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Old 04-07-2019, 10:50 PM   #1
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HEY GERTNER YOU DELUSIONAL PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT YOU ARE NOT GOD YOU ARE A BLASPHEMOUS PIECE OF SHIT AND YOU ARE GOING TO HELL FOR VIOLATING THE FIRST COMMANDMENT! EITHER THAT OR YOU HAVE A SERIOUS DRUG PROBLEM AND NEED COUNSELING AND REHAB IMMEDIATELY!

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Old 04-08-2019, 01:09 AM   #3
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Which belt do you consider to be the most aesthetically pleasing of all-time? And do you think the appearance of belts matters?
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Old 04-08-2019, 08:18 AM   #5
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I've always loved the old AWA World Title.



People like to complain about the look of the belts nowadays but it really doesn't sell any more or less tickets.
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Looking back, has Zack Rider had a good career? What's next for these new tag champs?
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Who's your fav vanilla midget?
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Old 04-08-2019, 12:00 PM   #8
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Looking back, has Zack Rider had a good career? What's next for these new tag champs?
Hawkins just killed his gimmick. They'll become the B Team in a month.

Ryder has definitely had a good career. He's over-achived in my eyes.
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I'm going to fill this thing up with every question that pops into my head while I watch WWE Network.

1. How long do you think Jim Hellwig would have lasted as Vader?

2. Is it just me or does Jim Ross outright ignore Jesse Ventura and Mike Schiavone whenever they go too far with the exposition? I like to imagine he's pinching their legs.
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That's tough cause I genuinely don't like guys like Benoit, Malenko etc...

Probably Malenko if I had to pick.
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Old 04-08-2019, 12:28 PM   #11
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I'm going to fill this thing up with every question that pops into my head while I watch WWE Network.

1. How long do you think Jim Hellwig would have lasted as Vader?

2. Is it just me or does Jim Ross outright ignore Jesse Ventura and Mike Schiavone whenever they go too far with the exposition? I like to imagine he's pinching their legs.

Not long. Hellwig wouldn't have lasted long in WCW and he would have gotten eaten alive in Japan

JR didn't play well off those two. Tony and Jesse were great together. Ross is almost better on his own.
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Outside of Ryback and Matt Morgan, who is the biggest missed opportunity in WWE this century?
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Outside of Ryback and Matt Morgan, who is the biggest missed opportunity in WWE this century?
In terms of guys who actually made the roster, probably Nathan Jones, but that was more Jones than the WWE. Bray Wyatt is the correct answer though. They really ruined him.

You know who I thought the WWE squandered an awesome gimmick was : Mike Knox. That evil biologist gimmick he had was amazing and they did nothing with it
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It looked like it back when he had a personality. Why did he even stop wrestling?
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Jones or Knox?
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I actually meant Percy, lol. Jones didn’t pick it up and Knox just got released. Heyman was apparently a big supporter of Knox. I mean, I don’t trust Prichard, but I don’t know what he gets out of lying about that. I saw flashes with him — I liked the way he kind of worked sneaky for a big man — but I wasn’t enamored or anything.

Really surprised Chris Masters never got a second look by the company, especially when you can work off Wellness suspensions. The guy’s only 36. I thought they would hire him back after he saved his mother from a burning house after lifting out that tree. Didn’t they give a job back o Daivari when he foiled a robbery? And Chuck Palumbo got another shot when his brother did something heroic overseas.

Actually, throw Shad Gaspard into the basket of heroic guys who didn’t get another shot. Well, Cryme Tyme got too. Reading up on Shad’s Wikipedia, it sounds like he has life by the balls, but his attitude to the company’s attitude apparently just didn’t mix. He and JTG both had good charisma, and I thought the company would have had a boner for the guy.
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It looks like after he got released from NXT that Percy completely stopped. Didn't work the indies or anything. I heard he got released because he sulked when he didn't graduate to Smackdown with Titus and Darren after the original NXT ended. He probably just gave up.
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They had him stop doing the gimmick too.
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Worst spot callers in wrestling?

