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Old 06-03-2019, 03:31 PM   #41
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Most people seemingly on this guy's side now but feel like this could have easily been flipped around as him being some "misogynistic piece of shit fan"
Well he does have a male penis so thats a given really
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Old 06-03-2019, 03:49 PM   #42
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The fan and Velvet both sounded like they were being immature teenagers. But Velvet tattling on the guy simply for returning an insult that was thrown at him is much worse. That she got offended at that is pretty ridiculous.
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Old 06-03-2019, 03:49 PM   #43
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Offending people is the job. The mark paid to talk shit. Thats the transaction.
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Old 06-03-2019, 03:49 PM   #44
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I feel like Bully Ray probably didn't even give a shit about the situation and was just looking for free nookie points.
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Old 06-03-2019, 03:50 PM   #45
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Unless the guy looks her in the eye and recites her home address and says he coming to kill her puppies I dont see what he could have possibly done that warranted this.
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Old 06-03-2019, 03:58 PM   #46
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He seems like a cock, had to make sure he told the world about it on Twitter. Attention seeking.
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Old 06-03-2019, 04:19 PM   #47
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Whoever Mandy Lee is apparently spit on the dude too

Would def prefer people in general don't spit on me at events I pay to attend.
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Old 06-03-2019, 04:21 PM   #48
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If these chicks can't even handle one lone heckler, then maybe pro wrestling isn't for them. Maybe they should try accounting.
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Old 06-03-2019, 04:38 PM   #49
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Mandy Leon would totally get it.
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Old 06-03-2019, 04:44 PM   #50
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Old 06-03-2019, 04:53 PM   #51
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The thing that is annoying me about this guy's story is how he is like "I would never try to get myself over or make the show about me" when it is obvious that is exactly what he was doing

Sounded like he was loudly heckling everyone in an annoying ass way... There are a lot of fans at shows who think they are really funny and you just want them to shut the fuck up and he def sounds like one of them
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Old 06-03-2019, 05:03 PM   #52
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I h8 those fans!
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Old 06-03-2019, 05:21 PM   #53
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Gotta say, I thought this would be a lot worse than it sounds. So basically you are being offensive and loudmouthed, possibly abusive, and all that happens is you are taken backstage and reminded to be respectful?

And that’s what I got from reading HIS side of events.
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Old 06-03-2019, 05:27 PM   #54
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The thing that is annoying me about this guy's story is how he is like "I would never try to get myself over or make the show about me" when it is obvious that is exactly what he was doing

Sounded like he was loudly heckling everyone in an annoying ass way... There are a lot of fans at shows who think they are really funny and you just want them to shut the fuck up and he def sounds like one of them
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Old 06-03-2019, 05:34 PM   #55
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Yeah it's mountains out of molehills. Just like the Sonny Kiss/Jim Cornette non-troversy it sounds like wasted angle fodder.

Own it people. Be the heel the world needs.
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Old 06-03-2019, 06:18 PM   #56
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that reminds me of chelsee green going off on a fan at an indy show. all those years velvet has been a heel wrestler you would figure she could handle a loudmouth. maybe they can get a good story angle from this, you know the fans will give them hell now.
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Old 06-03-2019, 06:22 PM   #57
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Spitting on the fans can't really be styled out though.

The rest is hot air but grogging on a paying customer is way out of line.
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Old 06-03-2019, 06:31 PM   #58
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Spitting on the fans can't really be styled out though.

The rest is hot air but grogging on a paying customer is way out of line.
I wish someone caught it on there phones, hate to say it but the girl spiting was a good heel thing to do.
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Old 06-03-2019, 06:39 PM   #59
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No if she had shoved the guy or slapped him then maybe but spitting is just horrid and unsanitary. You'd start a riot doing that back in the day.
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Old 06-03-2019, 06:39 PM   #60
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that reminds me of chelsee green going off on a fan at an indy show. all those years velvet has been a heel wrestler you would figure she could handle a loudmouth. maybe they can get a good story angle from this, you know the fans will give them hell now.
With all those years Velvet has been a wrestler you would think she would have figured out how to wrestle. Some people just have a very low ceiling. In entertainment. In life skills. Generally.

I will now sit back and wait for Bully Ray to send me a threatening DM.
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No clue why anyone would give a shit about what a mark said. He bought his ticket. Let him enjoy it.
Yeah. Bunch of sensitive souls in here getting bent-up over a jack-off gesture to a bunch of women called Allure with a jack-off gimmick. Wrestlers are as allergic to heat as fans are.
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No if she had shoved the guy or slapped him then maybe but spitting is just horrid and unsanitary. You'd start a riot doing that back in the day.
back in the day heels had to fear for there lives just going to the ring fans would throw shit at them. that's why they should have ignored big mouth.
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Spitting is classified as assault in a lot (most? all?) places.
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Only if it doesn't land on anyone. Spitting is battery if the spit connects.
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back in the day heels had to fear for there lives just going to the ring fans would throw shit at them. that's why they should have ignored big mouth.
Yeah fair enough, though I do love old clips of heels just picking a random person after ignoring everybody else's abuse and shitting them up.
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Kind of wonder what else he said to have it escalate to getting spit on and security taking him to the back for a meeting with Bully.

