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Old 10-13-2018, 11:19 PM   #41
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Old 10-17-2018, 01:35 AM   #42
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:21 PM   #43
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Gonna be playing this today, as a friend sent me a beta code.
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:31 PM   #44
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Seems Bethesda is fully self-aware that Fallout 76 is going to launch with a lot of bugs.

Instead of waiting till after launch to make an official statement, they decided to make a preemptive one admitting its in their DNA to make bug-riddled games and that they will be very busy after launch trying to iron those bugs out and get as much help as possible for it.


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Old 10-23-2018, 07:02 PM   #45
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I'm convinced this is going to be one of those games that appeals to a certain group of people at launch, and as Bethesda navigates through problems and feedback, they will make more and more improvements until it becomes more universally praised. Kind of like ESO, FF14, Warframe, etc.

I'm still skeptical about not having any NPCs. I thnk Bethesda can make it work, I just don't know that they will at launch. As I said, it seems like the kind of thing that they're not going to nail on their first try, and will require feedback and experimentation to get to where it needs to be. Par for the course with this type of game though.
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Sounds like not a lot of enemy variety, penalizing fast travel (via making players pay to fast travel with caps), textures that sometimes don't load at all and being distracted by events while attempting quests are some early complaints from the beta.
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Old 10-25-2018, 06:40 AM   #47
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I found 10 different enemies, and 5 different passive creatures in the small starting area alone. Public Events are not mandatory. You can completely ignore them. So I don't know what those complaints are about. I didn't experience any missing textures in my plyathrough, but those types of things are expected in a bethesda game, and I expect they'll look into patching it.

Heisenberg and I had fun with the Beta.

This game is definitely for a specific type of fan. The type that enjoys just wandering the wasteland discovering things more than comleteing quests. Personally I've always enjoyed the stories Bethesda puts in where you enter a location and discover the aftermath of an event, and as you delve deeper, you unravel what happened. I've always thought those stories felt more organic, and had more mystique than some talking head telling you to go somewhere and do something.

And thats pretty much what the story in this game. In the short time I had to play I discovered around 25 holotapes and a dozen letters.
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Some have reported that the events were ones that they only ended up going to while trying to have a quest as the active marker on the map, IDK.

Also, Perk Cards seem like a disaster waiting to happen. Bethesda needs to resist any possible temptation to monetize them as I fear it would turn people off to the game. Maybe not to Battlefront II levels, but enough that their reputation might take a serious hit if there were major fan backlash over such a decision.
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Agreed on that, but for what it's worth I believe they already stated there would be no microtransactons
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I will keep going at Fallout 4 as havent completed it. Then will wait for reviews and price drops to see of I go for this one.
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Red Dead has killed my interest in this. Going from the most detailed, and life like open world ever created, to this typical bethesda world, makes me immediately bored. It wouldn't matter if there were NPC's. There's just a feeling of been there done that. The increased vegetation would help make it feel different, but I modded Fallout 4 to have that a long time ago.

If Heisenberg and the rest of the Megapowers get it I'll probably buy it anyway, as playing Joust is a riot with those guys, but it will be a game I only play socially.

Dunno. I guess RDR2 just raised the bar for me, way too damn much.
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Agreed on that, but for what it's worth I believe they already stated there would be no microtransactons
There will be but they claim they will only be for buying cosmetic items, which if true, OK fine, whatever. But they will have to avoid at all costs the temptation to apply them to Perk Card packs.
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I will keep going at Fallout 4 as havent completed it. Then will wait for reviews and price drops to see of I go for this one.
Who are you siding with or have you decided yet? Also, you might want to avoid Preston Garvey at all costs if you don't already know. He has a tendency to be very pushy with quests.
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Old 11-18-2018, 01:19 AM   #54
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Agreed on that, but for what it's worth I believe they already stated there would be no microtransactons
Yeahhhh.... but they also said the same thing about Fallout Shelter; that it was just a fun app to play with no microtransactions.

That totally became a false statement with a later update.
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So how is it fellers? Still getting some Redemption of the Red and Dead variety.
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So how is it fellers? Still getting some Redemption of the Red and Dead variety.
So bad that if you're wondering why not very many non-gamer reviews have popped up, they're all basically waiting to see if Bethesda will make enough improvements to justify better reviews/review scores.

Don't know for sure because I refuse to play it probably ever, but it has been pretty much universally panned by gamers as evidenced by a ton of reviews on MetaCritic.
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This game is objectively bad and i think less of fignuts' opinion for him saying there was a niche for this
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lol I never said the niche would be large. Bad as the game is there will absolutely be a group of people playing this, and trying to convince everyone it’s great. Every game that is at least somewhat competent has a following. If it didn’t No Man Sky would never have made it as far as it has.

My first impressions were good. I really did have fun. But the game appeals to me in ways that it may not for a lot of people. That said, while I had fun, I can see that the things I do like about it won’t be enough to hold my interest for very long unless Bethesda makes some serious changes.

