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Old 01-08-2016, 01:55 PM   #1
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These Guys From Japan...

As many of you are aware, Japanese wrestling is not my cup of sake.

Does anyone think these guys can get over on the WWE roster? I get their appeal for WWE Network debuting in Japan. I get that the NXT audience would be all over them. But really focused on do people think A) these guys as a group would be recognized if they showed up on an average RAW in the midwest and B) do they have the WWE style charisma to get over.

I tried to watch a video of the one Japanese guy Nakumura or whatever, but I couldn't get through the whole match. I thought maybe he had some promo skills or something that would help put him over the top.

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Nakumura is great. All kinds of charisma and he'll of a in ring taken. Hope they don't tween his in ring work to much if he does come to WWE.

Styles is another great performer and has really taken off since leaving TNA. I think he could come right in to the main roster and have sucess.

Gallows and Anderson are a good tag team and would add good depth to either NXT or WWEs tag divisions.
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Yeah the Japanese guy seemed kinda stiff. Hard to tell with other Japanese guys, but looked taller than I envisioned him.

AJ I know. I think he'll be the 2016 Neville on the main roster. I always thought he was a charisma vacuum.

Seems like logical signings for NXT, but was reading on wrestlinginc.com that some of the bloggers were saying they are headed for WWE, which seems odd.

Another thing, if they get rights to Bullet Club, is that PG enough?
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Nakamura has enough charisma and in ring talent to be a solid upper midcarder, but as long as he can't speak english, that's as far as he'll go, even with a mouthpiece like Heyman.

Dunno how styles will do. He's got tne inring ability, and big name recognition, but he's never been big on charisma or promo skills.

Can see the other two being successful as a tag team under Finn Balor
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Hope they don't buy Bullet Club name from NJPW. To good of a stable to be ruined when they come to WWE. If NJPW is disbanding it for Kenny Omega's The Elite I'd rather the Young Bucks keep it alive in ROH.
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Nakamura works "strong style" - which is why it looks stiff.... it is.
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Old 01-08-2016, 04:16 PM   #11
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Out of all the rumored guys, AJ Styles probably has the best shot of getting over first. Already managed to become very popular with every organization he's been and probably needs the less tweaking out of all the guys to fit in the WWE style.

Anderson and Gallows staying as a tag team would be the best for both. Nakamura might be more like Itami's plans in the sense of being an IC champ or upper midcarder would be a huge deal just because of WWE's past history with Japanese wrestlers.
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They might bring in the group as heels to help HHH. It would lead to a reunion of The Shield. But I just don't know if the group would get over since as far as I know nobody in the group can cut a promo.
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They might bring in the group as heels to help HHH. It would lead to a reunion of The Shield. But I just don't know if the group would get over since as far as I know nobody in the group can cut a promo.
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They might bring in the group as heels to help HHH. It would lead to a reunion of The Shield. But I just don't know if the group would get over since as far as I know nobody in the group can cut a promo.
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Hard to find him speaking much english. i really think putting him with Heyman and allowing him to do his thing with little interference can make him top tier even if he has poor english
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Maybe its one of those "you had to understand the context" type deals, but that seemed like the most generic windy promo I've ever heard.

I'm really curious to see what happens. Just doesn't feel like a main event group to get excited about. Lots of gun pointing (which I am guessing wont be allowed on WWE TV, I saw alot of gimmick infringement as well).

NXT - I think all the hardcore fans will go crazy for it, and it would be a great piece of business to have Balor involved with that could probably sell tickets for NXT throughout 2016.
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Hard to find him speaking much english. i really think putting him with Heyman and allowing him to do his thing with little interference can make him top tier even if he has poor english
Yeah Heyman would make sense if he's destined for the main roster. And he would have to be pushed. But the question is can he pick up the WWE style fast enough to not embarrass himself and force WWE to de-push him quickly.
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Hope they don't ask him to change his in ring work. Why sign the king of strong style only to have him learn "WWE style"?
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That was actually a pretty god awful promo.
Didn't think it was God awful but it was one of the shorter ones could find but definitely not their best. Anderson probably the best talker of the group though.
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Nakamura has the intangible 'it' factor, that thing you can't teach, he's a star and it pours out of him every time you see him. But even then, it depends what they do with him, he has the biggest potential up-side but could be a bust also. He'd tear NXT up rn, he makes Kenta/Itami look like an 80s jobber and Balor/Nakamura rn as the main event of a Takeover show would probably be the best thing you've seen in NXT to date. The main roster is where the questions need to be answered. AJ is basically a smoother Seth Rollins with less 'mainstream' appeal and worse mic skills. Anderson & Gallows are WWE style guys anyway and will fit right in, Anderson especially given he actually has quite an entertaining/comedic personality when the situation calls for it. All depends on the WWE machine and how well they want them to do really.
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Hope they don't ask him to change his in ring work. Why sign the king of strong style only to have him learn "WWE style"?
he won't have to change his in ring work per se but there's no way he's going to be Boma Ye-ing people's heads off to the level he does in New Japan. Honestly wouldn't be surprised given the Curb Stomp is gone if he has a new finish altogether
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Nakumura vs Rollins is the match I'd most want to see from the bunch. Feel like Styles vs Ziggler could be good as well but not as good as Rollins/Nakumura.
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If they let him go all out Styles will be just fine on the main roster. The dude has "it".

