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Old 06-05-2021, 06:35 AM   #201
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Ryback jobbing to Henry at 29 (and clean, no less, if I recall), was absolutely retarded. BUT, damn that next night when he came out and attacked Cena, the crowd were hot for that! I remember not knowing if it was a heel turn or just a "he's had enough and he's gunning for the champ" kinda thing, but it was awesome!

Of course... that was as good as it got for Ryback.
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Old 06-05-2021, 06:37 AM   #202
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That Vince/Creative didn’t “get” Aleister Black and couldn’t find something decent for him to do is insane. A dude that looks like that, who walks to the ring and kicks people’s faces off. You don’t even really need to try. There’s an almost never-ending list of guys that could be/could have been more than they were in WWE. They look back and laugh at WCW for letting go a “Stunning” Steve Austin. You think he even gets the chance to become “Stone Cold” in this era?
Probably doesn't give any new talent much hope that they're gonna be used properly.
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Old 06-05-2021, 10:11 AM   #203
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Ryback jobbing to Henry at 29 (and clean, no less, if I recall), was absolutely retarded. BUT, damn that next night when he came out and attacked Cena, the crowd were hot for that! I remember not knowing if it was a heel turn or just a "he's had enough and he's gunning for the champ" kinda thing, but it was awesome!

Of course... that was as good as it got for Ryback.
I’d say that Punk feud before he jobbed in the cell was as good as it got for him but going out of their way to bury him so much then jobbing him clean to Mark Henry at WrestleMania only to move him into a feud with Cena for the title the very next night might be the peak of WWE having no fucking idea what they’re doing.
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Old 06-05-2021, 10:22 AM   #204
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If it makes you feel better, I think your Ryback take was spot-on for the most part.
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Old 06-05-2021, 11:30 AM   #205
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Nobody wants to sign Ryback. He's insane. I never cared for.him outside of the few 6 man tags he was apart of at one time with the likes of Braun, Punk, and The Sheild.
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Old 06-05-2021, 11:33 AM   #206
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I know he was a huge muscle-bound dude but.... I always found him too short/small to be taken seriously as a "monster". Plus all that stuff with not being able to lift some of the bigger dudes
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Old 06-05-2021, 11:39 AM   #207
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It only happened to Tensai. Tensai didn't exactly help Ryback getting up there.

He later did the Shellshock to Khali and the Big Show
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Old 06-05-2021, 11:50 AM   #208
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As long as Ryback doesn't have to cut any long promos, I'd be fine seeing him rassle again.
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Old 06-05-2021, 04:56 PM   #209
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Ryback was as much a victim of bad timing as anything else. Vince was dead set on giving us to Rock vs. Cena 2 for the WWE Title. And nothing was going to stop him. Not CM Punk finding his groove as the top heel in the company. Not Cena get injured. And certainly NOT some guy getting over in the midcard.

The biggest problem for Vince at that time was, there was no one else who could have stepped into the role of Cena at that point. And, as over as the Ryback was, he wasn't mentally ready for that moment. In a year's time, he may have been. But they needed an opponent for Punk, and no one else was credible at that point (I think at the time I called it 'Cena Uber Alles' booking). So, they had to take the guy gunning for the mid card belt and get him ready to face the World Champion.

Then, they had to do this in a themed pay per view, which required it to be in a Hell in a Cell match. So, they had to show him lose, but in a way that didn't make him look weak. That leads to the next month, and with Cena thrown in the mix, as well. This is where the really bad timing REALLY comes into effect. They need a reason to make him lose in a ladder match and not look weak again. This time, they debut 3 guys to cost him the match. Those 3 guys just so happened to all be guys you could build a company around. So they have to look credible. How do you make them look credible? They have to beat people. Who did they beat more than anyone else? Ryback. What do you call a big world beater who can't beat the world? A loser. They would have been better off not putting him in that spot at al.

What messed Ryback up the most happened before even Hell in a Cell. They needed a big powerful man doing big powerful things. Ryback was the big powerful man. But he couldn't lift up Tensai. And that kind of made him look bad. Oddly enough, a not so big powerful man (which is a crazy way to describe a man who is 6'5" and 232 lbs.) did a big powerful thing that same night. One of them is getting trolled to retire endlessly. The other has been a mainstay in the company since then, he's not a top guy, either. However, Cesaro can and has been used in several roles and made them work.
There’s not much I disagree with in here. The WWE did fuck him up. He could have been used in a way better role within a certain context — but that context wasn’t “The Guy.” He just wasn’t that good and didn’t have the right...much of anything. He was a fun throwback to big dudes having squash matches. He was a facsimile of what people missed about their childhoods in wrestling, missing that true authenticity and true ability to connect.


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I know he was a huge muscle-bound dude but.... I always found him too short/small to be taken seriously as a "monster". Plus all that stuff with not being able to lift some of the bigger dudes
There’s that too. For all the good there was to his look, he didn’t have anywhere near the presence of, say, a Goldberg. In people’s head canon he was there, and there’s something to be said for a guy getting that far. But he wasn’t actually there. If he was, you better believe Vince would have put the strap on him.
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Old 06-06-2021, 08:42 PM   #210
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Nobody wants to sign Ryback. He's insane. I never cared for.him outside of the few 6 man tags he was apart of at one time with the likes of Braun, Punk, and The Sheild.
He is, but he also still has that mystique because he never went anywhere else.

I don't think at this stage he would be much of a difference maker long term, but he would "pop the terrority" for a short while, certainly bigger than Christian, Mark Henry, or Big Show.
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Old 06-06-2021, 09:55 PM   #211
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Dude, Paul Wight is the BIGGEST signing in AEW history and Mark Henry is the STRONGEST signing they could make.
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Old 06-06-2021, 09:56 PM   #212
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I would say that Ryback is STARVED to get back in the ring though.
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