighter weight wrestlers and high flyers that are not necessarily already under contract to WWE. No names were announced for the matches, but names like Zack Sabre Jr., Will Ospreay and Marty Scurll immediately come to mind. Many former WWE performers that meet the cruiserweight limit (205 lbs) have also been contacted.
Update to the Cruiserweight tournament news mostly in regards to the part of former WWE wrestlers getting contacted for it. UK's Rev Pro Wrestling is also hosting qualifiers as well.

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Ethan Carter III (Michael Hutter) gave an explanation today on this Facebook page that the cancelation of his appearance at the Southside Wrestling and Preston City Wrestling shows in England was his choice, and not TNA's. He did not state specifically what the conflict was, but wrote, "Unfortunately, due to a previously unforeseen opportunity to continue building a rapport between TNA Wrestling and one our of television network partners, I was forced to cancel my appearances with both Southside and Preston City Wrestling April 2-3. Canceling is not something I take lightly." EC3 promised to make it up to the fans and the promotions. Perhaps, he would start by selling his foam fingers that he had specifically made for this trip at a discounted rate, but that's purely speculation.
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Karl Anderson was at the Performance Center in Orlando earlier today[Monday]. As noted, his arrival on television in WWE, along with that of Doc Gallows, is imminent.
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Fight Network, the world’s premier 24/7 multi-platform channel dedicated to complete coverage of combat sports, and TNA Entertainment announced today they have entered into a comprehensive content partnership to seize a global digital audience for fight-based content.

Fight Network’s over-the-top (OTT) app available on digital platforms will become the global home for TNA Wrestling content starting in the second quarter of this year. Fight Network and TNA Wrestling will collaborate to produce digital content and will also partner on cross-promotion and joint sales efforts in global markets, as well as in the U.S. and Canada.

Fight Network’s OTT app is available on Apple TV, Roku, Amazon Fire TV, Verizon Go90, Layer 3 and KlowdTV.

Fight Network is currently the home of TNA Wrestling programming in Canada, including its two hour flagship weekly program IMPACT WRESTLING, TNA Wrestling’s Greatest Matches and TNA Xplosion. Fight Network will now also air select TNA Wrestling archive programming on its linear channels in select U.S. markets and in over 30 countries across Europe, Africa and the Middle East where Fight Network currently broadcasts.
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Angelina Love, who recently gave birth to her son, announced on Twitter that she is gone from TNA and will be taking bookings in June. She noted that her contract with TNA expired while she was out pregnant. Her husband, Davey Richards, is still with TNA and rehabbing a torn ACL in his left knee.
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It's like, you can never predict the audience, no matter how smart you are. And WWE.. you know, sometimes they can and sometimes they can't, especially now. But this one? This one was a no-brainer. And the idea that they didn't figure it out.. This was one where I was really surprised how they didn't figure this out. This was an easy one. It is the typical WWE, they're trying to go right, but they can't help themselves from going left. They think that she (Eva) is so hot that everyone is going to like her. It didn't work in NXT and it obviously didn't work tonight. People have so much access to photos of hot women, that being a hot woman who can't wrestle it doesn't mean shit anymore. There was a time when it did with Tammy Sytch and Sable. But times change. If Braun Strowman showed up in the Hogan era, they could have done Wrestlemania with him and match would have sucked, but they would have drawn big money.
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When Flair returned to WWE in the fall of 2001, he was not going to be used as an in-ring performer. A couple of months later, Flair would find himself in a street fight with Vince McMahon at the Royal Rumble pay-per-view. According to Flair, The Undertaker asked to work with him at WrestleMania a few weeks later and Triple H broke the news to him shortly thereafter.

"Hunter walks out to me at [WWE Monday Night] RAW about a month [after WWE Royal Rumble] and says, 'Taker wants to work with you at 'Mania.' I said, 'what?' I mean, I was in shock, right, that he would [want to]. He said, 'yeah, well, Taker wants to work with you at WrestleMania.' And I said, 'my God, I'm overwhelmed. That's great.'" Flair continued, "I was just thrilled. I never dreamed that I would even be in that spot again because when I told him I'd come back [to WWE], I thought I was never going to wrestle. It ended up, obviously, being part of my legacy, wrestling all those matches ...

Unlike Flair's WrestleMania 8 contest with 'Macho Man' Randy Savage, which took days to orchestrate, Flair said that he and The Undertaker, along with Michael Hayes and Arn Anderson, worked out the match the day of WrestleMania and most of it was called in the ring ...

According to Flair, he was paid in Canadian dollars for WrestleMania 18, which was broadcast live from Toronto, Canada.

"Well, the difference is, remember, this is in Canada. And so, at that time, we got paid in Canadian dollars. I actually made more money wrestling Randy [Savage at WrestleMania 8 in Indianapolis, Indiana] than I did wrestling this match."

