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Old 07-05-2009, 11:30 PM   #1
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Let's analyze the younger guys on WWE's roster
What level do you think they will reach? Let's say guys under 30. You can leave Orton off for obvious reasons

Cody Rhodes - mid to upper midcard
Evan Bourne - upper midcard
Festus - midcard (had no idea this guy was only 25)
Jack Swagger - World Champion
Kofi Kingston - upper midcard, sporadic main eventer
The Miz - mid to upper midcard
Primo Colon - midcard
Ted Dibiase - World Champion
Curt Hawkins - midcard
Dolph Ziggler - upper midcard
Jimmy Wang Yang - midcard but probably not
John Morrison - World Champion
JTG - midcard
Shad - mid to upper midcard
Zack Ryder - upper midcard

Haven't seen enough of the Hart Dynasty or the new guys on ECW to make much of a judgment


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Old 07-05-2009, 11:43 PM   #2
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I think Sheamus is money but he's doomed to fail if his name is just Sheamus. Sheamus O'Shaunessy was perfect.
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Old 07-05-2009, 11:52 PM   #3
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...there's younger guys on the WWE roster?
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Old 07-05-2009, 11:54 PM   #4
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:08 AM   #6
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Old 07-06-2009, 02:38 AM   #7
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I think that two men that will really surprise are both members of Cryme Tyme. The more and more I see of him, the more and more I think that Shad Gaspard is money. The dude is big, he can talk, he is likeable, he has ring presence, he can move and he's green enough that he can still get quite a bit better in the ring. In a few years, I think Shad will be main eventing.

JTG has got the obstacle of size against him, but he's one of the youngest guys on the WWE roster. He is a guy that will succeed despite his size, in my opinion, and while I wouldn't put money on the guy headlining a WrestleMania, it would not surprise me to see him rack up a couple of IC/US Title victories. And once he's reached that stage, who knows how easy it will be for him to climb even further.

Another guy I'd like to mention is Primo Colon. The dude is so young, and has been quite successful in his career so far. Give him some time, and I can see the guy actually getting a really meaty push.
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:12 PM   #8
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I think that two men that will really surprise are both members of Cryme Tyme. The more and more I see of him, the more and more I think that Shad Gaspard is money. The dude is big, he can talk, he is likeable, he has ring presence, he can move and he's green enough that he can still get quite a bit better in the ring. In a few years, I think Shad will be main eventing.

JTG has got the obstacle of size against him, but he's one of the youngest guys on the WWE roster. He is a guy that will succeed despite his size, in my opinion, and while I wouldn't put money on the guy headlining a WrestleMania, it would not surprise me to see him rack up a couple of IC/US Title victories. And once he's reached that stage, who knows how easy it will be for him to climb even further.

Another guy I'd like to mention is Primo Colon. The dude is so young, and has been quite successful in his career so far. Give him some time, and I can see the guy actually getting a really meaty push.
I'll bet you £1 million that Shad Gaspard never gets close to a main event in his career. He isn't going to get any better in the ring. He is pretty awful as it is right now.

Primo Colon is about 12 inches too small to even be considered for anything other than a rare IC title run or something. The guy has the world of talent but they took 2 years to sign the guy because of his height.
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I'll bet you £1 million that Shad Gaspard never gets close to a main event in his career. He isn't going to get any better in the ring. He is pretty awful as it is right now.

Primo Colon is about 12 inches too small to even be considered for anything other than a rare IC title run or something. The guy has the world of talent but they took 2 years to sign the guy because of his height.
I wouldn't make that bet, because nothing is ever set in stone, but I'm standing by Shad Gaspard. The man can talk, has charisma (separate things) and has a lot of size to him. Festus has main evented a show before. Can you really not see Shad one day doing the same?

As for Primo, you have a point, but I never said the guy will be World Champion -- I just think he will be surprisingly successful in the WWE.
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Old 07-06-2009, 02:35 AM   #10
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By the way, here is a complete listing of guys under 30 in the WWE:

Cody Rhodes (24)
Curt Hawkins (24)
David Hart Smith (22)
Dolph Ziggler (28)
Evan Bourne (26)
Festus (25)
Gabriel (26)
Jack Swagger (26)
Jimmy Wang Yang (28)
John Morrison (29)
JTG (24)
Kofi Kingston (27)
The Miz (28)
Paul Burchill (29)
Primo (26)
Shad Gaspard (28)
Ted DiBiase (26)
Tyson Kidd (28)
Zack Ryder (24)

I'm not sure about Sheamus, who someone mentioned. I can't find his age anywhere. Of those guys, I think the talent is pretty strong. I've already talked about Cryme Tyme and Primo, so I'll give them a skip.