I’m not defending the game, destor. If you read my previous posts, I was skeptical from very beginning about not having Mocs, and I said they deserve to get called out if it sucks. My initial problem was with all fuck tards judging the mere concept of the game, and saying it shouldn’t exist despite the fact that there are obviously lots of people who would love to roam the wasteland with friends.

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As long as we can agree that this is broken and barely functions in it current state i will resume valuing your critique
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Of course. I said before I didn’t think it would be good at launch and it isn’t. The novelty of it and having a new map to explore made it fun for a couple hours but I got bored with it after that.

Now the question is whether they can salvage it.
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Bought it as an early Christmas gift for my partner and they're having a great time and it's been, like, 8 hours of gameplay. No major glitches or hassle. Every player they've ran across has been friendly, though I'm sure that'll change eventually. This is on a standard Xbox One, if that matters.

A few things seem questionable, to me. The AI of the Radstags that mostly seem cool with being shot a few times, the game claiming a wandering tabby cat was an enemy and you can seemingly get the reward for community events if you're just in the area.

On the whole, it seems the game is functional and enjoyable and all this hoopla about it being an unplayable broken mess may have been overstated because this is the internet.
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It has not been overstated at all. Disconnects are frequent. Enemy AI stops script fequently. Sever wide crashed can be initiated by the players (and can happen on their own as well.) Major quest lines are completely unplayable. Sever overload can cause your controls to shut off.

This is a mess. Your 8 hours have been lucky (and that is also not a of time at all)
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Yeah people got disconnected one time in particular when 3 nukes were simultaneously launched at the same site. SMH
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Old 11-23-2018, 05:53 PM   #65
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I heard about the nuke situation. That is bad.

I played a couple hours myself. Worst thing I got was a wild mongrel who moved around without a walking animation so it looked like it was skating.
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If you needed proof that this is an outlandish failure we're one week post release and the game is on sale. Unprecedented.
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Fallout 4 is still fun. Just got my son Far Harbor and Nuka World.
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It is also black friday though
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Fallout 4 is still fun. Just got my son Far Harbor and Nuka World.
Automatron DLC is awesome too. Too bad the vanilla game couldn't live up to the DLCs.
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It is and it isn't. They have some pretty new games going fairly low on black Friday, and not flops either. But none so new as Fallout 76, and I don't recall many if any THAT new that have gotten discounts. Usually they need to have been out 4-6 weeks, it seems, before they are considered for a black Friday deal.

But in this specific case, Destor is right. This has nothing to do with the sales going on. 76 was already dropped to $40 bucks on multiple major retailers sites before any of their black Friday week sales ever started. It's being sold lower because it's shit and I think they may be weighing their options on whether or not they are going to expand upon it with dlc and whatnot, or if they are just going to patch out some of the bugs and just let it meander pretty much as is. This is one turd they may want to write off ASAP; It's literally being panned harder than No Man's Sky was at launch....that's brutal.
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Theyre trying to get as many Christmas sales as possible because they know that other than Grandma gifting this game its not going to move.

It'll sell new for $20 after the new year.
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Amazing what the threat of a class-action lawsuit hovering over a game company like the sword of Damocles will do as Bethesda have finally broken their silence via the game's website, saying that they plan to release not just smaller future patches but also there will be 2 in as many weeks, one on Dec. 4th and one Dec. 11th, but whether further weekly patches to make it semi-playable and interesting at this point is unknown.

https://fallout.bethesda.net/article...vember-27-2018
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Amazing what the threat of a class-action lawsuit hovering over a game company like the sword of Damocles will do as Bethesda have finally broken their silence via the game's website, saying that they plan to release not just smaller future patches but also there will be 2 in as many weeks, one on Dec. 4th and one Dec. 11th, but whether further weekly patches to make it semi-playable and interesting at this point is unknown.

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The lawsuit is about their digital refund policy
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Not that lawyers always take cases as publicity stunts, but I had heard that they were contemplating adding details to the complaint about it being an unfinished, buggy mess to give it more legal ground to possibly stand on. I'm well aware of the guy who, let's face it, was absolutely PROMISED a refund by Bethesda once they figured a way to process it in one e-mail, only to basically have the follow-up say, "Oops, sorry, ya know that refund we totally promised you'd get eventually? (teeth sucking sfx)...Yeaaaaah...we actually can't do that, 'K, byeeee." He was screwed and he should get his refund.

I don't care what your "policy" states, if you're not going to enforce it for one person for a heavily unpopular game, they'd better be ready to give refunds to everyone else who wants one also or they'll have a real shit storm on their hands, and they'll tank so hard they won't survive to see the 9th generation.
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This is a lawyer i follow on YouTube. Smart guy. Knows copyright laws real well happens to be a fallout fan seeking a refund through bethesda. Brings on a lawyer freind of his. 80 min vid but it details the case very well.
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I honestly don't know what's worse, Bethesda's half-assed apology or their lame "Here, these 500 Atoms we give you to use in our terrible game totally fixes everything, right? 😁" "solution". No, no it does not. People spent way too much on that edition of your game to be promised a canvas bag as part of the deal only for you to give them a fucking hefty bag instead. But I guess it's apropos since your game is garbage.
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The bag is flagrant false advertisement
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