Some other sheet news includes:
  • Sports Illustrated recently had an article dealing with why ESPN tends to be very active with wrestling coverage during Mania week. http://www.si.com/more-sports/2016/0...tling-coverage
  • ESPN had a recent article dealing with WWE's injury crisis and its role hurting the Road to Mania this year. http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/1...restlemania-32
  • Taz announced Jim Ross and Todd Grisham will be his guests for Sunday's podcast episode after Mania ends.
  • Mauro Ranallo announced on Twitter he will be calling the action during Mania's pre-show matches. Will also be on the panel for NXT Takeover's pre-show. https://twitter.com/mauroranallo/sta...71149788684288
  • According to the Observer, Taker-Shane is currently set as the main event match for Mania 32.
  • In a "WWE Did You Know" type fact, today is the 18th anniversary of Stone Cold Steve Austin defeating HBK to win the WWF title at Mania XIV.
  • In another "WWE Did You Know" type fact, The Usos have been involved in 4 Manias so far in their career and all those matches have been on the pre-show. In terms of the main roster, 2nd longest tenured wrestler/team to never have a match on the actual ppv. https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc...th_wm_preshow/
  • Lucha Underground's Ivelise revealed on her Instagram page she is currently dealing with a foot injury. https://www.instagram.com/p/BDi198hgMei/
  • According to several sheet sources, Daniel Bryan is currently pushing for the WWE to release him from contract with the promise to not wrestle anywhere else. NJPW is rumored to be interested in signing him if he can get out of the contract. WWE also doesn't believe in his promise nor wants him to show up at other promotions. https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc..._daniel_bryan/
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4 matches confirmed for the PRE-SHOW

WWE App/YouTube:

U.S. Title
Kalisto (c) v. Ryback

Usos v. Dudley Boys



USA Network:

Andre The Giant Battle Royal

Team Lana v. Team Bella



WRESTLEMANIA 32:

Grudge Match
AJ Styles v. Chris Jericho

Divas Title
Charlotte (c) w/ Ric Flair v. Sasha Banks v. Becky Lynch

Tag Team Titles
New Day (c) v. League of Nations

IC Title - Ladder Match
Kevin Owens (c) v. Sami Zayn v. Stardust v. Dolph Ziggler v. The Miz v. Sin Cara v. Zack Ryder

Street Fight
Dean Ambrose v. Brock Lesnar w/ Paul Heyman

WWE Title
HHH (c) v. Roman Reigns

Hell In a Cell - Control of RAW v. Retirement
Shane McMahon v. The Undertaker

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Kallisto and Ryback isn't even on the main show? What is the point....
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Either to switch the title to Ryback or have him slip on a banana peel to try and condition fans to believe that Kalisto can beat big guys. Even though he already beat Ryback in the WWE Title tournament heading into Survivor Series.
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But Ryback wears small trunks now and does faux MMA stuff, so he's a lot scarier.
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JR is for a Triple H/Roman Reigns double-turn.
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And the silence when he's wrestling is due to the crowd being scared of him due to his credibility with his muscles and whatnot.
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I am very much for a HHH Roman double turn
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I hate HHH but he IS good enough to pull it off.
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Random idea (not saying I'm for this): Triple H is about to lose the World Title to Roman Reigns when Bray Wyatt interjects himself. "Anyone but you, Roman." He takes out Reigns and Triple H retains. The Game is about to leave with the title when Bray grabs and a mic and says "Where are you going, Hunter?" Bray wants a WWE Title shot right now. Triple H says Wyatt is losing it trying that Hulk Hogan shit here. You suddenly hear Stephanie screaming. Braun Strowman and Erick Rowan have her. Triple H is furious. Bray goads him into the title match. Wyatt hits the Sister Abigail and pins Triple H to leave WrestleMania the WWE World Champion.

It's at least an exit strategy that would cause a stir.
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He doesn't say that nearly enough anymore. I think Steph was the last one to say it.
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4 matches confirmed for the PRE-SHOW

WWE App/YouTube:

U.S. Title
Kalisto (c) v. Ryback

Usos v. Dudley Boys



USA Network:

Andre The Giant Battle Royal

Team Lana v. Team Bella



WRESTLEMANIA 32:

Grudge Match
AJ Styles v. Chris Jericho

Divas Title
Charlotte (c) w/ Ric Flair v. Sasha Banks v. Becky Lynch

Tag Team Titles
New Day (c) v. League of Nations

IC Title - Ladder Match
Kevin Owens (c) v. Sami Zayn v. Stardust v. Dolph Ziggler v. The Miz v. Sin Cara v. Zack Ryder

Street Fight
Dean Ambrose v. Brock Lesnar w/ Paul Heyman

WWE Title
HHH (c) v. Roman Reigns

Hell In a Cell - Control of RAW v. Retirement
Shane McMahon v. The Undertaker

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Don't forget the

3 on 2 Handicap match:
King Heisenberg, Team SlikDamo Vs. Food and Drink.
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That way you can put Brock over Ambrose, which allows Brock to keep his killer magic. Ambrose can be made via the loss as well as through a win. Triple H has got a reason to want Wyatt dead. Brock will be going after Wyatt. Reigns will have rapper's beef with Bray's drive-by of him at Mania.

Wyatt can beat Triple H at Payback, Reigns & Lesnar can face The Wyatt Family or something. Ambrose can be upset that Reigns is teaming with the guy who took him out. I dunno, I'm just shooting shit out.
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Random idea (not saying I'm for this): Triple H is about to lose the World Title to Roman Reigns when Bray Wyatt interjects himself. "Anyone but you, Roman." He takes out Reigns and Triple H retains. The Game is about to leave with the title when Bray grabs and a mic and says "Where are you going, Hunter?" Bray wants a WWE Title shot right now. Triple H says Wyatt is losing it trying that Hulk Hogan shit here. You suddenly hear Stephanie screaming. Braun Strowman and Erick Rowan have her. Triple H is furious. Bray goads him into the title match. Wyatt hits the Sister Abigail and pins Triple H to leave WrestleMania the WWE World Champion.

It's at least an exit strategy that would cause a stir.
You might as well turn Stephanie and have her be Sister Abigail at this point. Stephanie plus Shane w/Wyatt Family vs Vince and HHH w/Roman Reigns.
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Steph taking Triple H out because it's "best for business" is certainly a new dynamic to the McMahon family drama.
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