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Old 10-17-2018, 03:35 PM   #1
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R-Truth's standing in WWE
R-Truth has been in this company for a while. And never has he been a Main Event player. I think it speaks volumes that Vince McMahon came out to R-Truth's mini show and danced with him.

Is R-Truth the most over guy backstage in this company? I really think he is. Vince has to love this guy to do that dance bullshit on R-Truth's show.

Ron Killings might be the most over guy in this company.

It dont matter who did what to who at this point. The fact is, we went to war. And now there aint no going back. It's what war is you know? Once you're in it, you're in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie, but we gotta fight!
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Old 10-17-2018, 03:37 PM   #2
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And by the way, I dont mind this. I want Ron Killings to have a massive push in the Main Event. This guy is in incredible shape. He's a great worker. He deserves it.
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He had a main event push once against Cena at Capitol Punishment in 2011 or whenever.
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Vince loves shucking and jiving African Americans, just like he loves evil foreigners. Booker T is STILL the only 100% African American to win a singles world title in Vince's company, unless you count Lashleys ECW Title as a world title run, which you shouldnt cause WWE doesnt.

R-Truth fits the role Vince has in his head of a stereotypical black man character. As long as Truth accepts that role and doesn't make waves, he has a job.
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I think Nakamura and the US title is perfect for R-Truth to take. I'm not saying he takes it for ever, but Nakamura can put him over big time right now and then take the title back in a 3-4 month feud. It's perfect and they wont do it.
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Vince loves shucking and jiving African Americans, just like he loves evil foreigners. Booker T is STILL the only 100% African American to win a singles world title in Vince's company, unless you count Lashleys ECW Title as a world title run, which you shouldnt cause WWE doesnt.

R-Truth fits the role Vince has in his head of a stereotypical black man character. As long as Truth accepts that role and doesn't make waves, he has a job.
Think Booker T is 1/1024th white. Therefore is white.... if I am using my formula correctly.
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R-Truth has been in this company for a while. And never has he been a Main Event player. I think it speaks volumes that Vince McMahon came out to R-Truth's mini show and danced with him.

Is R-Truth the most over guy backstage in this company? I really think he is. Vince has to love this guy to do that dance bullshit on R-Truth's show.

Ron Killings might be the most over guy in this company.
I think he does have a good relationship with Vince.

Then again, I am basing that on the fact R-Truth has been with the company for a decade now and not really done that much for someone that's been there that long.

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But really, I think they are really good friends.
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Mark Henry won a world title right? So him and Booker the only two African Americans to win a company acknowledged world title?
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Mark Henry won a world title right? So him and Booker the only two African Americans to win a company acknowledged world title?
Correct, that was my fault, forgot about Mark. He actually had a good run as champ too.
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Mark Henry won a world title right? So him and Booker the only two African Americans to win a company acknowledged world title?
The Rock and Bobby Lashley as well. The ECW World Title was considered a World Title, regardless of what we think, until Morrison got it in 2007. They put Bobby Lashley in at least one match that was between former World Champions (I believe it was a five-way between him John Cena, Mick Foley, Booker and Randy Orton -- I think it was at Night of Champions actually).
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Truth has been really great in a comedy role while also avoiding the same pitfalls other comedy characters have dealt with in the WWE. Santino was arguably the best comedy character WWE had since the Attitude Era ended but his shtick would get old every so often because he was almost constantly on tv. Same for the New Day and their gags getting stale after a while due to their weekly presence.

Truth's shtick has managed to stay refreshing because he rarely stays on tv for long stretches of time.
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R-Truth is pretty fucking annoying. Good on the guy for having a career as long as he has. Who would have thought fucking K-Kwik would go on to become a guy they would eventually put in their token black Hall of Fame spot one day? Or work The Rock's first match back with the company in 7 years, for that matter?

I've taken up for R-Truth in the past. He's never had a great match or cut a truly great promo. He's been solid in the ring at times and is a good little soldier. As a babyface he does the parrot stuff that they think is great for warming up crowds. He was actually an interesting heel in 2011. At the time I thought they weren't sure how long they could get out of him, but here he is, another 7 years later.

The dude is 46 years old. He's almost as old as Triple H. He still looks phenomenal. For a guy with problems in his past, he's clearly overcome a lot and worked hard. I understand why they keep a spot for him. And you can tell by the "comedy" they have him do (fucking Pretty Ricky and the current shitty dance break stuff), his outmoded sense of humor pops Vince. He's a reminder of the longevity you can have by being a cog in the machine. Plus the dude has 5 kids, so Vince probably thinks of him as a virile young man.

That being said -- I have absolutely no interest or desire in seeing much more of the guy or watching a collection of the dude's work. He's a good story and maybe I'd actually check out a documentary on the guy's life and struggles. So far it seems to be a happy story.
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The Rock and Bobby Lashley as well. The ECW World Title was considered a World Title, regardless of what we think, until Morrison got it in 2007. They put Bobby Lashley in at least one match that was between former World Champions (I believe it was a five-way between him John Cena, Mick Foley, Booker and Randy Orton -- I think it was at Night of Champions actually).
At the time they acted like the ECW Title was a world title, but not after that 6 or so months. Chavo entered the Royal Rumble for a shot at a World Title while he was ECW Champ, hence not a World Title.

Rock is only half African American, and WWE talks up his Samoan lineage.
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At the time they acted like the ECW Title was a world title, but not after that 6 or so months. Chavo entered the Royal Rumble for a shot at a World Title while he was ECW Champ, hence not a World Title.

Rock is only half African American, and WWE talks up his Samoan lineage.
No, they didn't. That's exactly what I said. But at the time Lashley held it, he was a World Champion. They also call Big Show a 7-time World Champion, which is two WCW Titles, two WWE Titles, two World Heavyweight Titles and an ECW World Title.

