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Old 05-28-2018, 06:49 PM   #3401
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My issue with FO4 is it basically just became an FPS. FO3 and FO:NV played like RPGs with shooter mechanics.

But like each TES since morrowind each iteration has lost roleplaying elements until you're left with something that isnt an RPG at all.
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Old 05-28-2018, 07:52 PM   #3402
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I also liked the setting of FO4 more but I'm with Destor on the gameplay being a step backwards. I miss the RPG feeling of the older entries when I'm playing 4.
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Old 05-28-2018, 07:58 PM   #3403
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With TES it is def kind of the same issue. I never really played Morrowind so I can't gauge what it was like, but I feel like Oblivion hit the RPG sweet spot a hell of a lot better than Skyrim did.

In Oblivion I felt like my skills and stats mattered a hell of a lot more and combat was more....I dunno how to put it, pressing maybe? Felt like I had to think out my strategy more and prepare appropriately or I was going to get crushed. In Skyrim I felt like I was playing a first person action game; my stats mattered a little bit, more so with things like sneaking and lockpicking, but when it came to combat I could get by any encounter with appropriate movement and timing on parries and attacks.

TBH I feel like TESO feels superior as an RPG to Skyrim in nearly everyway. Not superior as a game overall, but definitely as an RPG.
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With TES it is def kind of the same issue. I never really played Morrowind so I can't gauge what it was like, but I feel like Oblivion hit the RPG sweet spot a hell of a lot better than Skyrim did.

In Oblivion I felt like my skills and stats mattered a hell of a lot more and combat was more....I dunno how to put it, pressing maybe? Felt like I had to think out my strategy more and prepare appropriately or I was going to get crushed. In Skyrim I felt like I was playing a first person action game; my stats mattered a little bit, more so with things like sneaking and lockpicking, but when it came to combat I could get by any encounter with appropriate movement and timing on parries and attacks.

TBH I feel like TESO feels superior as an RPG to Skyrim in nearly everyway. Not superior as a game overall, but definitely as an RPG.
If you liked Oblivion, you'd LOVE Morrowind. If you have an XBOX 360 and can find a used copy of Morrowind on the cheap, I highly recommend picking it up. The only minor issues would be you might have to download a patch on 360 if you don't have an original XBOX, to allow it to be played as a backward compatible game, and also there's a bug in the game that literally due to one line of code left out, your game could randomly crash with a bogus error saying your disc may be dirty or damaged and to press A to retry, but it's patched with a solution that creates a backup save from immediately before the game crashed.
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Most people are banking on ES 6 or Starfield being Bethesda's big reveal for the show.

They said the same thing last year though, so who knows?
Who are these people? They must be the same ones that expect the "surprise reveal" of the PS9 every year.
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Old 05-28-2018, 09:03 PM   #3406
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With morrowind the RPG aspects were much greater in the sense that your race attributes and class governerd not only how you played but how people treated you and what mission you could do and how you solved them.

Having a high acrobatics or being argonian (or having alteration magic) would def change how you approached (literally) a situation.

FO3 and FO:NV were similar. Having a high explosives could let you do a mission completely different. You felt like who you were was impacting the game.

With Skyrim and FO4 none of that means anything. A worrior who knows a single spell can be arch mage.

Thats not what role playing is...at all.
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If you liked Oblivion, you'd LOVE Morrowind. If you have an XBOX 360 and can find a used copy of Morrowind on the cheap, I highly recommend picking it up. The only minor issues would be you might have to download a patch on 360 if you don't have an original XBOX, to allow it to be played as a backward compatible game, and also there's a bug in the game that literally due to one line of code left out, your game could randomly crash with a bogus error saying your disc may be dirty or damaged and to press A to retry, but it's patched with a solution that creates a backup save from immediately before the game crashed.
Only play the xbox port if you have no other options. I like the port but it is inferior...by like...a whole bunch

And also its dated. Fair warning.
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Only play the xbox port if you have no other options. I like the port but it is inferior...by like...a whole bunch

And also its dated. Fair warning.
Oh no doubt it's dated but if you love a great story and lore and can get past the inferior by today's standards graphics and slightly complex controls and at times leggy framerate , it's great fun. Still my favorite TES game since 2002.

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My issue with FO4 is it basically just became an FPS. FO3 and FO:NV played like RPGs with shooter mechanics.

But like each TES since morrowind each iteration has lost roleplaying elements until you're left with something that isnt an RPG at all.
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I also liked the setting of FO4 more but I'm with Destor on the gameplay being a step backwards. I miss the RPG feeling of the older entries when I'm playing 4.
Obligatory Wasteland 2 plug here. At this point, it's almost more Fallout than Fallout.
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Old 05-28-2018, 11:11 PM   #3410
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Finished off and platinum'd God of War, such a great game, tied with Assassins Creed Origins for my GOTY (yeah I know Assassins came out last year but I played it this year).

Done my first playthrough of Until Dawn, fucking awesome game. Shit myself a couple of times but felt the later part wasn't as good as the start. Only one person survived by the end.

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Old 05-28-2018, 11:23 PM   #3413
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State of Decay 2

If you are going to start a legacy campaign...