Watching War Games a while back and Sid was visibly calling things on camera the entire time he was in there.

Cactus Jack was also bad for it and I'm sure Rick Steiner was a culprit too.
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Underrated or forgotten wrestling classics?

I saw a Rick Rude/Ricky Steamboat iron-man match that was pretty decent recently. If Ricky had any mic ability or verbal charisma at all he would have had a good WWE career.
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Most over jobbers-mid carders?

I keep seeing supposedly shitty gimmicks but that were clearly over as hell(El Gigante, Norman The Lunatic). I think if you ignore PC culture a lot of these old gimmicks are hilarious.
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When it comes to worst spot-callers, John Cena and Charlotte Flair are the worst modern offenders.
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I don't know much about the new ones. Anything post 2003 is over my head. I will catch up when I hear it's worth it.
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Modern wrestling is shit, but spot-calling is going to be far more prominent there because of technology and wrestlers being...not as tight.
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Worst spot callers in wrestling?

Watching War Games a while back and Sid was visibly calling things on camera the entire time he was in there.

Cactus Jack was also bad for it and I'm sure Rick Steiner was a culprit too.
John Cena hands down. Sid was also notorious
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Underrated or forgotten wrestling classics?

I saw a Rick Rude/Ricky Steamboat iron-man match that was pretty decent recently. If Ricky had any mic ability or verbal charisma at all he would have had a good WWE career.
There's tons of great matches on House Shows that few people have seen. Any of the Savage vs Tito Santana House Show matches in 86 are great. Hogan's MSG title defences in 85 are very under-rated including his 3 match series with Muraco and Savage
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Most over jobbers-mid carders?

I keep seeing supposedly shitty gimmicks but that were clearly over as hell(El Gigante, Norman The Lunatic). I think if you ignore PC culture a lot of these old gimmicks are hilarious.
Iron Mike Sharpe and SD Jones always got a really good reaction in the 80's.

You know who were insanely over for a period:The Oddities. Going back and watching 98 Raws, when they were with ICP they were crazy over.

Jimmy Valiant in the late 80's JCP is probably the best example of a mid card guy being insanely over during his feud with Paul Jones Army.
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Underrated or forgotten wrestling classics?

I saw a Rick Rude/Ricky Steamboat iron-man match that was pretty decent recently. If Ricky had any mic ability or verbal charisma at all he would have had a good WWE career.
Bulldog vs Owen on the March 3 1997 Raw to crown the first European Championship never gets talked about and it's amazing.
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Going to go and watch that match now.
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Mike Knox. That evil biologist gimmick he had was amazing and they did nothing with it
How the fuck did I miss this gimmick??
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It was so good and they did nothing with it
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Reading about that gimmick I was also like "I don't remember that." But straining I think I can remember him giving this weird promos about anatomy in a dark room. Or am I completely making that up?
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Underrated or forgotten wrestling classics?

I saw a Rick Rude/Ricky Steamboat iron-man match that was pretty decent recently. If Ricky had any mic ability or verbal charisma at all he would have had a good WWE career.
Ricky had a fucking amazing WWF career from 85-87. Headlined a lot. He decided to be mr. family man at the wrong time and pissed Vince off.
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He had a much better NWA, WCW career though.
I don't rate the Savage match that highly either.
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The Steamboat vs Muraco matches in late 85 are tremendous.
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Who's the best referee? Watching WCW and at one point Ole Anderson seems to be a relief referee. Slow, quiet counts...

I like Ole, he was a horse and his biography is one of the most entertaining and hateful. Not much of a ref though.
Pretty sure I saw Ronnie Garvin refereeing in early 90's WWE too.

I like the referees that emote like Italians on amphetamine. I like Charles Robinson from the invasion era. He really went for it.
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He had a much better NWA, WCW career though.
I don't rate the Savage match that highly either.
The Savage match is tremendous. Just not the greatest of all time.
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