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Old 05-18-2020, 06:22 PM   #1401
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I think empty arena shows have gone pretty much as far as they can go in all companies. Even when you try to shoot things creatively or have the other wrestlers serve as an unofficial audience, the lack of a proper crowd really saps a lot of the energy away from everything.

I do think that once things are "normal" again, everyone will get back some of their viewers who decided to take a break. The problem is I don't know if they'll get back everybody because some people will have found other things to do especially as this drags on longer and longer.
Between WWE, AEW, Impact, and AAA that have held empty arena shows, WWE hit that wall the fastest. Only real option left is to pump in fake crowd noise or have a virtual crowd like the idea WWE had. Even then, that might only buy a few more weeks depending on the company before hitting the wall again.

In regards to crowds coming back, that's been the big concern ever since these empty arena shows started. Current speculation is WWE likely is gong to suffer the most based on past history whenever they bled away viewers. NXT probably won't be hurt that much but RAW and SD probably going to be lucky if they get like half of their lost audience back.
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Old 05-19-2020, 04:27 PM   #1402
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This is actually about 200k higher than I guessed it would be


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Old 05-19-2020, 06:09 PM   #1403
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WWE probably should have had another surprise baby announcement considering the ratings it got last week.

Last night's show wasn't that bad compared to recent weeks since it actually build up a bunch of interesting stuff for once but was still a bit of a chore to actually sit through to watch.
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Old 05-19-2020, 06:28 PM   #1404
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Old 05-21-2020, 04:41 PM   #1405
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AEW took the #7 spot on cable for Wednesday night

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Old 05-21-2020, 05:46 PM   #1406
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Bit surprised AEW did that well considering last night's episode was not one of their better ones. If there ever was a chance for NXT to steal a win without needing to throw out another Takeover-level show and/or matches, last night was that chance.

More worrisome for NXT is that key demo number set their new lowest ever since moving to USA Network. If it wasn't for WWE's old audience doing all the heavy lifting, NXT probably would be a lot closer to Impact on Pop TV numbers for the week.
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NXT's biggest problems are Gargano, Cole, Ciampa, Mauro & Beth.

When NXT began they shifted new people into the main-event scene every year or so. Cole/Gargano/Ciampa have eaten NXT for years now. It's so played out. Beth is just bad and Mauro is unbearable.
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Old 05-21-2020, 06:50 PM   #1408
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At least in regards to talent and NXT Creative feeling stale or lazy at times, can blame Vince and Triple H for that.

Can even make the case what happened to NXT is one of the few times where Vince wasn't the main person at fault since Triple H wrecked NXT's entire call-up system all because of his ego and well before AEW was even a thing.

Vince and main Creative screwing up the handling of talent on the main roster has been bad but Triple H's reaction to it was even worse since it directly affects NXT and its shown in recent months.
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It's weird how NXT had me hooked for about a year or two but I lost interest after Nakamura debuted there, I found his run quite dry and never really went back.
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It's weird how NXT had me hooked for about a year or two but I lost interest after Nakamura debuted there, I found his run quite dry and never really went back.
NXT is still so good at its core, but they use it to try and get over their other stuff FAR too much.

If I wanted to watch 205 Live, I would watch 205 Live.
If I wanted to watch NXT UK, I would watch NXT UK.

I don't know if that is Trips ego or Vince pushing that, but it's very easy to flip over to Dynamite when Tony Nese vs Jake Atlas comes on.
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Old 05-23-2020, 11:19 AM   #1412
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Here's how the big 4 shows did in live TV ratings this week


SD - 2.04 million
RAW - 1.75 million
AEW - 701k
NXT - 592k
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Old 05-24-2020, 11:06 PM   #1413
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Whoa is SD regularly beating Raw now?
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Old 05-24-2020, 11:40 PM   #1414
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Yeah. Combo of RAW taking a big beating this year for ratings, SD being on a higher profile network, and Fridays usually being the weakest night for television in terms of major competition.
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Whoa is SD regularly beating Raw now?
Since it moved to FOX I think there was only 1 week RAW beat SD and it was because it aired on FS1 instead of FOX that week.
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Old 05-27-2020, 03:15 PM   #1416
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The Rock's show did well in demos on NBC Monday Night


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RAW dipped slightly from last week but still took 3 of the top 4 spots on Cable Monday night.