Going by his story, he didn't really do anything that bad but then again, he also didn't mention anything about doing a jacking off taunt to them which changes things a bit.
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I mean come on, Bubba Dudley has been threatening to beat up fans for 25 years.

That would be like getting mad at Rikishi for shaking his ass at you!
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Old 06-03-2019, 08:03 PM   #69
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ROFL that guy
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Sounds like he's leaving a lot of stuff out on his end.

You gotta be really running your mouth and doing something beyond crazy if you're getting spit on and getting called out either during or after a match. Security at that point should have either stepped and gave him a warning or move his seat.

Although, I think Velvet/Bully Ray went a bit to far to bring the guy in back and give him a talking to.

That said, yes. As fans if we buy a ticket and "feed the beast" we have every right to boo the heels, cheer the faces. Or vice versa in some cases. We can bring in signs saying whatever we want (to a degree, one way or another).

There's lines. Sounds like this guy went a bit too far over his.
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There's lines. Sounds like this guy went a bit too far over his.
Love Bullys response!

"I think we can all agree that in 2019, this type of behavior towards women is unacceptable and goes far beyond the scope of, 'I paid for my seat"

This is the same guy who in 1998 said "You got a mom in the front row who taught her daughter how to suck dick!"

What a world lol
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Old 06-03-2019, 09:22 PM   #72
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If Bully's response is to be believed, the backstage interaction between him and the fan was a lot more tamer than the fan told.

Bully did admit that not simply tossing the guy out made this into a bigger mess than it needed to be.


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Yeah the main issue is Bully Ray trying to be a tough guy and intimidating the guy backstage instead of him just being thrown out for being a dickhead
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Going by the several threads on Reddit, seems the origin for this incident revolves around the guy allegedly harassed Velvet Sky on Twitter a couple months ago.

Also seems this wasn't an isolated incident and the guy allegedly was causing issues earlier in the show as well. Then again others who were at the show stated he wasn't causing issues earlier.
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Nothing screams small time like taking a “fan” out back to be intimidated by a “star”(?).

Honestly I don’t care if the guy killed her puppy in the front row, if he was that bad security dropped the ball by not stepping in. If he wasn’t that bad Buh buh (and the ladies) come off as unprofessional softies who seem to not understand a heels job.
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All I got out of this is Mandy Leon spit on this guy. Unless he hopped the rail or tried to grab a handful of tits or pie, there was no reason for that.

I don't care how "hot" she is, that's bullshit. Same people talking about how they'd pay to have that happen to them would be the first ones trying to sue the company if it were someone like Nyla Rose or any other analogue you want to put in there of someone they personally wouldn't want to fuck.
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Lol, Bully takes the guy backstage and is like "I didn't intimidate him." The very action of taking someone backstage into a room they've never been in before where someone else has all the power is intimidation in its very nature.

"I took him down to the room covered in plastic, but I was a total doll about it."

Fucking hell, what amateur bullshit. People are trying to do all these gymnastics to make the fan look like shit too. I don't know if he is or not, but they don't have to let him into their shows if he's got this alleged known history. If he's booing the heels and cheering the faces, maybe he's just really into it?

You'd think if there was this long history, Bully wouldn't have been so cordial without the use of intimidation, as he insists.
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All I got out of this is Mandy Leon spit on this guy. Unless he hopped the rail or tried to grab a handful of tits or pie, there was no reason for that.

I don't care how "hot" she is, that's bullshit.
I’d be okay with Mandy Leon spitting on me

So long as she was spitting on my cock for extra lube for the under the table handjob she was giving me
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Lol, Bully takes the guy backstage and is like "I didn't intimidate him." The very action of taking someone backstage into a room they've never been in before where someone else has all the power is intimidation in its very nature.

"I took him down to the room covered in plastic, but I was a total doll about it."

Fucking hell, what amateur bullshit. People are trying to do all these gymnastics to make the fan look like shit too. I don't know if he is or not, but they don't have to let him into their shows if he's got this alleged known history. If he's booing the heels and cheering the faces, maybe he's just really into it?

You'd think if there was this long history, Bully wouldn't have been so cordial without the use of intimidation, as he insists.
I actually think everyone involved in this incident is just awful, and leave it at that.
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