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Old 05-28-2021, 08:51 PM   #2441
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Yeah, Japanese fanbases are much less fickle then western audiences,and typically very loyal. It usually takes something monumental to get fans to turn away en masse. See: The AJPW exodus to the newly formed Noah, The Death of Misiwa, and New Japan's disastorous early 00's booking combined with the rise of Pride FC.
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Old 05-28-2021, 09:21 PM   #2442
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I don't think people would stop watching NJPW, just because NXT Japan showed up. There's a huge difference between the UK scene and Japan, so I don't think those results would be the same. And if both companies are willing to cross promote each other's services, NJPW would get boatloads of new subscribers.
They would if NJPW were to no longer exist or be just a hollow shell of itself and not like the early to mid-2000s phase in the company's history.

This whole partnership idea assumes WWE and NJPW would be treated as equals when neither does that for their partnerships both in the current and past. Even if the short term they were seen as equals, WWE isn't going to let NJPW get any strong foothold in the US while using NJPW as the backdoor into a stronger foothold in Japan and toss them to the side when NJPW no longer has any real use for them.

All you have to do is look up some of Triple H's past interviews and he paints a very clear picture what his goal is for NXT's global expansion plans and WWE suddenly being cozy with other promotions. Only reason NXT Japan's first attempt was a huge bust was due to WWE skipping the cozy part and went right into the end game part.
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Old 05-30-2021, 01:20 AM   #2443
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Drew McIntyre is now teasing the working arrangement. Could be nothing, but Drew seems like a pretty plugged-in company guy. Seems less likely to go into business for himself like the AEW guys.
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Old 05-30-2021, 05:53 AM   #2444
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Ishii vs Walter and Sheamus, please
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Ishii is the perfect sort of guy to bring in, because he can win some and lose some and it doesn’t cripple anything.
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Old 06-01-2021, 07:45 PM   #2446
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Well, Dominion is this coming Monday.

As of right now you're looking at :

Okada vs. Takagi for the IWGP Heavyweight Championship.

El Desperado vs. YOH for the Jr. Heavyweight Championship

Kota Ibushi vs. Jeff Cobb.


More matches to be announced to the card later in the week I'm guessing.
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Old 06-01-2021, 10:22 PM   #2447
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I really want Takagi to have a run with the belt, but I think the smart move is to put it on Okada to regain some stability in the title picture and try to build it back up after all this tumultuous booking.
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I don’t see a wrong outcome to that IWGP Title match. Okada is the guy that brings a bit of status quo back to the belt, but Shingo winning it would be an amazing lark and something out there and exciting too.
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Old 06-04-2021, 03:46 PM   #2449
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Missed you, Miho Abe.

Now all we need it Pieter to come back and shake her ass and things will almost be back to normal in NJPW land.
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Old 06-07-2021, 09:02 AM   #2450
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Well I'll be damned

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Shingo has done it

Imagine going back to when the pandemic started and telling someone that in the span of a year you'd have EVIL, Ibushi, Ospreay, and Shingo all having IWGP title reigns
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Old 06-07-2021, 09:15 AM   #2451
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They should try to keep him Champion for a long run. They gotta use the G1 wisely this year. I haven't watched NJPW pretty much since AEW started because the roster feels like a rerun constantly. I don't know who they can make at the G1 this year but I hope they make a new star. Gonna be tough with covid and travel restrictions. I can't imagine they will get the sellouts they are accustomed to.
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Old 06-07-2021, 11:03 AM   #2452
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Yeah, if they're not going with Okada then they at least have to give Shingo a good long run. And let's not have any 1st time champions for a while. Winning the iwgp title for the first time used to mean something but we've had 4 in the span of just over a year, and I feel that definitely takes away some of the prestige of the belt as well as that special feeling when someone does win it for the first time.
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I’m pretty sure Gedo will let Shingo run with it for a while. He’s probably aware he crowned a few first-time champions.
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Old 06-08-2021, 09:59 AM   #2454
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Okada publicly shitting all over the title unification. I love it.
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Old 06-08-2021, 03:06 PM   #2455
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Seeing this before every IWGP title defense was great



So much for that when you blow it up and start a new title lineage
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They should have just dropped the US Title. Not feeling this unification or even there being no IC belt myself. Keep Heavyweight, IC and NEVER Openweight as your Triple Crown. Don’t know if you need two tag divisions. Maybe keep the Jr. Heavyweight and NEVER Six-Man as something novel.
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I don't understand what has changed? Is this about The IWGP/IC unified title? Did they start a new linage?
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Old 06-09-2021, 07:24 PM   #2458
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When they created the new belt they started a new lineage with Ibushi as the first champion.

Because they've lost their fucking minds.
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Old 06-09-2021, 07:25 PM   #2459
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And then Ibushi lost it, and then Ospreay got hurt shortly after and had to vacate, so you know, off to a rollicking good start.
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Have you guys any knowledge on G1 for this year? I haven't seen anything about it yet.
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Probably nothing until after the Olympics. Even then, with the way things are going there pandemic-wise those outside the country might be skeptical about coming back.
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New Japan and WWE don’t need to be equal in a partnership for it to be beneficial to both companies. The WWE wants content, and New Japan bring a different flavor to Peacock and wherever else they end up. They also get fresh talent and a morale boost to their locker-room, while also blocking the far-distant #2 from using a potential relationship to sweeten their deals by pretending they are more artistic.

New Japan gets way, WAY more exposure than they ever would working with anyone else out there now, and also get access to talent who better fit their style. And huge name talent that would freshen up BOTH sides. I’m sorry, but even if you don’t think his “style” fits New Japan, Randy Orton hitting RKOs in the Tokyo Dome is a bigger deal than The Bucks working. It also allows guys like Cesaro, Dolph Ziggler and WALTER work over there and get a fresh coat of paint (if they need it).
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I haven't been watching NJPW but it does seem like they should skip G1 or at least replace the Tag League with a late season G1. I can't imagine a highly successful G1 without foreign workers. This is a great time to get some of the NJPW of America over in Japan.
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There's no way they're skipping the G1 entirely, but yeah without foreigners in there it's just not gonna be the same.

Without foreigners their next resort would be to see if they can work a deal with any of the other Japanese promotions to have a couple guys from outside of NJPW in the tourney as they used to.
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Working with other promotions in Japan would definitely be interesting! I'd probably have to get into that.
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Old 06-18-2021, 08:15 AM   #2466
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Btw Tom Lawler retired from MMA last night. Hopefully he gets a shot in Japan proper.
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There's no way they're skipping the G1 entirely, but yeah without foreigners in there it's just not gonna be the same.

Without foreigners their next resort would be to see if they can work a deal with any of the other Japanese promotions to have a couple guys from outside of NJPW in the tourney as they used to.
AJPW please
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Old 06-18-2021, 09:59 AM   #2468
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I'd be all for AJPW involvement.

It's not even like they can't do a G1 with the roster currently on the mainland, but we've seen so many of those matches a thousand times and while many of them will be good, you just gotta throw some outsiders in there to mix it up a bit.
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