Avg - 1.735 million
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2nd lowest ever viewership but on the bright side, at least the hourly drops were small and RAW managed to do well against the 90 Days Fiance shows and Rock's Titan Games.
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AEW: 827,000
NXT 731,000


Even with Tyson they still can't break 1 million. Embarrassing.

Tony Khan should sit down and talk with Dixie Carter. She could at least draw 1 million.
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Great week for both AEW and NXT

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Fun Fact:

If you add up the ratings for both AEW and NXT they total 1.558 million. That is only 177,000 less viewers than RAW had on Monday Night.
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Would really love to know what AEW and NXT's numbers would be if they weren't cutting into each other's markets.
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If you add up the ratings for both AEW and NXT they total 1.558 million. That is only 177,000 less viewers than RAW had on Monday Night.
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Would really love to know what AEW and NXT's numbers would be if they weren't cutting into each other's markets.
Probably close to the combined live weekly numbers since that's what they were leaning towards when you include DVR viewers before the coronavirus wrecked that stat. AEW probably would still have the advantage in viewers by a couple hundred thousands at most.
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I think everyone who wants to watch AEW prioritizes it. If they're fans of the company, they're doing what they can to support it over NXT. Plus, NXT still drops on the Network, doesn't it? I'm sure instead of watching four hours of wrestling every Wednesday, people just watch NXT then, since a lot of AEW fans probably have the Network.

I think it goes to follow that NXT's numbers would go up. I say that because a lot of AEW fans would probably check out NXT more frequently if it were on a Tuesday or a Thursday. If they removed it from the Network too. The AEW audience is probably their audience. NXT would have a chance of getting the combined live numbers, maybe even a little more without the Network (like 200k or so), while AEW would probably get a much smaller boost from a very select few amount of people who prioritize NXT for whatever reason.
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NXT would go up the most but they'd probably end up being in a virtual tie at most since the WWE Network probably is only strong enough to cover the live and DVR gaps AEW has over them.

Since the Network very likely leans more towards WWE older viewers, AEW probably would still keep the key demo advantage they have going on if they were on separate days.
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Would really love to know what AEW and NXT's numbers would be if they weren't cutting into each other's markets.
I know I'm in the minority, but as someone that flips back and forth each week, I think if they were on different days I would might not watch either anymore than I already do. Them being on at the same makes it harder to miss either one.

I could see each gaining maybe half the viewers of the others if they were on different nights and pulling a solid million viewers each week, but I think the other half would be lost. 400k people would only watch one and not the other.
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Meltzer reporting that AEW and Mike Tyson didn't crack the top Google searches, meaning less than 50,000 searches.

Been saying this for a year now : AEW's biggest hurdle is people thinking any company other than WWE is second rate because WWE has become the Kleenex of facial tissue. Something they were never shake.

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Meltzer reporting that AEW and Mike Tyson didn't crack the top Google searches, meaning less than 50,000 searches.

Been saying this for a year now : AEW's biggest hurdle is people thinking any company other than WWE is second rate because WWE has become the Kleenex of facial tissue. Something they were never shake.

https://411mania.com/wrestling/nothi...fter-dynamite/
Also, as much as Tyson has some cache, he doesn't have 1998-levels of cache. Plus, it's not like they have the combustible Austin element. I even read in the results the observer guy saying "this was decently executed but it's not a needle mover."

God bless them for trying, though.
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I figured with his rumored comeback that he'd have a lot of buzz right now. Especially in the sports world where nothing is going on.
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I figured with his rumored comeback that he'd have a lot of buzz right now. Especially in the sports world where nothing is going on.
It probably should have a bit. But still, not having the WWE name plus missing that combustible Austin-like element really hurts. Who fucking cares about Tyson and Jericho, as much as I love Chris.
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But I don't think current day Tyson could really do anything with anyone from the WWE roster either. Would have a better chance just because of the marketing reach of WWE, but beyond that, I dunno.
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