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Old 12-04-2021, 11:58 PM   #1
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Alternate "4 Pillars"
If you were going to do the "4 Pillars of AEW" using the talent they currently have, who would you go with?

For me, it'd be MJF, Brian Pillman Jr., Ricky Starks, and Thunder Rosa.

Rosa because I would actually focus on the Women's division more. Starks because he's a better talker than most of Khan's pillars, and a better worker than all of them. I'd tweak his gimmick to where he's not a part of Team Taz, but is instead with a different woman every week. Pillman because he's definitely an up and coming babyface, and has a more fascinating story as it relates to wrestling than Jack Perry. I'd do a traditional build with him. MFJ is mostly there, just have him ditch the edgelord cheap heat and just do dastardly things, instead.

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Old 12-05-2021, 12:22 AM   #2
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If I had to choose alternate pillars and exclude the 4 MJF made, I’d go Thunder Rosa, Jade Cargill, Dante Martin and Wardlow. All of them are clearly being primed for bigger things in years to come.
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Old 12-05-2021, 12:37 AM   #3
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I don’t really like concepts like four pillars, Rushmores, top 5, etc. I think it can change and rotate depending on circumstances. I also don’t think a company should overtly label them as such. But taking the concept from All Japan, I’m going to look at the top four people I think AEW should be building around, and who could mix it up in tremendous matches that generate interest over the longest period of time.

Danielson and Punk are obviously going to be in there. They’re the biggest stars and the best overall workers they have. It then actually gets really tricky for me. I like PAC a lot, but is he really someone you should be building around? Maybe I’d need to see him actually work Danielson and Punk to see if I could watch a billion of those matches over years and years, lol.

MJF should be in there. The kid has it all and he’s ready. It’s just that annoying fourth slot. If he became available, Chas Betts would be in there. Seriously. He’s just so good, and if you get him, strap a rocket onto him. I guess I should say Adam Page, since he’s the champion. He’s got a lot of good points, but I don’t quite feel him up there yet. But I guess if you’re going to commit to a guy, that would be it.

Punk and Page contrast on their completely different attitudes towards life. Punk is strung tight, straight-edge. Page has got this laid back cowboy image.

Punk and Danielson obviously have lots of history and can play off each other a bunch of different ways.

We’re seeing Punk and MJF play out now.

Danielson and MJF would be extremely interesting. It’d be fun to see if MJF could get anger out of Danielson’s gimmick.

Page and MJF are homegrown guys that have basically interacted from the start without ever really going at it one-on-one yet (to my recollection).

I’m also thinking about Adam Cole. I saw something there in him eventually (after initially not really getting it with him). But he may be more of an in-and-out supporting player there.

Yeah, I’d probably go with Danielson, Punk, MJF and Page right now.
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Old 12-05-2021, 12:47 AM   #4
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Avoiding the actual four pillows I would pick Jake Hager who is underutilized greatly (WE THE PEOPLE), Shawn Spears because he can make anyone look better than he is, Big Will Hobbs because he has a ton of charisma and a huge fan base for his work and then finally I'd go with The Icon Matt Hardy because wrestling always works best with legends there to wow the audience with how they can still go, their legendary catchphrases and jaw dropping moves (middle rope leg drop!).
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Avoiding the actual four pillows I would pick Jake Hager who is underutilized greatly (WE THE PEOPLE), Shawn Spears because he can make anyone look better than he is, Big Will Hobbs because he has a ton of charisma and a huge fan base for his work and then finally I'd go with The Icon Matt Hardy because wrestling always works best with legends there to wow the audience with how they can still go, their legendary catchphrases and jaw dropping moves (middle rope leg drop!).
Alternatively you could have Chris Jericho, because he’s such a big star who still has it and has no problem putting people over. Orange Cassidy because he’s such a big merchandise mover. Maybe Chuck Taylor, who hasn’t really had a chance to break away from the Best Friends. I’d like to see his work as a heel. But I agree Matt Hardy should definitely be in there.
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Old 12-06-2021, 11:14 AM   #6
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Jordan is joking. Right?
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Old 12-06-2021, 11:20 AM   #7
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The fact that people need to continually ask if he's joking just means it's working.
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He's obviously joking. He left off Christian Cage.
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The fact that people need to continually ask if he's joking just means it's working.
So 2 things at play here:

1) I am terrible at remembering all but a few posters on the boards, so if it’s a regular thing/gimmick it will have totally gone over my head

2) I don’t want to find myself in a “Noid Situation” where I take it at face value, react with a 400-word post and then have to reassert my position with a 600-word post in an effort to “save face”. #LoveYouNoid
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So 2 things at play here:

1) I am terrible at remembering all but a few posters on the boards, so if it’s a regular thing/gimmick it will have totally gone over my head

2) I don’t want to find myself in a “Noid Situation” where I take it at face value, react with a 400-word post and then have to reassert my position with a 600-word post in an effort to “save face”. #LoveYouNoid
I think people overestimate how many people pay attention to who is posting what at what time.

And, for the record, my reaction to the post I took at face value (because I didn’t pay attention to what posters posted it) was one sentence. My retorts since then may have been 400 words, but saving face would have been to say what people wanted me to say. But god am I over.
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