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Old 12-01-2021, 10:43 PM   #2841
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Wow! This page is just a hot pile of garbage. Grown ass men getting their jollies via being mean spirited douchebags because they weren't loved enough as children. I have no doubt in my mind that creepy Noid still lives in his mother's basement because no other woman would dare associate with him. He probably also has streamers on his bike so he could impress the kids in his neighborhood.
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Old 12-01-2021, 11:09 PM   #2842
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Old 12-01-2021, 11:14 PM   #2843
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Old 12-02-2021, 12:07 AM   #2845
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Umm, who wouldnt want streamers on their bike???
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Old 12-02-2021, 12:51 AM   #2846
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Umm, who wouldnt want streamers on their bike???
I want to say it is indicative of a problematic childhood since he's in his fifties but that's not fair. He's other issues that deserve more attention. Professional help to be blunt. At the very least, he gets his ass eaten on Fridays. So it's not all that bad.
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861,000 viewers for Dynamite lol


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Old 12-02-2021, 05:02 PM   #2848
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My arguments that Daniel Bryan isn’t a draw from 7 years ago are being vindicated.
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Old 12-02-2021, 07:34 PM   #2849
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Dynamite ratings have been slipping since they started doing more "serious" wrestling and Jim Cornette has started liking the show!!! SHould go back to more comedy wrestling imho... AEW was better back then!
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That number is a direct result of Tony Khan's random booking of nobody's versus top guys in WAY too competitive matches. MJF was right mocking it taking Punk SOOOO long to beat a guy with 2 wins in AEW.

They have squandered the major gift that fell into their laps getting Punk, Cole, and Bryan. They have lost almost a third of their Audience since the episode of Dynamite after All Out, which was only 3 months ago.

Can you imagine the backlash WWE would be getting if 3 months from now Smackdown was getting a 1.4 rating? Losing that many viewers in 3 months time is bonkers.
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First thing’s first. Let’s not pretend Adam Cole is, or ever was, on the same level as Punk and Bryan.
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Can you imagine the backlash WWE would be getting if 3 months from now Smackdown was getting a 1.4 rating? Losing that many viewers in 3 months time is bonkers.
This could happen. WWE loses viewers at a pretty alarming rate.
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Old 12-02-2021, 08:23 PM   #2853
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I blame the Matt Hardy vs OC feud for killing off ratings
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Show has been too focused on CM Punk for the past 3 months... Don't need to see him wrestling every person on the roster each week in 15 min matches that only get interesting in the last 2 mins

MJF feud is the first time he has been interesting to me besides his debut
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Old 12-02-2021, 08:30 PM   #2855
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Not enough Sammy Guevara, Ricky Starks on tv IMO
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Old 12-02-2021, 08:31 PM   #2856
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Britt, Thunder Rosa, Jade all interesting but Jade never on tv it seems
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Tony Khan prob will fix things by booking a 20 minutes Luther vs CM Punk match
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This could happen. WWE loses viewers at a pretty alarming rate.
Not saying it couldnt, just that if Smackdown lost a 3rd of their viewers in 3 months it would get a lot more backlash.
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Old 12-03-2021, 11:21 AM   #2860
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I'm definitely over seeing Punk and Bryan work with the green AEW talent. Would much rather see them face off against the mid card guys that have a name.

I do feel they have cheapened the biggest tickets (Punk and Bryan) a bit by having so many exhibition style matches.
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I like that Danielson is just kicking the shit outta guys I’m mostly non competitive matches. Especially because they’re using it right now to get him over as a heel and tell a story.

I don’t know what is up with the ratings. I don’t care, to be honest. But it’s interesting they’re going through a lull considering they’ve been putting on pretty consistently strong shows in that time frame.
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Here are some contributing factors to AEW’s slipping ratings:

* Taking one of the most beloved stars in wrestling and turning him heel for no good reason. People who follow him over because they like him get to see him act like a dick and be a bully. Validates any kayfabe talk he couldn’t cut it in WWE anymore. Bad booking.

* Having your top stars wrestle complete absolute losers competitively, and advertise this as a story. Last week MJF even pointed out Punk struggles with the easiest meals. These are not effective squashes. These are predictable and overexposing matches. You’re basically advertising the lettuce on the burger with this stuff. It’s also helped kill Rampage off. Bad booking.

* Having good stuff on your show can often highlight how utterly crap everything else is. People don’t want to wade through crap. They followed up CM Punk’s debut with Matt Hardy vs. Orange Cassidy. Bad booking.

* The new car smell continues to wear off. AEW made big promises and has barely made a splash. You can only ride being new and not being the dominant product for so long.

They don’t get it. They have never gotten it. They likely never will. This product is not for wrestling fans. Not really. It’s for a certain type of nerd who has such a sadomasochistic relationship with wrestling that they consider someone spitting in a cup providing them a drink. This shit does not functionally work for most people who have either tuned out wrestling for being terrible in the past or just want sincere pro-wrestling.