Of the men listed above, I think the most sure-fire World Champions would be David Hart Smith, Jack Swagger and John Morrison. Cody Rhodes and Dolph Ziggler are likely to end up with some major achievement to their name's, as well, but I don't think they are quite as bankable as the first pack of names. Ted DiBiase will likely get his time in the sun, although I don't see what is so good about him.

I've got a funny feeling that Festus will one day get a World Title, too. Probably not as Festus, but under a different gimmick. He has proven that he can play characters, and I think the WWE tries to give him a serious monster push one day.
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Old 07-06-2009, 06:08 AM   #14
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Old 07-06-2009, 06:51 AM   #15
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:57 AM   #16
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Cody Rhodes (24) - Main event filler
Curt Hawkins (24) - Jobber/Fired
David Hart Smith (22) - Midcard
Dolph Ziggler (28) - Midcard
Evan Bourne (26) - Midcard
Festus (25) - Jobber
Gabriel (26) - Jobber
Jack Swagger (26) - Main eventer
Jimmy Wang Yang (28) - Jobber
John Morrison (29) - Main eveter
JTG (24) - Jobber/Fired
Kofi Kingston (27) - Midcard/Upper midcard
The Miz (28) - Upper midcard
Paul Burchill (29) - Fired
Primo (26) - What is under midcard now a days Besides jobber.
Shad Gaspard (28) - Midcard or fired. Whatever comes first.
Ted DiBiase (26) - Main event filler
Tyson Kidd (28) - What is under midcard now a days? Besides jobber.
Zack Ryder (24) - Jobber
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i like Dolph Ziggler he kinda reminds me of a bad guy in a cheesy 80's movie like karate kid.

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Old 07-06-2009, 08:18 AM   #18
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I think Ziggler looks 100x better after his hair is tussled in the match. When it's all slicked back, he looks...bad. But after the matches, he looks much better.

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Old 07-06-2009, 08:22 AM   #19
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I can't believe I'm about to say this, but I agree with Noid on the main event potential of Shad and the upper midcard potential of JTG. They could be the ghetto Diesel/HBK.
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That is exactly what I was thinking. I didn't want to compare JTG to Shawn Michaels, though, because I figured people would take it as me saying JTG is as good as HBK. I would merely be referencing the style of character (arrogant small guy who achieves despite his size).
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Cody Rhodes (24) - Upper mid-card
Curt Hawkins (24) - Jobber
David Hart Smith (22) - World Champion if he can keep clean
Dolph Ziggler (28) - Upper mid-card
Evan Bourne (26) - an upset WH Champion (similar to Mysterio)
Festus (25) - Future endeavors
Gabriel (26) - Hopefully repackaged, then mid-card. If not, future endeavored
Jack Swagger (26) - WH Champion
Jimmy Wang Yang (28) - Jobber (unless repackaged, asian redneck gimmick is stale)
John Morrison (29) - WH Champion (next Chris Jericho, can be used in ME when needed, or be the 'highest' mid-carder)
JTG (24) - Tag Team Jobber/ future endeavored
Kofi Kingston (27) - Upper mid-card
The Miz (28) - Upper mid-card
Paul Burchill (29) - Upper mid-card
Primo (26) - lower mid-card.
Shad Gaspard (28) - see JTG
Ted DiBiase (26) - WH Champion (one of the best young talent there is)
Tyson Kidd (28) - Hopefully mid-card, but I can see future endeavored if Bulldog Jr. is pushed
Zack Ryder (24) - lower mid-card
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:44 AM   #23
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Shelton Benjamin -needs better mic skills but push him hard heel and wwe champ def.
Ted DiBiase- needs work on mic too but prob. world champ
Jack Swagger- WORLD CHAMP
John Morrison -WORLD CHAMP
Ricky Ortiz - strong heel trun and a haircut and could be the next ROCK
Cody Rhodes-i.c. and us champ maybe in the future
David Hart Smith- not in the near future maybe a few years
Dolph Ziggler- the next mr. perfect., but perfect didnt win the title, but maybe
Evan Bourne- i hope not, he aint nowhere near reys level, rey paid his dues in wcw
Festus - they dont know what to do with festus, repacakge him put him with or against kane, and stick his tounge back in his mouth..
Jimmy Wang Yang- poop.......................................
JTG -he needs to quit actin like he's so hard, no ones buyin it
Kofi Kingston -maybe world champ some day, but they cant make everyone the champ
The Miz - hate him or love him he will be damn good
Paul Burchill- bring in the ripper gimmick with the ski mask, bad ass heel shit there
Primo-tag u.s. and i.c
Shad Gaspard-he gotta prove his worth
Tyson Kidd -maybe some day, that elbow off the ropes is the shit
Zack Ryder-youre fired
Ezekiel Jackson could be a monster if they give him a chance

