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Old 11-18-2023, 01:42 PM   #15281
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Old 11-18-2023, 02:11 PM   #15282
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They really debuted Ronda Rousey at a ROH taping??? Wow, just wow lol. I cannot even think of a good comparison to a similar waste.
Christian returning to WWE…in the ECW brand?
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Old 11-18-2023, 04:32 PM   #15283
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Christian returning to WWE…in the ECW brand?
Yeah that was kind of weird. Still though, while Christian is far more liked and respected in the wrestling world, Ronda is "famous" famous. Showing up on some random web series that maybe 15,000 people watch is something else lol.
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Old 11-18-2023, 05:09 PM   #15284
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Yeah, the fame level of Ronda is really where the appeal is. I guess they’re trying to use her to make ROH a thing, but if people scoff then what is she really?

I guess she will be the one who shows up at Full Gear. How the crowd responds to her is going to be interesting. Will they pretend she’s the greatest thing ever?

I wonder if Britt Baker will try to bully her?
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I have genuinely enjoyed some of Ronda’s work, but if she’s able to do what she wants, and what she wants are matches involving Marina Shafir…

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Old 11-18-2023, 06:21 PM   #15287
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They really debuted Ronda Rousey at a ROH taping??? Wow, just wow lol. I cannot even think of a good comparison to a similar waste.
Bret Hart, freshly off the back of one of the biggest moments in wrestling history. The most talked about man in the business at that stage, debuting as a ref for Bischoff/Zbyszko.

And Bischoff, to this day, gets so angry when you accuse him or any role in WCW’s failure. Khan is like Bischoff if he just skipped the genius part and went to the overpaying chaos section of his career.
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Old 11-18-2023, 07:01 PM   #15288
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Feel like ron the rousey's stock dropped a whole lot with the more hardcore rassling fans/IWC... and since that is what AEW markets to, perhaps it was her idea to debut on ROH and try to build her stock up as this "hard worker" who is going to indies and ROH, etc.... before trying to hang in front of an even more "markish" crowd of AEW
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Old 11-19-2023, 06:29 AM   #15289
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I have genuinely enjoyed some of Ronda’s work, but if she’s able to do what she wants, and what she wants are matches involving Marina Shafir…

This could be hilariously bad.
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Old 11-19-2023, 06:34 AM   #15290
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I don't understand why Ronda has been booked in the way that she has. She should have been female Goldberg. That's now she got over/became main stream. There were debates about her beating Mayweather in a fight.

Everything after her debut match was handled poorly.
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Old 11-19-2023, 01:50 PM   #15291
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So allegedly, Danhausen has been selling bootleg merchandisehausen. Which is really weirdhausen, as the allegations only seemed to show uphausen because Danhausen is good friends with Pepsi Phil.
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Old 11-19-2023, 03:01 PM   #15292
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I don't understand why Ronda has been booked in the way that she has. She should have been female Goldberg. That's now she got over/became main stream. There were debates about her beating Mayweather in a fight.

Everything after her debut match was handled poorly.
Anyone who actually discussed Ronda beating Mayweather is an absolute moron and should never be listened to about anything ever.
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Old 11-19-2023, 04:15 PM   #15293
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Bret Hart, freshly off the back of one of the biggest moments in wrestling history. The most talked about man in the business at that stage, debuting as a ref for Bischoff/Zbyszko.

And Bischoff, to this day, gets so angry when you accuse him or any role in WCW’s failure. Khan is like Bischoff if he just skipped the genius part and went to the overpaying chaos section of his career.
Being handed Bret Hart and doing what they did is a hilarious example.

Tony Khan might be about to get Brian Pillman’d too, which will be amazing.
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Old 11-20-2023, 10:25 AM   #15294
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Im now wondering why Ronda left WWE.
Ego.
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Old 11-20-2023, 03:30 PM   #15295
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The Young Bucks are taking some time away from wrestling. They’ve asked for privacy during this time. You usually attach a reason to do that to avoid unnecessary check-ins. Leading with it kind of provokes more questions.
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Old 11-20-2023, 03:34 PM   #15296
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It was literally Brandon Cutler posting it and framing it as "sources close to" even though it's obviously just him. He posted a similar message on them being done with BTE as well.

