10-01-2018, 12:02 PM | #41 |
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You are the minority here. Most people open their doors. Most people would offer the eggs. It's the reality of the insidious and unrepentant killer. Do you apply these standards to other horror films too? Surely not. I have yet to see a horror film completely populated by intelligent, rational survivors.
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10-01-2018, 12:09 PM | #42 |
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I bet most people do not open their doors. It's not 1950's gee-golly polyanna.
It's 2018 (er, 2007 when the film takes place). Most people probably don't even talk to their neighbors. I don't. I can't even tell you one of their names and I couldn't tell you what any of them do for a living. Maybe it's a city thing. It might be different if someone lived in the country or a rural area. I donut know. Anyways, congrats on saying horror. #CarryOnAll |
10-01-2018, 12:22 PM | #43 |
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Opening the door when it's rung or knocked is pretty standard in towns and villages right enough. I probably shouldn't speak for cities having never lived in one.
Still, the film is set in a lovely big summer house as far as I remember. If anyone shares eggs it's those fuckers. |
10-01-2018, 12:29 PM | #44 |
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The original film is from 97, in Europe which has different social norms than the US. Not everyone who knocks on your door is trying kill you or sell you something. I'd say it's normal to ask a favor like eggs, especially considering the remote location of the setting. You should watch the original Slik.
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10-01-2018, 12:30 PM | #45 |
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And Sean I can totally see the argument for the film not being in the horror genre but for me, the feelings it raised, it is a horror film. It's scary, haunting, has jump moments and stays with you for years and years. I haven't seen this movie for at least 7 or 8 years.
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10-01-2018, 12:37 PM | #46 |
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Sometimes a film may make a subliminal statement about the film industry and it's fans or society in general, as this movie does. But more often than not those statements are not the impact that stays with me, this movie is a good example of that. I don't watch films for "statements" but rather to see creative storytelling, basically a good entertainment experience. I'm generally not a statement minded person when it comes to film and theatre, I'm more about an emotional connection/development over the course of the story. I do notice these themes (not always) but I don't hinge my enjoyment of a picture on the subliminal. For instance the statement of casting a black lead in NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD was lost on me when I first saw the film because I was a kid who didn't grow up during the civil rights movement. I can look back and that and be like "oh, cool". But it doesn't affect my enjoyment of the film aside from the fact that the performance he gave was awesome and totally memorable.
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10-01-2018, 01:02 PM | #47 |
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I just want to say I donut think Jordan X gets enough credit on here.
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10-01-2018, 01:56 PM | #48 |
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It's not a subliminal statement. It's shoved right under your nose from the get go. Real violence is horrid, abrupt and sometimes you see it coming but can't get out of the way for one reason or another.
Copycat films since Funny Games now gleefully take this message and remove all nuance so they can shovel in more grim "reality". Eden Lake and Cherry Tree Lane are two particularly nasty and worthless imitators but again, I can see why some people enjoy them as straight horror films. Funny Games is hopelessly bleak in both incarnations, it's just that Arno Frisch plays the part so much more naturally than anyone else could, and Michael Pitt is a beautiful performer. Arno is your realistic smiling sociopath, Michael Pitt is the Hollywood impression of it. The remake cops out in those ways in which the original excelled despite being a shot for shot. Part of that has to do with the very notion of remaking a film that is so brilliant at what it does...but what it does is terrible to look at. It's an experience so horrible that there's no attraction to watching it ever again. But it is essentially spot on with what it does. |
10-01-2018, 02:49 PM | #49 |
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Hate when a movie does this. Have some dickheads go around murdering people with no payoff.
I want to see my villains get theirs. On that note, I am reading the manga wolfsmund, and it has the best comeuppance for villain I've just about ever seen. SPOILER: show |
10-01-2018, 02:49 PM | #50 |
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That's precisely why it baffles me that people keep reworking the theme into other films. I do not understand why anyone would take a film which serves only as a piece of artful social commentary and trash it by missing the point. It's a hell of a lot less powerful now that it has a genre around it. The fact that Haneke remade it bothers me too. The lucre was obviously more attractive than the point he was making. |
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10-01-2018, 10:25 PM | #52 |
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If you want to mix it up with something older.
The Innocents (1961) - I don't know if everyone from the UK is required to see this, but it is one of my favourite older horror films. There is a "window scene" that I still think is one of the creepiest moments in MOVIE HISTORY. Onibaba (1964) - Just a darn good flick. Phantom Carriage (1921) - Not really scary, but atmospheric and dreamlike. FUN FACT, it inspired the axe scene in The Shining. |
10-09-2018, 01:15 AM | #53 |
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I just watched Clown on Netflix. Very nicely done. Check it out.
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10-09-2018, 07:00 PM | #54 |
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Always disappointed when a spirit turns out to be benevolent and some dumb boring human is revealed as the true villain.
I wanty ghosts to be ancient hoorors or sadistic murderers. That's where its at. |