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Old 08-04-2020, 12:49 AM   #121
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...wut?

Alright, that was REALLY bad. AEW level bad.

Why would a security camera pick up sound? Why would they be making so much noise? Why did they wait until they were close to the security camera to start making this noise? This is just horribly directed and produced. Film students could do a better job of this. And they've got Full Sail. Give some of those kids a chance doing some shit.

The Shield looked pretty bush league in terms of their get-ups the first week too. Remember the turtlenecks? Hopefully this is ironed out, but I don't trust WWE production. Kevin Dunn needs to move into a different position and enjoy his stock options.
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Old 08-04-2020, 12:52 AM   #122
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WWE needs to get out of their own bubble and accept that what they actually put on is not great television. They do great video packages and as far as cues, cuts, etc. go -- they nail all that. But their actual aesthetic direction is fucking abysmal and has been for years and years and years. And the more they try to get avant garde with it, the worse it looks. If you have an idea, there are no doubt plenty of people in the world looking for work who could help you do it. A bunch of people taking out a generator to a building is a whatever idea in concept. Film it fucking properly.

They were better at this sort of stuff in 1998 when they just had a camera and pointed it and didn't come off like a grandmother playing with her filters.
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Old 08-04-2020, 01:00 AM   #123
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To be fair, some security cameras are indeed capable of recording sound.
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Old 08-04-2020, 01:03 AM   #124
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Pro Wrestling Sheet spoiled what the big surprise is for tonight in regards to the faction thing.

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Old 08-04-2020, 01:06 AM   #125
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To be fair, some security cameras are indeed capable of recording sound.
I'm sure, but not that crisply. And it doesn't change the whole thing was pretty shit, haha.

I'll give it time before I put it in The Dark Order basket. But there are some things they definitely could work on.
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Old 08-04-2020, 01:43 AM   #126
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I just realized KO fought so hard to get rid of Shane and he didn't seem to care at all that Shane was back.

I dont get the point of shane being involved. Is he going to be the leader of the group (eww?)
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Old 08-04-2020, 01:51 AM   #127
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Old 08-04-2020, 01:52 AM   #128
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I dont even know what they are destroying.
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That cant be some server because no server would be outside and most servers are in the " cloud " now so what the fuck are they destroying ?

What time does AEW come on guys?
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Old 08-04-2020, 02:02 AM   #130
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Old 08-04-2020, 02:03 AM   #131
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Nothing means anything in WWE anymore. The way to go for me personally is just to enjoy the PPVs as best I can and watch the awesome roster. I also can’t care about the winners or losers because it just doesn’t fucking matter.

Hurt Business looked strong tonight. Big shit. It won’t mean anything in a month.
To be fair, MVP got pinned earlier although there was the whole lights thing and Shelton lost the 24/7 belt without getting pinned.

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Corbin retired Angle, won KOTR. Who cares? He’s an entry level feud now.
I think what theyrr doing with Corbin and his "kings ransom" (which is more like a bounty..) but Shorty G being the first to bite didnt excite me.
Who remembers Rollins going over Lesnar twice last year on PPV?

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Otis. To be fair as long as Stowman is champion theres not much to do with him.
I'm surprised they haven't turned Tucker on him yet, maybe that's too easy and obvious. Of course, the Fiend would destroy him in 30 seconds if he cashed in so thats probably a dead end. They have 10 months to figure something out.

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Whatever happened to Rhea?
I think sh had visa issues, but she came back and is now blonde and ina #1 contenders match Wednesday. I doubt she wins though since the storyline has been Dakota Kai and Io for several weeks.

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Didn’t Owens go over Rollins at Mania? That earned him nothing.
KO is being wasted but it seemed like they hinted at something tonight.
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The point I’m trying to make is, no matter what happens with the current generation of talent on the 5 hours of television a week, nothing matters. Because when the WWE actually gets focused and wants to draw money, it gets focused on the stars of the 1990s and 2000s rather than investing in current talent.
Its a tough watch these days
Blame coronavirus, I think theyre probably doing as best they can given circumstances
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Old 08-04-2020, 02:05 AM   #132
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I dont even know what they are destroying.
big generator maybe

There were power issues the whole night
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Old 08-04-2020, 04:00 AM   #133
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Old 08-04-2020, 07:41 AM   #134
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I watched a few of those Raw Underground clips. It's a step in the right direction for a lot of reasons. I didn't hate it, and it could emphasize the strength of a lot of guys and actually get some people over. They REALLY need to work on that camera work though. Holy shit, that is bad.
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Old 08-04-2020, 07:43 AM   #135
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After sleeping on it, I think I saw how it ends...

MVP and Shelton KO'd by Shane, and Lashley selling the worst looking punches known to Man.
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Old 08-04-2020, 12:03 PM   #136
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Old 08-04-2020, 12:22 PM   #137
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I just realized KO fought so hard to get rid of Shane and he didn't seem to care at all that Shane was back.