Pretty sure this is tied to the "temper tantrum" they had after their loss on Saturday. Given how rarely they've wrestled on TV this year my guess is they've negotiated less dates in this new deal so they can get more family time. Also maybe they saw The Hardys hobbling through their matches and realized scaling back might be a good thing.
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Old 11-20-2023, 03:40 PM   #15297
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Per Haus of Wrestling, WWE are under the belief that MJF's off the table and has quietly re-signed and committed to AEW into 2027.

MJF since he's been face, his post-show promos he always talks of AEW and himself in the long-term but does always throw in that qualifier of "I don't know what will happen in the bidding war of 2024, but...". After his match with Omega he said he thought it was the most talented locker room on the planet and that was going to weigh heavily on his decision.

And then, at Saturday's scrum he didn't even bring up the bidding war at all, instead he flat out said he plans on staying with AEW "as long as Tony pays up".
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Old 11-20-2023, 03:44 PM   #15298
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There were whispers after his summer 2022 "hiatus" that he'd quietly inked a new deal and that the bidding war of 2024 thing was just gonna be an angle they built up to once he became the heel champ.

But even if he didn't sign back then I probably would guess he signed sometime this summer, pretty much right as his face turn was being solidified. To me that's when it shifted from "OK, let's get our money's worth out of him as a top heel champ while we can" to "OK, let's turn him face and make him the main focus of the show with no real signs of slowing down"

Just feels like he wouldn't have gotten this much without the long-term commitment in-hand, but guess we'll see.

If he has signed I imagine he'll cut a promo after the World's End main event and announce in front of Long Island that he's sticking around.
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It was literally Brandon Cutler posting it and framing it as "sources close to" even though it's obviously just him. He posted a similar message on them being done with BTE as well.

Pretty sure this is tied to the "temper tantrum" they had after their loss on Saturday. Given how rarely they've wrestled on TV this year my guess is they've negotiated less dates in this new deal so they can get more family time. Also maybe they saw The Hardys hobbling through their matches and realized scaling back might be a good thing.
Could also be that they've wrapped the last of BTE.

Could also be a running gag of Snoop Dogg saying the exact same thing about smoking late last week, same words and all. Just substitute "wrestling" for "smoke".
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If AEW had re-signed AEW, we’d know. Other promotions wouldn’t be able to talk to him. Right now it sounds like speculation he’s re-signed because it would be fucking stupid to have not.
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Old 11-20-2023, 05:15 PM   #15301
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I think I’ll officially lose interest in him if he stays with AEW. Okay, so you want to put a ceiling on yourself, dude? Cool.
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The Young Bucks are having a tantrum, knowing they’ll get paid to sit at home.
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Old 11-20-2023, 05:37 PM   #15303
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I think MJF played it perfect, he pretended he was gonna leave, Tiny didn't want to lose his friend, so he got his daddy to give Max more money. MJF basically got a monster raise by saying he was getting sleepy and was going to go home.
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If he got more money. He could have worked Tony by making him feel in control/part of the work by bringing him back without raising his pay. Make Tony think he’s in control of the situation.

It’s going to suck so bad if MJF stays with AEW. So fucking boring lol.
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Hausman is reporting that people within the WWE are under the impression he’s signed a new deal. That’s disheartening. But why would anyone on the inside spoil it? Wouldn’t other promotions (like, literally all of them) be aware that MJF can’t talk to them because he’s under contract? Why would they protect this angle?

I’m so hoping he’s strung Tony along right to the end then just fucking jumps. He just loses to Joe at Worlds End, gets up, soaks in the cheers then shows up on Raw lol.
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AEW got caught using bots to boost engagement. Which wouldn’t be a big deal in and of itself, but it’s just funny Tony cried and accused WWE of doing it.
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Anyone with a huge amount of followers on any social media are subjected to bots. Some of them know it, others are ignorant to it. You can buy followers for pennies on the dollar. Other accounts are just bots that will auto-follow any account.