Nakumura will be fine if he can just get over the language barrier. If he speaks English he should be fine so long as he speaks it relatively well. Of course there'll always be a glass ceiling above him simply because he's Japanese. I could see him having a great career, and he could possibly go further than any Japanese wrestler ever has here in the States (even Muta), but that'll all depend on whether or not WWE is willing to push him.

As for Gallows and Anderson, well I don't know enough about them to really say where they'll go. Gallows having already been in WWE and flopping is going to hurt him though. He'll have the Tensai issue where everyone chants his old ring-name during matches if they try to repackage him. Just imagining the area chanting "Festus!" already...
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Shinsuke Nakamura has charisma out the whazoo. He'll be able to get over in the same sense that CM Punk and Daniel Bryan got over. He may not be the top guy, but people will love him. I'd love to see Ambrose vs. Nakamura, and think that could be a tremendous IC Title match at SummerSlam.

AJ Styles should debut in NXT and challenge his friend and ally, Finn Balor to an NXT Title match. Then Karl Anderson and Luke Gallows jump the barricade and Balor is all confused. Heel turn from Styles and The Bullet Club is the hottest thing in NXT. They make a target of whoever is going against Triple H at the time on the main roster (Roman Reigns & Dean Ambrose?) and then Finn Balor gets called up to join them for a big six-man on PPV.
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Nakamura seems to be using alot more submission moves lately so I could see him going that route for a finisher but putting him with anyone who enjoys working stiff could be sheer magic.
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Shinsuke Nakamura has charisma out the whazoo. He'll be able to get over in the same sense that CM Punk and Daniel Bryan got over. He may not be the top guy, but people will love him. I'd love to see Ambrose vs. Nakamura, and think that could be a tremendous IC Title match at SummerSlam.

AJ Styles should debut in NXT and challenge his friend and ally, Finn Balor to an NXT Title match. Then Karl Anderson and Luke Gallows jump the barricade and Balor is all confused. Heel turn from Styles and The Bullet Club is the hottest thing in NXT. They make a target of whoever is going against Triple H at the time on the main roster (Roman Reigns & Dean Ambrose?) and then Finn Balor gets called up to join them for a big six-man on PPV.
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I could get behind a Nakumura WWE title run to. Wouldn't have to be a long one but having him hold the title could be great for them in Japan. Don't feel like Vince would give a title run to Styles but but you never know. Styles was the first American IWGP Heavyweight Champion since Brock Lesnar and he won it twice.
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I wouldn't sign Tama Tonga and Bad Luck Fale right now. Let them get more experience and star time in Japan, and don't dry New Japan all out at once. Once AJ Styles, Karl Anderson & Luke Gallows are more established, you can bring in this new "Elite" group of Kenny Omega, Tama and Fale and make them their own big deal.
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Not sure how I feel about that Elite name either. Would like them to just stay Bullet Club andOmega gets a big push. With Gallows and Anderson leaving that sets up Tonga and Fale to be the heavyweight tag team for Bullet Club. Cody Hall could also move up in the ranks and maybe win the NEVER Openweight title.
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I don't like that Elite name either. Maybe it'll change when the group gets their vibe together?
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Seems like it would confuse people to with the Killer Elite Squad. I feel like its just another branch of Bullet Club, kind of like NWO Hollywood or NWO 2000. Bullet Club The Elite would be fine but just Elite would seem wrong.
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Gallows could also team up with The Dudleys and face Balor, Styles, and Anderson (all leaders of Bullet Club at one time). Aces & Eights vs Bullet Club.
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It should probably play off the idea of Omega being "The End" or something. "End Times?"
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I was reading an article on 411Mania.com that suggested AJ Styles wins the Royal Rumble. You know, if they can't get The Rock insured, the case of who faces Brock Lesnar does become a lot murkier. With Gallows, Anderson and maybe Balor behind him, AJ Styles could gather more credibility as a force.
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