I dont get the point of shane being involved. Is he going to be the leader of the group (eww?)

He actually touched on it on the KO show.
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Old 08-04-2020, 01:57 PM   #138
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I like the cut mid way through the "Chaos" video
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Old 08-04-2020, 02:20 PM   #139
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I will admit this part was bad ass, glad Erik got to show something. Also that German was fucking sick!

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Old 08-04-2020, 02:23 PM   #140
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Saw a clip of Rey Mysterio' s kid. The added crowd has done wonders with the plexiglass acting as a prop to bang on.

The camera cuts tho. Woof.
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Old 08-04-2020, 03:03 PM   #141
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Old 08-04-2020, 04:22 PM   #142
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The concept of the Underground is a potential huge step in the right direction. It all depends on the execution of it. It was introduced yesterday that the Underground is a place where there are no rules while fighting. This is cool, except in-ring WWE fighting currently doesn’t have any rules either.

With that, this a chance for WWE to implement rules in their matches such as: no closed fists, no knees to the head, etc.

This would help the legitimacy and realism of their matches and also assist their former MMA talent keep their credibility. As of now, how should any former MMA trained wrestler ever lose? It’s not believable. So the Underground can serve a way to protect the legit fighters that have turned to WWE.

An example of an angle could be:

In a WWE match, Riddle instinctually knees Corbin in the head in the heat of the moment and gets DQ’d. Corbin brags about his victory, which leads to Riddle wanting to challenge him in the Underground where he can legally knee his face in.

There are a ton of simple, effective ideas to do with their talent in this environment, but there needs to be logic, consistency, and effort (LOL).
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Old 08-04-2020, 04:55 PM   #143
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Alright, that was REALLY bad. AEW level bad.

Why would a security camera pick up sound? Why would they be making so much noise? Why did they wait until they were close to the security camera to start making this noise? This is just horribly directed and produced. Film students could do a better job of this
Typical wwe, soon as i seen that skit on the highlights on YouTube i was thinking "hmm, security cameras with hd audio", they may as well have went the whole hog and have them all mic'd up and still acted ignorant as to their identity.
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Old 08-04-2020, 05:14 PM   #144
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They should just let that one guy back on the property, he was more entertaining than that stupid vandals group.
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Old 08-04-2020, 05:22 PM   #145
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Old 08-04-2020, 05:54 PM   #146
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Shane works really well (from what I’ve seen) as the promoter/fight organizer. It kind of ties in his awful commentary run, his referee work, his desire to buy the UFC and him being an ageing gen-xer into this pretty entertaining character. You can believe this guy would still have scantily clad women in his club and would be making shit up as he goes along.
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Old 08-04-2020, 06:17 PM   #147
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i don’t watch raw or smackdown other than clips i sometimes catch online. those two raw underground clips remind me of something that it should be within the first 10 seconds but i didn’t actually see them doing. firstly, those strippers are obviously wearing clothing that doesn’t expose any cleavage and they are dancing in the unsexiest way possible, so get rid of them. it is really cool seeing what a 20x20 ring actually looks like without ropes or posts, that part is great if you just want to resemble mma. my first thought was that they should try to make it more like shotgun saturday night, get a balcony and a bar and some neon in there. maybe bring back the surviving members of DOA or something, i’unno
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Old 08-04-2020, 07:18 PM   #148
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Probably going to watch Raw next week for the first time in years because of this . Last Raw I watched was the 25th Anniversary show.

I'm sure I'll turn it off 10 minutes in because of the nauseating camera cuts
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I might watch too. And probably do the same thing. Have you seen any of the clips from this week, Gerty? The camerawork is so bad.
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Old 08-04-2020, 11:19 PM   #151
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Hey, it is stellar camerawork.

The direction, and instructions they are getting is terrible.
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Apparently there were around 79 camera cuts done just during the fights portion of the RAW Underground segments on Monday.

The Observer's Mike Sempervive decided to tally up the amount of screen time given to the fights and the number of camera cuts done to see how bad WWE's camera work actually was.

Ended up being 4 fights total, not counting the stuff with MVP's crew at the end, at slightly under 2 minutes of combined action but with around 79 camera cuts in total. Last two fights alone had around 50 camera cuts for about 80 seconds of action.
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And yet it was somehow still better than AEW.
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did your mother not give you enough attention when you were a child?
Did your mother not teach you how to sass effectively?
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RAW Underground was neat. I want Ziggler to only fight there.

Also was KO on this episode? He didn't make the Hulu cut. Is there a promo or something I need to go find?
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this isn’t about sass. you are a jerk and it doesn’t seem like you’ll ever get reprehended for your conduct. how many boards have you been kicked out off?
I got kicked off a discussion board for mothers recently. They worked out I was just there trying to score with yummy mommies.
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