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Old 08-22-2018, 01:46 AM   #1
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Can we talk about Tom Cruise?

Scientology crap aside. I think he's the greatest actor of all time. I'm willing to go deep in his filmography. This guy might be Xenu himself. I dont know.


It dont matter who did what to who at this point. The fact is, we went to war. And now there aint no going back. It's what war is you know? Once you're in it, you're in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie, but we gotta fight!
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Old 08-22-2018, 01:48 AM   #2
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I just watched Edge of Tomorrow and I didnt expect much and what i got was a fucking amazing movie. I hate myself for not supporting it at the theaters.
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Old 08-22-2018, 01:51 AM   #3
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The stories of this dude doing his own stunts btw. Especially the videos of the latest MI movie. Which was amazing and I saw it at IMAX and was blown away. It was so fucking good. Better than any action movie i've ever seen.
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Old 08-22-2018, 01:56 AM   #4
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I'm talking in my own thread here like usual, but one more thing. Aside from a John Wick 3, or maybe a Denzel Washington movie. There is no other actor that brings me to the theater like Cruise.

If being entertained is the goal. Tom Cruise goes all out on every movie to entertain people. It's really amazing. I even loved the first Jack Reacher movie. 2nd one was ok. The guy goes hard and I cherish all his movies I dont care about the Scientology bullshit. If that is his deal then so be it. I dont care. His output of great movies is amazing.
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Old 08-22-2018, 02:08 AM   #5
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It's not the "Scientology crap" that bothers me, it's the height thing. Ever since I have been made aware of his whole thing about being sensitive about his height, I've noticed a lot of forced perspectives and low angle camerawork over the years.

He is a damn good actor. I wouldn't say GOAT, but certainly up there. If for nothing else, Tropic Thunder.
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It's not the "Scientology crap" that bothers me, it's the height thing. Ever since I have been made aware of his whole thing about being sensitive about his height, I've noticed a lot of forced perspectives and low angle camerawork over the years.

He is a damn good actor. I wouldn't say GOAT, but certainly up there. If for nothing else, Tropic Thunder.
There are so many actors that are known to be short. Tom Hardy comes to mind. I think Brad Pitt might be pretty short too. It's not some big secret. He might have an issue with it, but no one has put out hits like him.

I'll admit I have not seen The Mummy and i've heard bad things lol
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I dont think about height tbh. I love Cruise and i really love Tom Hardy. Both are my favorite actors. I watch whatever they do.
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There are so many actors that are known to be short. Tom Hardy comes to mind. I think Brad Pitt might be pretty short too. It's not some big secret. He might have an issue with it, but no one has put out hits like him.

I'll admit I have not seen The Mummy and i've heard bad things lol
It isn't that he is short in and of itself. It is that it bothers him so much that camerawork and staging has to reflect him being taller or fuck you he ain't doing it. Who cares? You're an actor and one of the most recognizable men in the entire world... who gives a fuck some chick has a couple inches on you if she wears heels so she can't wear heels around you?

I didn't see a real problem with The Mummy, especially with what it was trying to accomplish. Problem is, it won't accomplish those things as the entire concept has been scrapped. Kinda happens when you not only presume sequels, but was just trying to ride the dick of the MCU and try to make similar money.
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Tom is a great actor and I like Tom

He had a decade long "act crazy in the media" phase but thankfully it has passed.
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I wasn't a fan until very recently. I actually think it may have been Edge Of Tomorrow that made me take a closer look into his filmography. I went back and watched Cocktail, Rain Man, Jerry Maguire, Magnolia, Vanilla Sky, Minority Report, Last Samurai, War Of The Worlds, Valkyrie, all the Mission Impossible movies and both Jack Reachers. I liked Minority Report, Magnolia and Last Samurai the most because he mixes up and fits into old Hollywood and New with his roles. A film like Last Samurai would be particularly well received in the 50-60's age of epics and Minority Report is ultimately timeless. Magnolia is it's own animal and it's an animal with the face of Tom Cruise.

So yeah, Tom Cruise is great.

Scientology isn't my bag but fuck anyone that slags someone off for an honest belief.
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From about 2005 until perhaps 2010, I did not touch any of his films, as he was going a bit full on with the scientology crap and jumping on Oprah's couch, but in general I have always enjoyed his films.

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Never was a huge fan and only have seen a handful of his "classic" movies, not much of his recent stuff. Lots of respect for sticking around forever, but he's not for me. I want my action heroes to look like they could kick ass a la The Rock, Jason Statham, Marky Mark, etc.
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I just watched Edge of Tomorrow and I didnt expect much and what i got was a fucking amazing movie. I hate myself for not supporting it at the theaters.
Great film. He's done a lot of good to great films. Also recently a lot of shitty films too.

He always plays close to the same character however.
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Never was a huge fan and only have seen a handful of his "classic" movies, not much of his recent stuff. Lots of respect for sticking around forever, but he's not for me. I want my action heroes to look like they could kick ass a la The Rock, Jason Statham, Marky Mark, etc.
Jason Statham is a way better actor than his choice of films would suggest, although he basically plays the same character every time too.
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Jack Reacher grew on me very quickly. As a die hard fan of the books I was dead against it but the first Jack Reacher is an excellent action film and it's fucking funny.
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There are about twenty books. They should do Persuader next.
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God, Rain Man was fantastic.

On that note, Tom Cruise's early stuff when he hit the scene (A Few Good Men, Days of Thunder, Rain Man, The Firm, The Color of Money etc.) is his best work. I'd wish he'd go back to making films like that.

For about 10 years now, we've gotten Action Man Tom Cruise. 3-4 Mission Impossibles, The Mummy remake remake, Jack Reacher. I've avoided them all for the most part.

Batshit craziness and Scientology aside, he's great. But, I know he can do better films and get back in the Oscar conversation.
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Really want to see The Last Samurai again...... pretty much since I saw it for the first time and loved it, and then subsequently always wanted to buy the DVD, but then never did, and haven't seen it since.
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I remember absolutely loving The Last Samurai when I saw it...... and I kept meaning to buy the DVD to watch whenever..... and I think I almost did a few times....... but then for whatever reason I never actually did, and I don't think I have seen it since that first time that I watched it. Which is really weird considering how much I loved it at the time.

There is one full year and almost exactly six months between these posts.

Just watch the fucking movie again mate. It's top class.
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I think you can get it on ebay.
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I like some of his movies and dislike others. To me, he's pretty much doing the same thing in every film. Running, fighting, shouting, explosions in the background, more running and occasionally hiding and sweating a lot.

Popcorn movies. I don't take them too seriously so it doesn't really bother me. Wouldn't consider him one of the greatest though. While his body of work might justify such a claim, a lot of those films have been fairly subpar.
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Is it weird that this line made me think of a Sphinx specifically?
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I've not watched Magnolia tbh. I might soon.
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Nothing to do with Cruise. Wasnt Cameron Diaz involved in that movie? She's terrible.
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He seems like a cool guy to be around (unless he tries to recruit you to scinetology I guess) and the fact he does his own stunts is amazing. His film choices might not always be the best, but I like him.
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Is it weird that this line made me think of a Sphinx specifically?

I imagine they have knocked up a life size sculpture exactly like that for when he dies and whoever's running it want to use him as a saint-like figure.
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