08-08-2021, 11:02 PM | #361 |
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The sick fucks at WWE tried to keep the trademark for Chelsea Green's real name after they released her, but then she tweeted about it and WWE started getting internet backlash, so they now are going to back off and let her have the trademark to her real birth name, according to Fightful
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08-08-2021, 11:17 PM | #362 | |
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08-08-2021, 11:22 PM | #363 |
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08-08-2021, 11:25 PM | #364 |
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idk if it's true but there were rumors that Keith Lee got "heat" with WWE because he was battling them over the trademark of his real name also
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08-08-2021, 11:31 PM | #365 |
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I once read that over the last decade Vince changed his mind to see if talent can 'sink or swim' and that's why anytime other people tell him "hey you gotta check out ______ from NXT" if he decides to give them a main roster call-up he intentionally removes some parts of their gimmick that got over in NXT to see if they can 'sink or swim' without what made them a hit.
In theory, that sounds like a good test but if you apply it to wrestlers past it would have hindered so many from getting over. It's sort of the opposite of the Paul Heyman mentality of 'highlight the strengths, hide the weaknesses'. |
08-08-2021, 11:39 PM | #366 |
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It's incredibly difficult to trademark a legal name for a person that has any kind of past activities doing something similar. This is because federal (and individual state) trademark protections apply only to using the trademarked name with each particular set of goods or services, (i.e., athletic performances, theatrical performances, clothing/apparel, film/tv appearances, etc.) If a wrestler is using their name in multiple, or one or more, states, for one or more goods or services, it's incredibly unlikely that a federal USPTO trademark application will be approved for those same goods/services, especially if they're no longer employed or affiliated with the applying entity, in this case WWE.
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08-08-2021, 11:59 PM | #367 |
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08-09-2021, 12:07 AM | #368 |
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08-09-2021, 12:20 AM | #369 | |
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08-09-2021, 12:23 AM | #370 |
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This is something I mentioned somewhere else, and I stand by this:
Cameron Grimes (aka Steampunk Jimmy Garvin) will have a better main roster career than Karrion Kross. Because there aren't any expectations for him to be some huge star and he's a goofy midcard act that can get over without being too big for its britches. Also, L.A. Knight will probably get over on the Main Roster as well, for different reasons. Or, failing that, he'll start teaching promo classes. |
08-09-2021, 12:54 AM | #371 |
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08-09-2021, 12:56 AM | #372 | |
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08-09-2021, 01:33 AM | #373 | |
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08-09-2021, 06:36 AM | #374 |
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So is HBK generally not liked as a backstage creative person?
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08-09-2021, 08:23 AM | #375 |
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When he was announced as joining the PC/NXT staff I think many thought he'd reel in some of the PWG 2010 style into better storytelling, instead he's intensified it. I think some wrestlers love that and some are not fans.
I kind of view it as 'what if every match on a show was a Young Bucks match', which is not my thing. |
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Just shut down all of NXT at this point, lol. Stupid. People whining about "big guys who look like they can really beat people up" in a fake fucking combat sport are whatever, lol. Except for guys who are super tiny like Adam Cole, I get that. Quote:
Adam Cole is going to die on the main roster. He will look like WWE's Marko Stunt against the likes of nearly anyone. Rey Mysterio is WWE's Paul Titan compared to Cole. Speaking of, Paul Titan to AEW please. Right god damn now. That dude "goes hard in the gym". Quote:
Good lord is NXT years past an amazing watch. Nearly any Takeover from a few years back is a great watch. Nakamura and Zayn immediately come to mind. Shit, really any NXT Nakamura is gold. Also https://twitter.com/i/status/1424390788667019272 |
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08-09-2021, 11:34 AM | #377 |
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Yeah, without his written authorization, it's very unlikely they'd be able to successfully register the trademark of his own name with the USPTO for any of the classes of goods/services (clothing, merch, live entertainment performances, media appearances and performances, etc.) especially if he'd been using his own name prior in selling/marketing/performing for any of those same classes of goods/services.
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08-09-2021, 01:52 PM | #378 |
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08-09-2021, 01:55 PM | #379 | |
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08-09-2021, 02:12 PM | #380 |
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Probably assumed he'd agree to let them take over ownership of the trademark, at least while he's under contract with them. It's pretty common to assign that right over, during the term of an agreement at least, but it's not always the smart thing to do and if the talent has any leverage they should try to avoid doing so.
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08-09-2021, 02:38 PM | #381 |
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08-09-2021, 03:09 PM | #382 | |
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But a lot of people came in with names they already had established. |
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08-09-2021, 03:12 PM | #383 | |
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08-10-2021, 12:24 AM | #384 |
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Parrow's post made me at first like "How would he know?"
Then I remembered, and was like... "Ok... that makes sense." |
08-10-2021, 02:34 AM | #385 |
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Soooo Bray Wyatt still with WWE?