Rock's dad is African-American. Therefore he is both black and Samoan.
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No, they didn't. That's exactly what I said. But at the time Lashley held it, he was a World Champion. They also call Big Show a 7-time World Champion, which is two WCW Titles, two WWE Titles, two World Heavyweight Titles and an ECW World Title.

Rock's dad is African-American. Therefore he is both black and Samoan.
I know that, you know that, and it's not a secret, but the story is always how he is a member of the great Samoans. I don't think WWE has ever even shown clips of Rock like they do for Ron Simmons, Mark Henry, Ernie Ladd, etc when doing black history month pieces.
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The whole roster, as well as the referees and other staff, all walked out during an episode of Raw that time in 2011 because R-Truth (and The Miz) were causing too much trouble. Or something like that.
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The whole roster, as well as the referees and other staff, all walked out during an episode of Raw that time in 2011 because R-Truth (and The Miz) were causing too much trouble. Or something like that.
more info please? I never heard this.
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If you have a spare fifteen minutes to kill, then these videos show you want happened.





If not, then I'll put it all in a nutshell for you:

The Miz & R-Truth were going around attacking everyone which left the WWE roster, referees, announcers, cameramen and photographers, all scared to come to work.

They all submitted a vote of "No Confidence" in Triple H as COO and then they all walked out on him at the end of an episode of Raw.
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But Booker T had nothing to do with it. He just had to go to the bathroom.
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Old 10-18-2018, 10:33 PM   #25
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If you have a spare fifteen minutes to kill, then these videos show you want happened.





If not, then I'll put it all in a nutshell for you:

The Miz & R-Truth were going around attacking everyone which left the WWE roster, referees, announcers, cameramen and photographers, all scared to come to work.

They all submitted a vote of "No Confidence" in Triple H as COO and then they all walked out on him at the end of an episode of Raw.
I can't blame the average fan for not remembering that. Awesome Truth were not a long-lived team. About the only thing I remember about them without a refresher course is their theme, "U Suck".
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I know that, you know that, and it's not a secret, but the story is always how he is a member of the great Samoans. I don't think WWE has ever even shown clips of Rock like they do for Ron Simmons, Mark Henry, Ernie Ladd, etc when doing black history month pieces.
I'm sure they have. I was just pointing it out because Rock is a black guy that has been a recognized World Champ. Rock, Booker T, Lashley and Henry are the four guys.
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If only the WWE would have kept recognizing the ECW Championship as a world title.
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At the time they acted like the ECW Title was a world title, but not after that 6 or so months. Chavo entered the Royal Rumble for a shot at a World Title while he was ECW Champ, hence not a World Title.

Rock is only half African American, and WWE talks up his Samoan lineage.
Chavo Guerrero had already qualified for the Royal Rumble that year. His intent was to eliminated Punk and his subsequent chance at a championship match at Wrestlemania.
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Lol, remember when Undertaker won the 2007 Royal Rumble and they treated the ECW Title as a serious possibility for contention? They didn't do that after that.
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Chavo Guerrero had already qualified for the Royal Rumble that year. His intent was to eliminated Punk and his subsequent chance at a championship match at Wrestlemania.
And then he lost the ECW Championship to Kane in 8 seconds at WM XXIV, the fastest WM match in history until Rock defeated Erick Rowan in 6 seconds 8 years later at WM XXXII.
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Lol, remember when Undertaker won the 2007 Royal Rumble and they treated the ECW Title as a serious possibility for contention? They didn't do that after that.
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No, they didn't. That's exactly what I said. But at the time Lashley held it, he was a World Champion. They also call Big Show a 7-time World Champion, which is two WCW Titles, two WWE Titles, two World Heavyweight Titles and an ECW World Title.

Rock's dad is African-American. Therefore he is both black and Samoan.

I am aware of that, Noid.
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And then he lost the ECW Championship to Kane in 8 seconds at WM XXIV, the fastest WM match in history until Rock defeated Erick Rowan in 6 seconds 8 years later at WM XXXII.
Yeah! Kane seemed quite elated to win the strap. It was quite a substantial gap in-between his two major championship victories.
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Interestingly, PWI recognized the ECW Championship as a "world title" only from July 6, 1999 to April 11, 2001. Also, they haven't recognized the Impact World Championship as such since June 29, 2015.
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I am aware of that, Noid.
I was talking to xrod, Reverend David.
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Interestingly, PWI recognized the ECW Championship as a "world title" only from July 6, 1999 to April 11, 2001. Also, they haven't recognized the Impact World Championship as such since June 29, 2015.
I am aware of that, Dave.
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I was talking to xrod, Reverend David.
How many posts ago, Noid?
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I am aware of that, Dave.
I was not aware of that, Noid.
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Yeah! Kane seemed quite elated to win the strap. It was quite a substantial gap in-between his two major championship victories.
Yeah. At like Money in the Bank 2010, he cashed in the same night he won the 💼 on Rey Mysterio to win the World Heavyweight Championship. Think he was the first to win it and cash in on the same night.

The next SD! was the first where he cut one of those intense promos with the creepy lighting ambience and music.
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If only the WWE would have kept recognizing the ECW Championship as a world title.
I've always thought it was stupid to have Christian drop the title on the very last episode of ECW. What good is being the last ever champion if that reign is your first and was only two minutes long?

It achieved absolutely nothing.

Ezekiel Jackson did absolutely nothing on Raw after ECW and then once he was traded to SmackDown, he was part of The Corre but even as a part of that he didn't do much and then he won the Intercontinental Championship but only held it for 51 days, during which he only defended it twice.

After that, he became a fully fledged jobber.
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