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Old 11-21-2019, 11:38 PM   #281
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I think people (mainly Jim Ross) has pushed this narrative of Bill Watts statement "only being about not being allowed to not serve blacks in a restaurant he owns" and how it was misunderstood, but when you read the transcript it's WAY worse than that. Plus, it wasn't known then but Wade Keller is gay.
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Old 11-21-2019, 11:45 PM   #282
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Eh, I've heard worse round the dinner table at Christmas.
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Old 11-22-2019, 05:38 PM   #283
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According to the Observer Newsletter, seems another reason for Cornette's resignation was the issue of him making an inappropriate comment wasn't the first time it happened on the show.

All the other instances were taken care of beforehand in editing and the line that got him in trouble managed to slip through.

Also seems NWA management was already souring on him due to his anti-AEW comments on his podcast show since they felt it was hurting Powerrr's cross-over appeal with AEW Dark viewers.

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According to one person very close to the situation, Lagana held himself accountable for his mistake in not editing the line out. This was blamed on simply exhaustion. But it was also noted that there have been other lines said on the NWA shows that Lagana has edited out that would also qualify as poor taste stuff. The real issue as far as the NWA was concerned was that Cornette refused to apologize.

It was also noted that there were those there who weren’t happy that he had become so anti-AEW on his podcast which, as their announcer, was something that led to negativity from some toward their product. The reality is that the NWA Powerrr audience on YouTube had very significant crossover with that of AEW Dark, so they have similar fan bases. Even if they didn’t, while a voice of one promotion can criticize the other, it needs to be reasoned and Cornette’s way over-the-top criticisms of AEW were not a good look for the NWA. The only reason he could get away with it up to this point is because everyone recognized how talented he was at his job.
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Old 11-22-2019, 05:38 PM   #284
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Cornette shouldn’t have made the joke. It’s obvious why people don’t like it. Without listening to the Experience yet, you can tell that his main “political focus” in the joke is on the issue of starving people. He’s the sort of guy that would look at an issue like that, the macro causes of it, and then make a resigned joke about it. Like “fuck the world powers for letting those poor people go hungry.” He doesn’t hate them because they’re black. But it wasn’t a very calculated comment.

I feel really bad for Mark Henry and I hope Cornette has reached out personally. But I am kind of annoyed at people focusing on the race aspect.
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Old 11-22-2019, 08:17 PM   #285
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What's the deal with Mark Henry?
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Old 11-22-2019, 08:32 PM   #286
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Cornette jumps straight into this on The Experience.
It's a 30 year old famine joke he coined or possibly stole for Big Bubba Rogers.

So as expected it's nothing more than a crass joke about a situation that still hasn't really improved because people don't care 365 days a year until Live Aid is resurrected once a decade or whatever it is.
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Old 11-22-2019, 08:34 PM   #287
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Brian Last just sounds scared.

Corny compares it to the Starvin Marvin episode of South Park...

I'll say this, I cannot name another celebrity that would dig their heels in quite as firmly as this.
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Old 11-22-2019, 08:53 PM   #288
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Hmmm.

So an apology for anyone that found it to be outdated and of poor quality, but not for anyone who considers it racist towards black people.

Brian Last points out that actual Ethiopians may well be offended which is a salient point.

Basically "Sorry, not sorry."

Cornette angrily mentions how "hilarious" famine is. That level of sarcasm could be lost in translation...
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Old 11-22-2019, 09:03 PM   #289
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He sees it as a rod for his detractors to break his back with so he won't kowtow to their demands for a big apology, not that any of them would forgive him anyway.

I hope Vice will keep using him for DSOTR.
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Pretty much what I expected.
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To be fair he did acknowledge that some people may be genuinely offended by it and he apologised to them too.
He's very specifically not apologising to his ideological enemies, those that he believes are waiting in the wings for these kinds of slip up so they can tear him down for hating modern wrestling.

The Coen Brothers need a character like Cornette in one of their films. Some paranoid throwback but then it turns out he's onto something.
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Old 11-22-2019, 10:01 PM   #292
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I hope Vice will keep using him for DSOTR.
If there is one area where Cornette still has a ton of value to wrestling, its as a historian especially for the territories era.

The 10 Pounds of Gold documentary with him talking about the history of the NWA title and his appearances on Vice's wrestling show were great examples of it.

Its once you start getting into the 90s that his views start to become outdated and his stubbornness to adapt kicks in the more you go towards the present. That same stubbornness is also why his comments while they might have been ok in the 80s, don't hold up in the present and not just because of PC reasons.
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Old 11-26-2019, 08:36 AM   #293
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I have lost interest in the show due to the Jim Cornette deal turning me off a bit. I am no longer planning on buying the PPV, I bought MLW Opera Cup tickets instead. I will likely catch up tonight with what I have missed and see how it goes. Just kinda turned off to Corgan and Lagana after all of this too.
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lets see how they dub cornetts voice tonight, see if they cut out his 40 year old jokes.
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wow no matches tonight I think they cut cornett out
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They had a match. When I tuned in they had an empty arena match on with Question Mark.
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What's the deal with Mark Henry?
He just seemed really bummed out by it, like a personal friend betrayed him (because Corny has done lots for him).

Eh, I think Cornette handled it as best he could. Shit joke because of the aim, but Cornette isn't exactly the most progressive with his comedy. He tries to be politically, but he likes the immature shit that thinks offense is taken not given and proud to be "edgy." But apologizing for people it genuinely hurt makes sense, given that if you do care about people's feelings in the context of race or world issues, then you should apologize for hurting them. But I do see his point about wrestlers and wrestling personalities kind of hijacking the content in order to disqualify Cornette's opinions on their wrestling. Even if the guy was a racism (which he's obviously actively not), then his opinion about your wrestling might still be perfectly valid.
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They had a match. When I tuned in they had an empty arena match on with Question Mark.
sounds like for the next 2 weeks they will reshoot matches
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sounds like for the next 2 weeks they will reshoot matches
Wouldn't have been easier to just dub over commentary?
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Damn, I Hope Mark Henry is ok
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Wouldn't have been easier to just dub over commentary?
yeah that's what I thought but they dumped what they taped just to cut cornett out
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uh oh james storm is going to trust a hebner as a ref not to screw him. looks like storm will get screwed at the ppv.
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Cool that they gave a little send-off for Cornette at the end of the show. People on Twitter no doubt losing their shit over it.
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NWA ring announcer is horrible... Never seen anyone such low energy, who zaps so much excitement from the match...
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