again, not everyone can be the champ... there is already a bunch on the rosters that have been there for years and have not won the big titles, (not includint the ecw title)
Christian
Matt Hardy- better get his day he earned it
Mark Henry
them three right there should be in line soon for the big push
Jeff Hardy too he's won the world title twice but they wont let him hold it for more than a week, but with his track record its understandable

so the young guys have prove themselves first.........
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Old 07-06-2009, 01:40 PM   #24
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Cody Rhodes (24) - Upper mid-card
Curt Hawkins (24) FE
David Hart Smith (22) mid-card
Dolph Ziggler (28) World Champ
Evan Bourne (26) World Champ
Festus (25) mid-card
Gabriel (26) FE
Jack Swagger (26) World Champ
Jimmy Wang Yang (28) FE
John Morrison (29) World Champ
JTG (24) Upper Mid-card
Kofi Kingston (27) Upper Midcard
The Miz (28) Midcard
Paul Burchill (29) FE
Primo (26) Mid-card
Shad Gaspard (28) World Champ
Ted DiBiase (26) World Champ
Tyson Kidd (28) Upper Mid-card
Zack Ryder (24) Upper Mid-card
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Old 07-06-2009, 05:23 PM   #25
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I'm surprised at how young Jimmy Wang Yang is. That means that back when he was competing in WCW in 2001, he would have been like...20 years old? The man has got a lot of experience, and is pretty captivating in the ring. I think he might actually have a fairly safe job as the kind of enhancement talent Funaki has kept a job as for the last fucking decade or so.

Yang could even be one of those guys that ends up as a road agent. I just wish that they'd do more with him on-screen. I'm still for Yang and Jamie Noble teaming up.
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:18 PM   #26
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I remember marking out when Funaki finally won the Cruiserweight belt and defended it at No Way Out.
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:19 PM   #27
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Old 07-06-2009, 11:24 PM   #28
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As a casual fan(which I am when it comes to the WWE), their new guys all look the same. Maybe it just me but it's like McMAHON has a plant of clones somewhere. Nobody stands out,they look like Mark Jindrak or Randy Orton.
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Old 07-06-2009, 11:28 PM   #29
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As a casual fan(which I am when it comes to the WWE), their new guys all look the same. Maybe it just me but it's like McMAHON has a plant of clones somewhere. Nobody stands out,they look like Mark Jindrak or Randy Orton.
Well, they DO have a cloning machine, but they don't use it on lower carders.
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Old 07-07-2009, 12:00 AM   #30
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:07 PM   #31
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That pic just depresses me.
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Old 07-07-2009, 06:33 AM   #32
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I don't understand it when people put Rhodes and DiBiase on the same future tier. They're still exactly the same.
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Old 07-07-2009, 08:08 AM   #33
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Jimmy Yang is 28? I didn't realise he was so young in WCW...having said that he was in the Jung Dragons but still, he was in WCW and having matches at 18/19?
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Old 07-07-2009, 01:13 PM   #34
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:00 PM   #35
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When did Yang debut in WCW? He would have been 18 in May 1999.
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:03 PM   #36
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He made his TV debut in January 2000, but would assume he was wrestling dark matches and house shows long before that.
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:34 PM   #37
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Old 07-07-2009, 08:33 PM   #38
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No, but Rob said that Shad will never get close to a main event. Main eventing a show is a main event.
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:36 PM   #39
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John Morrison & Jack Swagger would be my first picks to become WWE or World Heavyweight Champions.
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:37 PM   #40
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I can't see Cody or Kofi in the main event scenario yet. They have a long long way to go.
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