This is unavoidable for anyone, ever.

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Lol, I just read that AEW is creating a new Continental Champion…then unifying it on the same night it is created. Holy. Fuck.
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Shouldn’t the winner of the Continental Classic just get a title shot? Bryan Danielson wins, gets a trophy. MJF, if he’s still around, now has to defend the belt against the guy he cracked in the skull with an oxygen tank or whatever.

Danielson defeats MJF as a little bit of poetry. That way you can always say the tournament worked for getting a guy to the World Title. Danielson spends the year defending the World Title and then talks about relinquishing it when his deal is up, ala Max. They do another match in Arthur Ashe where MJF wins the belt back. Danielson enters the Continental Classic and is maybe the runner-up.
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If you want to send a champion over to New Japan, isn’t that what the International Championship is for?
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Oh, they want Danielson? Right, send him over as World Champion or just have him win the International Title. He’s an idea, he beats Mox in the tournament final for the Continental Cup and the AEW International Title. Danielson goes over and drops the International Title to Okada.

When Danielson beats MJF for the World Title, Okada is now a guy who can challenge MJF at Forbidden Door, because he beat Danielson and it can all be part of MJF’s journey. Okada can beat MJF to retain the International Title.

You can bring that back for WrestleDream. MJF defends the World Title against International Champion, Okada. MJF can win that one. That’s half the year’s booking done right there. This doesn’t even factor in the TNT Title. You have Edge win that. He turns heel with Christian for the retirement match. Darby smacks Edge with the skateboard as he defends against the Face of the Revolution Ladder Match (Mustafa Ali?). Edge and Darby feud. Edge puts over Darby at Double or Nothing.

You can probably run Omega vs. Okada at Double or Nothing. Do MJF vs. Wardlow there, since you’ve got the history.

Mustafa Ali lasts a little while as TNT Champion. When MJF beats Danielson for the belt, you can tie Danielson into things because he wants to be AEW Grand Slam Champion. He’ll need to win the Tag Team Titles too, which he can either do with Edge or against Edge. At some point, Edge & Christian have to win the tag belts right? They should do that from FTR. So it’d make sense to have them win the belts at some point. You’ve got to play to Kenny & Jericho a little bit, so they get the belts until around Revolution. Or Don Callis’ boys can get them — maybe Hobbs & Guevara so Jericho can claim to make stars.

You bring in Will Ospreay maybe as Don Callis’ new guy. He can be the reason for the title change and start something with Jericho or go straight for the World Title.
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I love wrestling — the history of it, the business of it, classic stuff. I’m just not into the current direction all too much.
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First Continental Classic Winner, Bryan Danielson. He wins the AEW World Title at Revolution. Wrestles Will Ospreay in the main event at Wembley. They go to a draw. The crowd is itchy for more, but Danielson turns heel by walking out. Ospreay starts a 1-year campaign for the World Title to culminate at Wembley Stadium in 2025.

That campaign sees him become the 2nd Continental Classic Winner, knocking back former champ, previous winner and the man he didn’t beat at Wembley. Instead of using his title shot for a match against MJF at Revolution, he’s putting off his title shot until All In that year.

Year 3 is where the MJF/Adam Cole stuff finally comes to an end. MJF wins the block against Cole, goes on to lose to whoever wins the other side when Cole throws in the towel. 2026 kicks off with Adam Cole and MJF at each other’s throats and whoever wins the Continental Classic to go for the World Title — which they probably win, so now you can talk about all 3 winners cashing in successfully.
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Anyone with a huge amount of followers on any social media are subjected to bots. Some of them know it, others are ignorant to it. You can buy followers for pennies on the dollar. Other accounts are just bots that will auto-follow any account.

This is unavoidable for anyone, ever.

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Even accounts with a small number of followers (like mine) are subjected to bots. It's just part of the thing.
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So if it's true that MJF has resigned through 2027, when they start pushing the "bidding war of 2024" again in a couple months WWE should just come out and say "We aren't bidding on him, he's under contract for 3 more years, this is nonsense" and ruin it just out of spite. Like when them and WCW used to try to spoil each other kinda.
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