12-10-2021, 12:14 AM | #41 |
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Wasnt it only a few weeks ago Matt Hardy was saying Jeffs the best hes seen him in years?
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12-10-2021, 12:29 AM | #42 |
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Jeff Hardy to AEW confirmed as per @tomguycotwrestling via Twitter.
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12-10-2021, 12:31 AM | #43 |
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All things being equal, I would hope my brother said the same about me publicly... even if it were 100% true or he were just covering my ass.
But again, I'm not assuming he's off the wagon without proof just because of his past. It could have been as simple as "fuck this; it ain't fun anymore". He could be working a ploy to head to AEW (or even elsewhere - can't assume Jeff doesn't do his own thing). It could even be a long con by WWE themselves like they did with Brian Danielson after he "choked" Justin Roberts with his own tie during the original NEXUS invasion. You know, where he was "released" on paper, allowed to work indy dates, and then came back to WWE right at the end of his non-compete after the negative PR blew over and got "thanked" with a US title run for keeping his mouth shut about it (you can't convince me that's not what went down). I get Occam's Razor and all, but it isn't necessarily good to assume the worst just because. |
12-10-2021, 01:08 AM | #44 |
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My point wasn’t to say he’s having addiction issues, it was kinda the opposite with a hedge of “some people hide it well”
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12-10-2021, 02:13 AM | #45 | |
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We've all seen Jeff Hardy fucked up wrestling. It ain't pretty and its OBVIOUS when compared to his sober work. This does not seem to be that. Looks like a Gail Kim situation. Given he walked out and then got a release (something it seemed that he wanted) tells me he fucking played the game and out-played the out-of-touch Vince McMahon. Imagine the POP if/when he walks back into a ring from the crowd "somewhere". |
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12-10-2021, 02:58 AM | #46 | ||
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But I was legit asking: didn't someone else get released under a pretense of being "injured" or "intoxicated" or some shit, and refused to see a doctor, and got released? I could've sworn someone actually pulled something like that to get out of their contract, but I can't remember who. *(By the way, someone pointed out to me that there IS a "tom guycott" - spelled incorrectly like I did it - on Twitter, but it legit isn't me. Some of it seems like things I'd post, but then other shit was completely off my mark where even I'd be fooled into thinking I actually wrote it.) **(Double checking now, that account I was referring to appears to be gone, and there is now more than one "Tom Guycot" on Twitter - single t correct spelling - and one of them is actually cosplaying as the Clash At Demonhead boss.) |
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12-10-2021, 03:33 AM | #47 | |
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What I will say, though, is that if this *is* some sort of "scheme" to leave (or an actual work within WWE for something not addressed publicly; see my DB stance), Jeff could swerve everyone and go work for Billy Corgan. He doesn't necessarily have to show up in AEW just because Matt is there. There was a point where Jeff was in TNA and Matt was in Ring of Honor. Both guys ended up making appearances at both places, but not always. Right or wrong, I'm just putting money on him not being happy there anymore. Kinda like that football player who up and retired at halftime of an NFL game. |
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12-10-2021, 08:36 AM | #48 |
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Jeff Hardy really does have the “it” factor everybody knows about but nobody can accurately define.
Like I love Matt but anytime he’s just tried being regular ‘ol Matt Hardy, he felt like just another guy and it didn’t work. But Broken Matt, V1 Matt, Big Money Matt etc were all enjoyable to me because of his character work. Jeff on the other hand, doesn't need a character, just being himself has always been enough to get massive pops everywhere. He’s the living embodiment of EWR’s “Unique” gimmick. |
12-10-2021, 09:13 AM | #49 | |
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12-10-2021, 11:13 AM | #50 |
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The article says the WWE offered him rehab prior to his release
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12-10-2021, 03:23 PM | #51 |
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If he wanted to leave, there are plenty of other avenues you can take other than being fucked up, making people think you are fucked up or being wildly unprofessional. I get that people want to think the best, but Jeff is probably not in a good spot. People don’t always show it as obviously as they sometimes have.
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12-10-2021, 03:28 PM | #52 |
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And before anyone says “But WWE won’t let people go,” it’s probably easier to get out of a WWE deal now than it was before. Is there anyone there that has asked for a release that hasn’t been given it at this point? You can call up Vince, talk to him about your health not holding up — mental or physical, pitch a conditional release, fight the contract, a bunch of things besides fucking over your coworkers and a paying audience.
And didn’t Jeff just sign a new contract recently? |
12-10-2021, 04:48 PM | #53 |
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It’s all a work so that they can introduce the WWE Universe to Willow!
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12-10-2021, 06:18 PM | #54 |
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I wonder if Vince has ever seen Jeff as Willow and what his reaction was?