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08-10-2021, 06:40 AM | #386 | |
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Then, they'll do shit like have a guy the size of Braun Strowman and try to make him work like he's Ricochet. Or not realize the reason why there was so much groaning and eye rolling at the rehire of Eva Marie was because nearly every match she had, she nearly Droz'd her opponent, herself, or both, but she was getting fast tracked to rule the Divas Division because she's "pretty" and was a bitch on an auxillary reality show that most wrestling fans weren't watching and that was supposed to be a 1:1 translation on her being the hottest female heel WWE had ever seen. It didn't. Instead of looking at the issue of start-stop pushes and not properly building or presenting guys (colloquial - men and women) in ways that will eventually work them up the card, they do shit like bank all their money on a handful of talent (look how long it took for them to finally get Roman in the position they wanted him in from day one) and let everyone else languish. They script bullshit and write dumbass tripe angles and sometimes try super hard with the shittiest gimmicks possible neverminding what it might do detrimentally to th folks on the roster saddled with this shit. They panic and call people back who were over 10 years plus ago; often at the detriment of people they could be focusing on now. And if anyone outside of their pet projects fail, it's their own fault for not being backed by the machine that quite honestly likely promised them the moon and then cuts them a month later. But no... they failed because they're not 6'6 and 285lbs of weightlifter muscle. If only they willed themselves to grow taller, they might make it in the business. There was more to this, but I don't have time to write it now, and I know I'm going to lose the tangent I was on if I try to come back to it later. Point is, there's too much stock put into this "midgets" mentality or the "needs to look like a star walking through the airport"... and by "star" they actually mean giant and jacked up. If the machine got behind some of these folks like they got behind others, there's no way the world wouldn't know who Shinsuke Nakamura was at this point if they treated him more like a guy who has the intangible charisma he has and less like generic foreign guy #582. There are plenty of others who could have been or currently be stars if the company would allow them to be stars instead of stunting them because THEY don't believe they are stars. |
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08-10-2021, 07:32 AM | #387 |
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If they want to push the big scary looking guys that’s fine, but I’ve not seen much evidence they know how to do that.
Lashley - had to leave the company and rebuild his image, came back and got put in two all time shitty feuds with Sami and Rusev Drew - had to leave the company and rebuild his image Sheamus - has had his ups and downs, the one time they pushed him as top guy they made him a bland smiling babyface who said Fella a lot Priest - treading water feuding with Miz and Morrison Viking Raiders - the Viking Experience Keith Lee - ugh Mace and T-Bar - LOL Omos - extremely limited, just kinda stands there Titus - theyve tried but nothing has worked, basically a big lovable dork who does charity work Big E - seemed happy being part of an all time great faction, we’ll see how this one plays out Corbin - made the most unwatchable character in wrestling and used as the scapegoat for bad ratings Azeez - just kinda stands there Roman - seems like they finally got it right but man did it take a long time to get there And that’s just guys currently active on the main roster. Not a lot of home runs there. But I’m sure bringing in a bunch of brand new big guys with no experience will solve the problems. |
08-10-2021, 07:47 AM | #388 |
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They had a big hit with Rusev with his US Championship run, then they yanked the rug out of from under him, split him and Lana up, and put Rusev in the League of Nations. Then Rusev got himself over again and WWE yanked the rug out again.
Braun Strowman was the hottest thing in wrestling during his “I’m not finished with you!” feud with Roman, then WWE yanked the rug out from under him and completely nerfed him for a quick Shield reunion. I don’t know how fresh new talent is going to solve that. |
08-10-2021, 08:02 AM | #389 |
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Supreme and Tom with the hard-hitting facts and historical info to back it up.
Still sad for Shinsuke and what he is today. Gonna go watch old NXT to feel better. |
08-10-2021, 08:03 AM | #390 |
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One may say "vintage" NXT even
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08-10-2021, 09:39 AM | #391 |
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It may not be for everyone, but I'm enjoying the shit outta Nakamura with Rick Boogs shredding guitar behind him.
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08-10-2021, 10:11 AM | #392 | |
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08-10-2021, 10:22 AM | #393 |
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Yeah they probably should bring him back. You shouldn't be that big and ripped and talented and not work for WWE. He'd also be awesome as a monster in NJPW.
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08-10-2021, 11:09 AM | #394 |
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Has Cass gotten better on the indies or something? I remember him being really awkward and boring in the ring. Doesn’t seem like the New Japan type
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08-10-2021, 11:23 AM | #395 |
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08-10-2021, 11:57 AM | #396 |
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08-10-2021, 12:17 PM | #397 |
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Love Chase. My boy.
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08-10-2021, 12:54 PM | #398 |
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Good for you. I'm not saying he isn't worthy of love, just that he's rather unspectacular in multiple ways. So if a guy like Chase or Fale can become "New Japan" guys, there is no argument that anyone that has worked for WWE, especially that went through the FCW or Performance Center development can't adapt to become "New Japan guys". I mean really what does it take? Wrestle harder? More germans, more lariats trade strikes and chops and yell like an anime character? It's not that much different.
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08-10-2021, 02:24 PM | #399 |
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Take it easy.
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08-10-2021, 02:49 PM | #400 | |
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Cass has the look but seems to move around like a fragile old man. |
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