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Old 10-03-2019, 09:32 AM   #81
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Im thinking about going to see this today but i also dont wanna get out today
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Old 10-03-2019, 09:54 AM   #82
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Just try not to buy an AR and kill everyone afterwards. Unless you're black. If you're black, you should be fine.
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Old 10-04-2019, 08:04 AM   #83
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I want to see Joker today, but just the thought of buying the ticket awakens my white rage. I listened to Nickelback on a loop all night last night. I dont think I should leave the house.
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Old 10-04-2019, 08:18 AM   #84
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I think i'll wait for a much safer movie for me to see in public. I'll wait for Bird of Prey. Pale white females throwing bombs from cars and shooting cops, does not get my white man rage boiling at much...because they are white and... female.
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Old 10-05-2019, 03:17 AM   #85
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Seeing it Monday. Very excited.
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:42 AM   #86
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Joaquin Phoenix could reasonably be a multiple Oscar winner by now, I hope he gets a few eventually because he's just great.
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Old 10-05-2019, 12:41 PM   #88
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Don't think he wants one. Pretty sure he hates the academy.
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That's his prerogative but his fans should be allowed to see him honoured.
George Scott might not have wanted one but his name sits in the list like all the others.
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lol not that Rotten Tomatoes has much credibility anymore, but I find it funny that the rating for the movie dropped about 15 or 16 percentage points after Todd Phillips spoke out against Woke culture.
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Old 10-05-2019, 02:35 PM   #91
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I don't think I even know what woke culture is
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Old 10-05-2019, 11:41 PM   #93
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Films good. By no meansa masterpiece (a phrase that has been thrown around a bit too much imo) but would definitely recommend it
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The media acting like this is the first movie with guns in it and the first movie that is dark is fucking ridiculous.
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Old 10-06-2019, 12:08 AM   #95
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Its not half as violent as the trailers were. Less guns too.
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Old 10-06-2019, 12:11 AM   #96
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Film had a 55mil budget (premarketing) and is already at 40mil. If it doesnt this weekend then by the end of nextweek it will be in the black (including marketing)
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lol not that Rotten Tomatoes has much credibility anymore, but I find it funny that the rating for the movie dropped about 15 or 16 percentage points after Todd Phillips spoke out against Woke culture.
That's because people who are both in the woke culture and happen to be published film critics submitted their woke reviews and dragged the score down.
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Old 10-06-2019, 12:39 AM   #99
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It's tracking for $80m opening weekend
Marketing is likely betwee 20 and 35 mil. So if its high end they won't hit profits until Saturday next week. If its low end theyll see profits on sunday
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Old 10-06-2019, 01:21 AM   #100
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Word of mouth is going to carry this film. Gonna be a big hit for WB.
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Old 10-06-2019, 01:24 AM   #101
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agreed

when I look over social media the reviews from people watching are really positive overall, lots of "you have to see this" type comments
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Agreed. I think the week 2 drop off for this will be much smaller than the average and id expect it to stay steady for several weeks
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It's already gonna clear $240m globally. This is a smash hit for Warner. And hopefully continues to push them in the directing of allowing their filmmakers artistic freedom.
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At some point over the last few years it's shifted from people who were aware of discrimination to people obsessed with finding discrimination of some sort in practically everything
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Jesus Fucking Christ Danny Trejo is 75
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Spoke with a normie today. He hated joker. As far as i can tell he expected an action film. He walked out on the 2nd act.
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Joker-9/10

I got what I expected and more. This movie does not try to promote, glorify or justify a triggered individual with mental health issues going over the edge. It is a dark, grim, hopeless and brutal 2 hour film about a man with a start to life so tragic, you realize he never had any real chance to be more than what he is.

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The opening scene sets the tone for the film, and it's unforgiving from there. The first time we see Arthur jumped, you do feel a sense of pity for him. He's clearly mentally challenged and not an inherently bad man. When Arthur gets a taste of his first kill, you can see the gears in his head start to wind. The character goes from being pitiful and, to a point, sympathetic, to a slow decent into madness after seeing that his first murder is what makes him feel noticed.

The descent into madness is not immediate however. He does not go on some murderous spree immediately after. Instead, the film takes its time, setting up several series of events that both are a revelation to the viewer and to Arthur himself, the final one being the tipping point.

Arthur learns of true past. At least as true as the film would allow, and that, as the 3rd act begins, is the final step in Arthur embracing and becoming the Joker. He becomes unhinged, but calculating. His actions are not without merit, from his pov, and they are not senseless in that the kills relate to the story that came before them.

In the end, I walked out having enjoyed the movie. But it is not a fun movie. It is a contrast to the Dark Knight, where a hero sacrifices himself to take the fall for the betterment of his city, and in doing so, instills hope in the future of Gotham. Joker instead only promises a bleak, grim era of the city that, given the theme of the oppressed uprising, is only going to get worse.

Joaquin Phoenix is magnetic. Like any small scale Phoenix film, he's virtually in every single scene, and he owns every frame. The character's progression to several bad days, feeling depressed and hopeless, to embracing and relishing in the Joker persona, is top notch work from him. I would hope he gets an Oscar nod.
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Old 10-08-2019, 12:41 AM   #114
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Spoke with a normie today. He hated joker. As far as i can tell he expected an action film. He walked out on the 2nd act.
He deserved to be disappointed. It would've taken all of 5 minutes to research the style of film.
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He deserved to be disappointed. It would've taken all of 5 minutes to research the style of film.
id say its a failure of the marketing team. Its not the consumers job to research. Some people arent plugged in and they dont have to be


In any case i found it interesting what a joe blow average movie goer was left with. Moreover the struggle it will be for comic films to transend into more than just blockbusters
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It wasn't marketed as an action film either.

My buddy is an average film goer and thought it was mediocre.
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Cinemaphiles love it at least
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I've heard mostly good things from other average movie goers. It's making a killing at that box office. Interested to see what kind of legs it has.
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That's because people who are both in the woke culture and happen to be published film critics submitted their woke reviews and dragged the score down.
The best ones are the ones that basically say you can replace Joaquin Phoenix with Donald Trump

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“At the end of the movie, a triumphant Fleck — seemingly dead, but magically revived by the cheers of a throng of clown-masked rioters — does a grotesque soft-shoe on top of a shattered cop car, literally dancing on the destroyed remains of the rule of law,” Yang concludes. “Imagine Fleck as Trump, shrugging off impeachment, rebounding with his roaring red-hatted supporters, winning reelection against every prediction and probability.”
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I'm going to see it on Sunday.

I didn't have much interest towards the film on the run-up to its release, but all the good press from the far-leftie crowd makes me want to go see it.
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