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12-10-2021, 06:43 PM | #55 |
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This is all speculation, but here is a possible scenario.
Jeff Hardy was not under the influence in the match. Whatever reason he walked out, him being upset, him being injured, etc. may have led to his relapse, which was evident when he showed up the next day and and was sent home. |
12-10-2021, 10:22 PM | #56 |
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My second concern is that the same people who say he is faking his condition to get out of WWE would be the first to try to blame WWE should he go too far and end up deceased (worst case scenario).
My first concern is that Jeff goes too far and ends up deceased. |
12-11-2021, 12:23 AM | #57 |
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Jesus fuck, I was only joking.
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12-11-2021, 12:48 AM | #58 |
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does jeff also have 4 kids? if he has fewer than matt, he's still the less fucked up of the two
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12-11-2021, 11:40 AM | #59 |
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12-11-2021, 02:37 PM | #60 |
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12-11-2021, 02:51 PM | #61 |
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12-11-2021, 05:00 PM | #62 |
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If he seriously faked a relapse so he could go to AEW then fuck Jeff, fuck Matt, and fuck AEW if they hire him. That Matt tweet just doesn't sit right with me.
I like Jeff a lot, always have, but if it turns out this is what happened then it is some of the most unprofessional conduct I've ever seen and is borderline fraud. |
12-11-2021, 05:13 PM | #63 | |
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It’s also pretty telling the company actually released him. I think there is an awareness about how firing someone can exasperate their personal issues. The company really does give people plenty of chances in these sorts of scenarios. Even if Jeff refused rehab, they could have still sent him home to “think about it.” They’re cutting bait on this guy. |
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12-11-2021, 05:25 PM | #64 |
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I think Impact Wrestling or GCW is the most likely place for Jeff if he decides to keep wrestling at all. AEW should probably stay clear.
A silver-lining to this potentially awful situation is that if Matt wants to work with Jeff, and Tony won’t sign Jeff, maybe Matt leaves to go to wherever Jeff is and we don’t have to see him in AEW anymore? But Matt’s probably making too much bank. |
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12-12-2021, 11:41 PM | #67 | |
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This is a different circumstance than, say, historically rewarding people who have obviously "enhanced" physiques because of Vince's bodybuilding predilictions, but then punishing them when outed or implicated for being on the gas. I would absolutely blame WWE in that instance. |
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12-12-2021, 11:54 PM | #68 | |
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Plus, it would take at least some attention away from FTR vs The Briscoes since they're not involved in that. So, I could see your prediction coming true also. hashtagtomguycottscoops on Twitter!* *No, I didn't actually make that a thing either. Too much like work. |
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12-13-2021, 12:04 AM | #69 | |
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12-13-2021, 11:00 AM | #70 |
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The whole situation is interesting. Think about it. The WWE continues to make fun of his rehab and substance abuse problems. If this was done to any of us, we would be able to threaten to sue or whatever. Jeff could not. So if he did fake this to get released from his contract, then good for him. I know that's the unpopular opinion, but he should be able to work in front of an audience and not have to worry about that shit. He also hasn't been involved in a meaningful storyline since Matt was let go.
With all this said, he didn't relapse when they were stuck in Florida filming shows in the Thunderdome. If he did in fact relapse, and the stories are true, then it might be all the time on the road that is doing him in. I just hope that he gets the help he needs, whether it be physical or mental. |
12-13-2021, 11:14 AM | #71 |
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i think if jeff came to aew it would be limited like matt cardonas was. it will be like 6 matches. as long as matt watches over him he should be ok.
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12-13-2021, 01:19 PM | #72 |
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I guess I’m just pipe-dreaming that AEW would give itself competition by letting Matt Hardy spread greatness to other wrestling promotions.
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12-13-2021, 03:22 PM | #73 |
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Matt and Jeff will probably book another OMEGA show.
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12-13-2021, 03:22 PM | #74 |
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Lol the Broken Hardys are technically in the midst of a nearly 5 year reign as OMEGA Tag Champs from the last event they held.
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12-14-2021, 09:55 AM | #75 |
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Yeah, definitely leaning toward this not being drug-related. They’d at least let it blow over for a bit before doing stuff like this and making jokes about the situation. |
12-14-2021, 12:51 PM | #76 |
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Sean Ropa Sapp stating on Twitter that the rumors of Jeff getting fired on purpose is bs
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12-14-2021, 09:06 PM | #77 |
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I don’t know what happened and I don’t believe anyone who is saying they do, but it’s seeming increasingly likely that Jeff faked a relapse to get out of his contract.
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12-14-2021, 09:07 PM | #78 |
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I’d also like to add that I 100% support a worker lying to an evil corporation for their own personal gain
Workers unite |