As I predicted, they got a little bit of a bump from their PPV, but have been riding interest down, down, down week after week by advertising shit people aren’t interested in.
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The excuse last week was Thanksgiving. What’s the excuse this week?
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The excuse last week was Thanksgiving. What’s the excuse this week?
Bryan Danielson is still a heel this week.
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Last year, 1.571 million people were watching wrestling on a Wednesday. 45% of viewers have been run off that night. Last year was Winter is Coming, but this show had Danielson, Punk and a Street Fight advertised.

Interest is not being grown.
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There was no reason to turn Bryan heel THAT quickly, with zero build other than a heel was no longer the world champion. Just because Hangman is the champ instead of Kenny, Bryan suddenly goes out and insults the fans? That is not logical.
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There was no reason to turn Bryan heel THAT quickly, with zero build other than a heel was no longer the world champion. Just because Hangman is the champ instead of Kenny, Bryan suddenly goes out and insults the fans? That is not logical.
Do you really believe that has an impact on the ratings?
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There was no reason to turn Bryan heel THAT quickly, with zero build other than a heel was no longer the world champion. Just because Hangman is the champ instead of Kenny, Bryan suddenly goes out and insults the fans? That is not logical.
And a lot of fans of Daniel Bryan that were into him because of his persona or his underdog wrestling style — and he had a deeper connection than most — are going to be challenged by this cursing bully on the other show. You’re just pissing in the wind.

I guarantee you, there are people who loved Daniel Bryan in the WWE who have sampled AEW and said “Eh, he’s not for me anymore” or some sort of variant. They make their product needlessly arcane.
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Old 12-03-2021, 04:21 PM   #2870
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Imagine being some kid in the Midwest, and Daniel Bryan was your favorite wrestler. You tune into this new promotion that he’s chosen to work for. Now you’ve got to put up with him saying “shit” every two words (Mom doesn’t like hearing that on the TV), him acting disingenuous (you loved his sincerity) and he’s beating up the nerds like you instead of wrestling the actual bullies.

“Meh, maybe I’ve grown out of wrestling.”

They’re tone fucking deaf.
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Old 12-03-2021, 04:21 PM   #2871
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Do you really believe that has an impact on the ratings?
Not specifically no, but it was still an illogical move and that is too common place in wrestling.
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Old 12-03-2021, 04:23 PM   #2872
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Not specifically no, but it was still an illogical move.
I'm not arguing about the logic. It's daft to suggest that Danielson's heel turn has anything to do with the fall in ratings.
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Not specifically no, but it was still an illogical move and that is too common place in wrestling.
It’s another drop in the bucket. And believe it or not, there are still people who sincerely want to enjoy wrestling, and don’t like it dripping in nonsense.

Punk and Danielson got eyeballs. They’ve lost eyeballs since. That either has something to do with the performer or their presentation.
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Old 12-03-2021, 04:36 PM   #2874
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Noid, you creepy old fuck. Nobody cares about your opinion, not even those in your retirement home. You're not the target demo in life anymore. Get over yourself.
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Imagine being some kid in the Midwest, and Daniel Bryan was your favorite wrestler. You tune into this new promotion that he’s chosen to work for. Now you’ve got to put up with him saying “shit” every two words (Mom doesn’t like hearing that on the TV), him acting disingenuous (you loved his sincerity) and he’s beating up the nerds like you instead of wrestling the actual bullies.

“Meh, maybe I’ve grown out of wrestling.”

They’re tone fucking deaf.
Imagine being some fucking complete moron who believes that this is how a kid (or their mom) in the Midwest or anywhere else in the U.S. thinks. You're so fucking stupid and pathetic. If your opinion on what should be on U.S. television or even pro wrestling remotely mattered, you'd actually be working in the industry.
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How many times can you see Steamboat vs. Savage in a night until it gets boring? In a week? In a month?
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How many times can you see Steamboat vs. Savage in a night until it gets boring? In a week? In a month?
outstanding observation. wrestling has always needed to be a variety show to some extent.
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Imagine being some fucking complete moron who believes that this is how a kid (or their mom) in the Midwest or anywhere else in the U.S. thinks. You're so fucking stupid and pathetic. If your opinion on what should be on U.S. television or even pro wrestling remotely mattered, you'd actually be working in the industry.
Lol, they’re not thinking like AEW does. Cry harder about it.
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Stupid AEW not booking Daniel Bryan to be like he was in WWE in order to retain the good Christian boys who loved him there.

But also AEW is just another WWE-lite promotion.
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Stupid AEW not booking Daniel Bryan to be like he was in WWE in order to retain the good Christian boys who loved him there.

But also AEW is just another WWE-lite promotion.
The mental gymnastics
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