SPOILER: show
... equip the three folks you are planning on using again with all the gear, base mods, and ammo (and at least one gas can between them) you can load them up with, even if it encumbers them before you do the last leader mission.

Unlike when you run the first game on endless, your shit doesn't transfer here, and once you complete that final mission, the game isn't kidding about not being able to access that base ever again. You can't even switch characters from your leader. So, if that person isn't one of the three, you're totally hosed.

You lose everything you saved up in the box on the restart. I had a LOT of good guns and ammo that got wiped.


I tagged it because better safe than sorry.
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Have gone back to playing Fallout 4 after discovering the Sim Settlements mod and its accompanying expansions Industrial Revolution and Rise of the commonwealth.

Sim Settlements adds elements of sim city and is meant to make settlements more fun and engaging, as well as making them fit in with the rest of the game better. You lay down plots based on residential, commercial, industrial, etc. Then the settlers start building on those plots themselves based on preset models. From there, you can upgrade those structures over time and your communities needs being met. The settler needs system is far more dynamic and there's even a taxes system.

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Unlike when you run the first game on endless, your shit doesn't transfer here, and once you complete that final mission, the game isn't kidding about not being able to access that base ever again. You can't even switch characters from your leader. So, if that person isn't one of the three, you're totally hosed.

You lose everything you saved up in the box on the restart. I had a LOT of good guns and ammo that got wiped.


I tagged it because better safe than sorry.
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I hated MGSV. MGS 4 is almost good enough to be console seller though
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Phantom Pain is the most disappointing game of current gen. I don't think there's even a chance of another game coming along and being such a huge let down. I guess they could REALLY fuck up FF7 REMAKE but I don't have high expectations of that project in the first place.
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Old 06-05-2018, 08:31 PM   #3425
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MGS5 made me never want to see the franchise again

FF7...remake looks bad. I will play the original when i want ff7.
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Old 06-05-2018, 11:59 PM   #3426
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But I loved Phantom Pain, and still play it to this day 3 years later.
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Old 06-06-2018, 01:06 AM   #3427
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Old 06-06-2018, 04:14 AM   #3428
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State of Decay 2

Somewhat overwhelmed by everything to manage, don't remember the first one being so micromanaged, not that it's a bad thing, just taking time getting used to. Already had two people die on me, both of whom join you right at the begining and would have been useful to keep around. Oh well.
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Somewhat overwhelmed by everything to manage, don't remember the first one being so micromanaged, not that it's a bad thing, just taking time getting used to. Already had two people die on me, both of whom join you right at the begining and would have been useful to keep around. Oh well.
It really is a lot to manage at the start. I had having to constantly have food. Also I'm not sure if my characters are going out into the world to scavenge on their own or if I have to send them to do that or if I can. Lots of unknowns for me about the game right now. I'm still going to give it more time, but if I give up on it like I did the first one, no big deal it was free with Gamepass.
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Old 06-06-2018, 10:26 AM   #3430
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Why was MGSV a letdown for so many of you guys? I hadn't played a MGS since MGSII so for me this was a vast improvement. It has elements of a lot of games that I love from Witcher 3 to GTA, and at times reminds me of my old Counter Strike games. I guess people find it repetitive? Which I understand but it's a repetition that I really love. I love having to extract a prisoner or highly skilled soldier. Choosing my battle plan to invade. Will I go Rambo or will I go full stealth. Currently stuck on Mission 31 until I make enough money to develop some more intense weaponry to take down Sahelanthropus.
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Probably going to buy Far Cry 5 after I am done with MGSV and SOD 2.
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MGSV is my first MGS game since the first one and it's slowly growing on me. The one function I appreciate is the ability to travel to MB and discipline my troops
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I get that for some players it's just fun to run around the open world fultoning things and clearing outposts, making your own narrative as you go. If this wasn't mainline MGS then maybe I wouldn't view it as harshly or held it to such a high standard. But it is.

The pacing is terrible, the intro starts with such promise and then it falls into the usual open world trap of sacrificing storytelling for meaningless side quests and endless title sequences or end credits. Repetition upon repetition upon repetition.

Snake isn't Snake, He has barely any personality. He's a passive, mostly silent avatar and that makes the info dump you constantly get from Miller and Ocelot even more obtrusive than the codec spam from previous games. Stunt casting Keifer actually harmed the character, not because he's bad at all but because he's a gimmick and he's barely present. They then double down on this by making your only human support character a mute.

Boss battles are forgettable filler, nothing here even comes close to previous entries which were stacked full of creativity.

The Big Boss heel turn is completely handwaved. The pay-off for the main plot points storylines are rushed, flat, or in some cases entirely unresolved (not entirely Kojima's fault tbf). Narratively it is a complete failure and to me that makes a poor Metal Gear experience. The story beats don't even top Ground Zeroes ffs. The drop in quality from the other numbered games is severe and incredibly disappointing.
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It was a let down because you didnt play 3 or 4 which are legit all time masterpieces.
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I played them along with the psp ones (minus acid) and still consider it a strong tie to the series. Metal Gear Survive on the other hand.
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Deleted it from my PS4 recently after finishing the last few trophies to get the full 💯% score.
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